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    sure seems like locals found all of the evidence...what was law enforcement doing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tssiemer View Post
    I officially despise the word "panties" now.


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    I see what your saying. "Panties" has an underlying sexual connotation to it while "underwear" has a more dignified tone to it. Maybe others disagree.

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    Speculation: May have been more than one person in vehicle with H. One driving & the other removing and discarding H's clothing

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    Quote Originally Posted by turaj View Post
    this may be more minutia but the mother's testimony for me was extraordinary....the fact that she could go into a 20 year old woman's room and know which underwear she was wearing? And also by process of elimination know what shoes??? Did anyone else find that odd? It is not that I don't believe her...but seems so odd.
    I have small children so I could tell you these things using the same process but I'm not sure that when I was 20 my own mom could do the same. 20 year old (especially) girls share clothes, live out of bags and/or cars and some closets look like a tornado came through.

    I guess it depends on how organized and clean Holly was and how much contact her mom had with her clothes and shoes. If that makes any sense at all, lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by turaj View Post
    this may be more minutia but the mother's testimony for me was extraordinary....the fact that she could go into a 20 year old woman's room and know which underwear she was wearing? And also by process of elimination know what shoes??? Did anyone else find that odd? It is not that I don't believe her...but seems so odd.
    Not just you, I thought it incredibly weird too. I have a 10 year old and still wouldn't be able to tell you, let alone a grown adult.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lstiff View Post
    I have small children so I could tell you these things using the same process but I'm not sure that when I was 20 my own mom could do the same. 20 year old (especially) girls share clothes, live out of bags and/or cars and some closets look like a tornado came through.

    I guess it depends on how organized and clean Holly was and how much contact her mom had with her clothes and shoes. If that makes any sense at all, lol

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    trying to imagine me going into my 20 year old daughter's room and knowing exactly which underware she had on that day...to say nothing of the shoes? Of course I did not pack her lunch either. I assume Holly had "panties" of many colors so it really is unusual. And she was certain..no waivering on that one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lstiff View Post
    I have small children so I could tell you these things using the same process but I'm not sure that when I was 20 my own mom could do the same. 20 year old (especially) girls share clothes, live out of bags and/or cars and some closets look like a tornado came through.

    I guess it depends on how organized and clean Holly was and how much contact her mom had with her clothes and shoes. If that makes any sense at all, lol

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    Mother may have enjoyed shopping for her daughter as well as for herself. Mother & daughter may also have been the same size (easier to shop for).

    Mother is a teacher & prob very organized as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckieD View Post
    Not just you, I thought it incredibly weird too. I have a 10 year old and still wouldn't be able to tell you, let alone a grown adult.
    hey most days I can't tell you what I have on!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by turaj View Post
    this may be more minutia but the mother's testimony for me was extraordinary....the fact that she could go into a 20 year old woman's room and know which underwear she was wearing? And also by process of elimination know what shoes??? Did anyone else find that odd? It is not that I don't believe her...but seems so odd.
    I found it odd mainly because my girls were all doing their own laundry before they graduated HS. Perhaps Holly always wore them in matching sets and didn't own a dozen+ pair of shoes. idk
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    Quote Originally Posted by epiphany View Post
    Mother may have enjoyed shopping for her daughter as well as for herself. Mother & daughter may also have been the same size.

    Mother is a teacher & prob very organized as well
    there is no question they were close...and organized but this is well beyond that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turaj View Post
    there is no question they were close...and organized but this is well beyond that.
    I would have been able to do the same when my own daughter was around the same age, so not IMO

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    as I said it is minutia...so many different things in this case...I am so struck by the locals doing most of the work here in terms of finding things and the family actually going out and interviewing these people including the defendant...that seems very dangerous under the circumstances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by epiphany View Post
    I would have been able to do the same when my own daughter was around the same age, so not IMO
    Holly was 20!!

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