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    IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #67




    Police ID bodies of Indiana girls

    Two bodies found along a northern Indiana stream are those of two teenage girls who went missing Mondayand their deaths are being investigated as homicides, authorities said on Wednesday.

    State Police Sgt. Kim Riley said autopsies performed Wednesday determined that the bodies are those of Liberty German, 14, and Abigail Williams, 13, both of Delphi.

    Their bodies were found Tuesday afternoon along Deer Creek near Delphi, about 60 miles northwest of Indianapolis. Police said the girls’ bodies were about three-quarters of a mile from an abandoned railroad bridge where they were dropped off Monday to go hiking.

    ISP page dedicated to the investigation

    Anyone with information about this case, no matter how insignificant, is encouraged to call the Delphi Homicide Investigation Tip Line at (844) 459-5786.

    Information can also be reported by calling the Indiana State Police at
    (800) 382-7537, or the Carroll County Sheriff’s Department at (765) 564-2413.

    Information can also be emailed to
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    video of press conference of 02/22/17: https://www.facebook.com/NewsCenter1...4728963476130/

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    IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #67

    Suspect composite plus description. Maybe a good place to start the new thread?
    https://www.google.com/amp/fox59.com...-williams/amp/
    Last edited by ezrah; 08-31-2017 at 02:44 PM.
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    http://www.jconline.com/story/news/2...nts/611667001/

    "Adams said he hopes Delphi will become a model for trail safety in other communities. But as of now, officials still are finalizing the finer details of the project, such as the most effective lighting and camera systems."
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    We still have our orange porch lights on every night for these girls. Crazy that there's not been significant movement.

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    Blue eyes but more or less meets the description. Look at those cheek indentations

    http://www.wthr.com/article/police-b...n-indianapolis

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    I'm so worried that this won't be solved. I always think I'll see headlines of an arrest being made but everything is quiet.

    Perhaps a sketch with no hat would help? The sketch is great but I'm grasping at straws and wondering if he normally doesn't wear one and it would help identify him if an additional sketch was done. Though all witnesses may have only seen him in the hat so his hairline would be a guess. Could do more harm than good. Just frustrating to know that Libby did all she could to ensure justice and this monster is still free

    I stand by believing that new details are needed to grab headlines and get this fantastic sketch circulated by the media.

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    Quote Originally Posted by audge86 View Post
    I'm so worried that this won't be solved. I always think I'll see headlines of an arrest being made but everything is quiet.

    Perhaps a sketch with no hat would help? The sketch is great but I'm grasping at straws and wondering if he normally doesn't wear one and it would help identify him if an additional sketch was done. Though all witnesses may have only seen him in the hat so his hairline would be a guess. Could do more harm than good. Just frustrating to know that Libby did all she could to ensure justice and this monster is still free

    I stand by believing that new details are needed to grab headlines and get this fantastic sketch circulated by the media.
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    Thank you. I haven't followed closely for a while because this case is hard. I'm playing a bit of catch up here.

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    Just thought I'd move this over here, along with the additions that were suggested.

    Known Facts

    The girls were on the bridge
    BG was on the bridge
    The girls were dropped off on the north side of the creek/trail
    The bodies were found on the north side of the creek
    They were found about 50' from the creek south of the cemetery
    The girls were dropped off by LG's sister by 1:45 (I'm not sure if the 1:45 time has been confirmed)
    DG tried to reach them around 3:00 without any luck
    Other people were on the trail and bridge close to that time period
    There is a video (and we have stills from it) of the "main" suspect
    There is a recording of the suspect's voice
    There is a sketch of the suspect which is a composite of information from witnesses
    The bodies were found on RL's property
    RL is not a suspect
    Libby was taking pictures
    There was no school that day
    The weather that day was seasonally mild
    Within walking distance of the crime scene, there is a meat packing plant, a quarry, a recycling station, several homes (some empty, some not), a few roads (from gravel to highways)
    Both girls died
    The photos and video stills show they were on the south end of the bridge at one point
    They crossed the creek twice one way or another
    There were some footprints that led to the bodies.
    Libby's phone was recovered
    The crime scene was taped off
    Nothing other than the entrance to the bridge was taped off on the south side of the creek (possibly a small area surrounding the entrance to the bridge)
    RLs property, house, outbuildings, white truck were searched
    Property across from RLs house where grain bin is located also searched
    Creek flow was 70% above normal
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    I'm sorry if this was already discussed but a few thoughts.

