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  1. #61
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    Barbara Bruno?

    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/11582/2



    The recons of Haymarket Jane Doe are all over the map, but she appears to have a weak chin and square jaws as does Barbara.

    The height, age, and timeframe are all good.
    Last edited by CarlK90245; 10-12-2012 at 11:52 PM.

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    CarlK, I can't put my finger on it, but there is something about this match that I really like. I hope you call it in.

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    I used to bartend at the Embassy Suites in the mid-90's, and there was a woman who worked there briefly who looked spot-on like Barbara. She also was from New York. But she was only in her early 20's at the time. She was definitely too young to have been Barbara.

    But when I saw that photo for a second, I said to myself - "I know that girl!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarlK90245 View Post
    Barbara Bruno?

    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/11582/2



    The recons of Haymarket Jane Doe are all over the map, but she appears to have a weak chin and square jaws as does Barbara.

    The height, age, and timeframe are all good.
    I received a reply from Dr. Shane Chittenden (Local ME Contact for Haymarket Jane Doe)

    I have forwarded your e-mail to Mrs. Baldwin and Yoakam. Please send any additional correspondence to either one who returns your e-mail.

    Dr. S. Chittenden
    Last edited by CarlK90245; 10-12-2012 at 11:52 PM.

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    Received a reply from Paul Yoakam of the Virginia Dept of Health (VDH)

    On our unidentified we have STR & mtDNA in the DNA Data Banks, we also have dental for comparison. The Bruno girl’s family DNA has been submitted to UNT for analysis. So it’s a waiting game until those profiles are completed. paul

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    Carl,

    I should have told you to ask Paul Yoakam if they know anymore about Cynthia Gastelle http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/...e_cynthia.html

    or
    Marcia Remick
    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/...ck_marcia.html

    I am wondering if they were able to obtain DNA sample from their families??

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaddylex View Post
    Carl,

    I should have told you to ask Paul Yoakam if they know anymore about Cynthia Gastelle http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/...e_cynthia.html

    or
    Marcia Remick
    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/...ck_marcia.html

    I am wondering if they were able to obtain DNA sample from their families??
    I just posed that question in a reply to his e-mail.

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    Thanks this is another one of my pet cases I would love to see solved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarlK90245 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by chaddylex View Post
    Carl,

    I should have told you to ask Paul Yoakam if they know anymore about Cynthia Gastelle http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/...e_cynthia.html

    or
    Marcia Remick
    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/...ck_marcia.html

    I am wondering if they were able to obtain DNA sample from their families??
    I just posed that question in a reply to his e-mail.
    Paul Yoakum replied as follows:
    Carl,
    There is DNA on both in the system, State and National. paul
    The implication is that these two are rule-outs by default.

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    Good thanks... I should see if both their profiles say they have DNA in the system.


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    I received an email from NamUs that they added another exclusion to the rule out list yesterday... The new names I see added to the rule out list since last October are:

    Charlotte Loomis, Missing from New Jersey. https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/6309/0/

    Evangeline Silva, Missing from CA https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/12864/0/

    I am glad to know they are staying active on this case!!

    Cynthia Gastelle, Marcia Remick and now Barbara Bruno are still not on the rule out list!

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    This girl is not on the rule out list, she fits the time frame, and the age. The height is off (but hello, I have seen that be off a lot) and the UID was found with a size 5 shoe, Lorraine had a size 8 1/2 shoe. Loraine has DNA in the system (not sure which system). I am going to email Paul Yoakum to see what he says...

    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/..._lorraine.html

    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/4585/0/

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    Could someone please submit Dena Viola Mchan its worth a shot! Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaddylex View Post
    This girl is not on the rule out list, she fits the time frame, and the age. The height is off (but hello, I have seen that be off a lot) and the UID was found with a size 5 shoe, Lorraine had a size 8 1/2 shoe. Loraine has DNA in the system (not sure which system). I am going to email Paul Yoakum to see what he says...

    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/..._lorraine.html

    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/4585/0/
    I received an email back from Paul Yoakum a few weeks ago and forgot to post. I know Carl asked him about Marcia Remick and Cynthia Gastelle, but I wanted to know what kind of DNA they had on them along with the UID. I also asked about Lorraine Herbster. Here is the response I got back:

    We have nuclear & mt DNA on our unidentified which are in Va & National DNA Data Banks; also all three MP girls have mt DNA with National. We did family DNA for Cynthia Gastelle for Maryland. paul

    I also got an email from NamUs today saying they added another exclusion. I am wondering why none of these girls are on the rule out list if they were already ruled out with DNA? I need to figure out exactly who was just added to the rule out list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaddylex View Post
    I also got an email from NamUs today saying they added another exclusion. I am wondering why none of these girls are on the rule out list if they were already ruled out with DNA? I need to figure out exactly who was just added to the rule out list.
    CODIS rule-outs by default are not usually posted to the NamUs exclusion lists. The NamUs lists usually only reflect the results of work done within the NamUs system.

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