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    "It's unbelievable that people can disappear off the face of the Earth without a trace when they find dinosaur bones and identify them." ~ John Lyon

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    From the link in the first post:

    Lloyd Lee Welch Jr. has been sentenced for the murders of Katherine and Sheila Lyon in Bedford County.
    Welch, 60, received two 48-year sentences for the two counts of first degree felony murder he was facing. The sentences will be served concurrently.
    Katherine and Sheila Lyon, ages 10 and 12, were last seen at the Wheaton Plaza shopping center near their home in Kensington, Maryland on March 25, 1975. Family members at the time said the girls had traveled to the nearby mall to window shop.
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    Great article from the Washington Post




    At times patient, at times pushing, the cold-case detectives again went at Lloyd Welch inside the small interrogation room.
    It was their 11th session with the longtime sex offender, who held answers to questions that had haunted a Maryland family for more than 40 years: What happened to Katherine and Sheila — the Lyon sisters — after they vanished from a shopping mall in 1975?
    “I know I should be worried about the girls, the family, puttin’ it to rest and stuff like that,” Welch told the detectives. “But you also got to look at it, I’m a survivor. I’ve lived on the street. And like I told you, I’ve also gotta think of me. What’s going to happen to me?"
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    Happy to see a resolution for the family but without any real solid evidence or remains I feel like we'll never know for certain what really happened to them. He's certainly a *******, but is he THE *******? And was his uncle involved?

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    The uncle lent his house for this crime. His wife lied for him. I would have to say he was involved.

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    There are still too many unanswered questions to consider this case "solved." It feels more like it is been neatly "packaged" and "covered up" to me. Where are the facts? What do we have now that we didn't have 40 years ago? One known liar who was already in prison, now taking the wrap for a murder (or is it 2 murders?) without identifying any of the other people involved or verification that either of the girls are actually dead. And to top it all, LLW still denies any killing; he only says he "took them from the shopping center." Even more confusing, he only addresses knowledge of one girl being dead. Is LLW on his way back to Delaware now?

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    IMO, Bedford did its job. It stopped the investigation, but did it really solve the case? Not in my opinion.

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    That WaPo story nicely blows by the Long Haired Man sketch and how LE failed to make the connection.

    When I saw the case against Lloyd was going to end in a plea deal, this is precisely what I was afraid of. I have to agree with Schipperke.
    What do we think? What do we know? What can we prove?

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    I wish this interview was longer, but the prosecutor from Maryland shared some details and about the strategy of the plea deal. Some of it was jurisdictional.



    Montgomery Co. Prosecutor John McCarthy says the sisters were likely taken into Prince Georges County within 10 minutes of their abduction, which would be the direction of Richard Allen Welch's house.

    http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/lo...444228093.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schipperke View Post
    IMO, Bedford did its job. It stopped the investigation, but did it really solve the case? Not in my opinion.
    The frustration here is that many questions may never be answered. LLW is a liar and a psychopath who may have only delivered his version of the abduction and murders. While a statement from him may have some truth it, there is no chance it is 100% accurate.

    What are LLW's motivations to lie?

    He may have wanted to settle a grudge with his uncle or father. These men may be 100% innocent, but he wanted to screw them and their reputations (the father is deceased). LLW also claimed at one point his deceased girlfriend or wife babysat the girls while in captivity. IMO it is hard to believe a single person was able to kidnap both girls.

    I think LE is confidant that LLW was involved, regardless of how he may have distorted the truth for whatever reasons.

    It was said at sometime that LLW revealed details not known to the public. I hope at least this much will be revealed so any doubts can be put to rest. I am sure some of the details are very ugly and would not be fair to the family to release.


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    LLW claimed to have seen someone else sexually assault one of the sisters and murder Kate Lyon. LLW claimed to have taken the body of Kate to Taylor Mountain for burial.

    This newscast seems to imply that it was established that Katherine was burned and buried near Bedford, VA and the resting place of Sheila's body is unknown.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/videos/mans-...ssing-sisters/

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    Quote Originally Posted by WaynezWorld View Post
    The frustration here is that many questions may never be answered. LLW is a liar and a psychopath who may have only delivered his version of the abduction and murders. While a statement from him may have some truth it, there is no chance it is 100% accurate.

    What are LLW's motivations to lie?

    He may have wanted to settle a grudge with his uncle or father. These men may be 100% innocent, but he wanted to screw them and their reputations (the father is deceased). LLW also claimed at one point his deceased girlfriend or wife babysat the girls while in captivity. IMO it is hard to believe a single person was able to kidnap both girls.

    I think LE is confidant that LLW was involved, regardless of how he may have distorted the truth for whatever reasons.

    It was said at sometime that LLW revealed details not known to the public. I hope at least this much will be revealed so any doubts can be put to rest. I am sure some of the details are very ugly and would not be fair to the family to release.
    I agree with almost everything above.

    But I don't agree that one person couldn't kidnap 2 young girls. We have seen it happen way too often. Especially 2 girls who love each other. The monster just needs to put a knife at one sister's throat, or a gun to one sister's head, and the other will be totally compliant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by katydid23 View Post
    I agree with almost everything above.

    But I don't agree that one person couldn't kidnap 2 young girls. We have seen it happen way too often. Especially 2 girls who love each other. The monster just needs to put a knife at one sister's throat, or a gun to one sister's head, and the other will be totally compliant.
    Very sad to visualize but you may have a point. These girls were basically defenseless and that makes it an even greater crime.

    I am still very curious about the statements made by Teddy Welch and Wes Justice that implicated the father and the uncle.

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    I am still curious about a connection to L W Kraisel and the molestation of TTW's sons which was adjudicated just about the time LLW's sketch was discovered. This was covered in Websleuths after a posted comment made by TTW's late wife Stacy Heller Welch. If Stacy was aware of all the "skeletons," TTW Jr. must know them as well. I feel certain that there is still more knowledge within the family.

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    http://wset.com/news/local/lyon-sist...tion-continues There are still so many questions to be answered, including what happened in the Evidence Room in Bedford to the tooth that was supposed to prove one of the girls (at least) was burned on the mountain. This case has not been solved; it continues to be "covered." I know how painful this had been all these years for the family, but I find it hard to believe that they can be completely satisfied with the outcome at this point. One participant has been identified, but you and bet there are lots of other people around who have information they could share, but won't. Why? Either they have something to hide or they have something to fear! The dead can't hurt you, only the living can! IMO, if you believe that all the other "guilty" are now dead, then you must believe that this case has other connections to things that living people want to remain hidden. IMO, the only people who lived through this ordeal in 1975 who could possibly be content with this "solution" are knowledgeable of and connected to, the truth or involved in something else connected some way.

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