    The level of detail and the fact that police trusted this witness so much leads me to believe that the witness didn't just see him. The witness had some sort of interaction. Maybe in a store or a conversation as he looked for directions. If I passed someone on a trail, I wouldn't even be able to exclude an eye colour never mind give these details.

    Was an fbi profile ever released?


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    Phew! Thought we were closed down for real for a minute there until I saw this new thread opened up. Am getting frustrated and rather discouraged nothing visible happening here and the sketch didn't seem to cause much of a stir. We need these images to go viral, but how ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by audge86 View Post
    I'm sorry if this was already discussed but a few thoughts.

    The level of detail and the fact that police trusted this witness so much leads me to believe that the witness didn't just see him. The witness had some sort of interaction. Maybe in a store or a conversation as he looked for directions. If I passed someone on a trail, I wouldn't even be able to exclude an eye colour never mind give these details.

    Was an fbi profile ever released?
    Agree and no profile has been released to public.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ember123 View Post
    Phew! Thought we were closed down for real for a minute there until I saw this new thread opened up. Am getting frustrated and rather discouraged nothing visible happening here and the sketch didn't seem to cause much of a stir. We need these images to go viral, but how ?
    IMO LE FBI working diligently behind public view and working through all tips generated by the composite sketch. JMHO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Confusion View Post
    Just thought I'd move this over here, along with the additions that were suggested.

    Known Facts

    The girls were on the bridge
    BG was on the bridge
    The girls were dropped off on the north side of the creek/trail
    The bodies were found on the north side of the creek
    They were found about 50' from the creek south of the cemetery
    The girls were dropped off by LG's sister by 1:45 (I'm not sure if the 1:45 time has been confirmed)
    DG tried to reach them around 3:00 without any luck
    Other people were on the trail and bridge close to that time period
    There is a video (and we have stills from it) of the "main" suspect
    There is a recording of the suspect's voice
    There is a sketch of the suspect which is a composite of information from witnesses
    The bodies were found on RL's property
    RL is not a suspect
    Libby was taking pictures
    There was no school that day
    The weather that day was seasonally mild
    Within walking distance of the crime scene, there is a meat packing plant, a quarry, a recycling station, several homes (some empty, some not), a few roads (from gravel to highways)
    Both girls died
    The photos and video stills show they were on the south end of the bridge at one point
    They crossed the creek twice one way or another
    There were some footprints that led to the bodies.
    Libby's phone was recovered
    The crime scene was taped off
    Nothing other than the entrance to the bridge was taped off on the south side of the creek (possibly a small area surrounding the entrance to the bridge)
    RLs property, house, outbuildings, white truck were searched
    Property across from RLs house where grain bin is located also searched
    Creek flow was 70% above normal
    Thank you!!
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    My suspicion is that this won't be solved soon. Either something will happen -- someone discovers the man has a dark private life, or has trophies of kills and crimes -- or he gets caught in a future crime and from DNA gets connected to the Delphi double murder and to other crimes. I expect he will not be transparent or cooperative with authority when he is caught. In his own mind silence and obfuscation will be both his defense and his last attacks at his victims and to authority. He probably will only admit something when confronted by undeniable evidence, and then it will be that thing only and his confession or acknowledgement of that thing will be partial. If he can frustrate people forever by taking full disclosure to the grave, he'll do that.

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