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    Trump's lawyers

    Trump's lawyers were audibly discussing his case at a public restaurant with a New York Times reporter, Kenneth Vogel, sitting at the next table. The reporter easily overheard their conversation - about Trump, about Jared - which apparently went into some very personal and sensitive areas.

    "As Vogel sat there alone, taking notes on his iPhone, Cobb and Dowd continued to discuss the case in a way that was “easily audible” to adjacent tables and passersby.

    According to Vogel, Cobb was complaining that White House lawyer Donald F. McGahn II has not been forthcoming with information requested by the special counsel in charge of the investigation, suggesting McGahn had “a couple documents locked in a safe” and that there is a “McGahn spy” within the Trump legal team.

    “It’s puzzling they would be so indiscreet,” Vogel said."

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-law...152953582.html


    Wow. Trump sure has had his problems with his various lawyers! Hard to believe these experienced professionals would act in this manner. What were they thinking? Might it have been a "two martini lunch"?

    The restaurant is located next door to the D.C. office of the newspaper.

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    Was it a liquid lunch?

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    I might have cackled and rubbed my hands together in glee when I read this article this morning.

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    I think who Trump has hired for legal counsel is the single most important indicator to prove his poor judgement and to a lesser extent indicative of how toxic he is as a client - qualified, competent, well-reputed attorneys just don't want to be associated with him. (Don't know if this has been posted, but years ago Trump's lawyers refused to meet with him alone because he lied so frequently. They teamed up so there would be witnesses to what Trump stated in meetings.)

    It's very telling, imo, that Kushner has legal representation with a better reputation than the POTUS.

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    Informative article highlighting just how problematic Dowd-Cobb's lunch conversation may be, including the rules that exist between a private attorney and one working for the government:

    But these disclosures might also be problematic if no reporters had been present. There are certainly legitimate areas of coordination and information sharing between lawyers for the White House and personal lawyers for its occupant. However, each White House disclosure must be justifiable under the rules. What benefits the Office of the President for the president’s private attorney to hear about divergences McGahn and Cobb over legal strategy? There may be a good answer, but that is a question that must be answered as a predicate to disclosure.
    https://www.justsecurity.org/45142/c...d-round-world/

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    At the end of the above linked article the author tells an amusing story about a lawyer who prepped his witness for trial the next day at a pub. Turned out the opposing side was also at the bar that night. The story goes on to tell about he lawyer pleading "the drinking privilege" in court.

    Is this a hint to let us know that one or both of these attorneys are known lunchtime drinkers?
    Because remember the lawyer who email responded to a critic at 10:00PM with vulgarities and threats? He supposedly had a history of drinking problems.

    It must be really bad to be president and not be able to get yourself a decent attorney!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlwaysShocked View Post
    At the end of the above linked article the author tells an amusing story about a lawyer who prepped his witness for trial the next day at a pub. Turned out the opposing side was also at the bar that night. The story goes on to tell about he lawyer pleading "the drinking privilege" in court.

    Is this a hint to let us know that one or both of these attorneys are known lunchtime drinkers?
    Because remember the lawyer who email responded to a critic at 10:00PM with vulgarities and threats? He supposedly had a history of drinking problems.

    It must be really bad to be president and not be able to get yourself a decent attorney!
    Supposedly he can't get top legal talent because of his nonpayment of bills in the past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simba16 View Post
    Supposedly he can't get top legal talent because of his nonpayment of bills in the past.
    And his habit of lying about what was said in meetings with him.

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    "The Republican National Committee is using a pool of money stockpiled for election recounts and other legal matters to pay for President Trump's ballooning lawyer fees related to the multiple Russia investigations, directing more than $427,000 so far to lawyers representing him and his eldest son, party officials confirmed Tuesday."


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.f28e5041689a

    It is not Trump who is paying them.

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    "A partner at the law firm Cobb worked for before joining the White House,*Hogan Lovells,*told Business Insider on Thursday that "the words 'clown' and 'buffoon' were bandied about"*among the firm's lawyers when they spoke about Cobb before he left for the White House.*

    "He*was supposed to be the DC insider who was going to help Trump get away from the Kasowitz mistake,"said the former partner, who requested anonymity to discuss the subject freely. Trump's former personal*attorney on the Russia matter, Marc Kasowitz, found himself in hot*water*earlier this summer*after sending threatening*emails to a stranger.

    "Ty isn't a DC insider. He's the D team," the former partner said. He added that many at the firm were furious when Cobb took the position in the White House without first quitting his job at*Hogan Lovells. He*quit his job roughly two weeks after the White House announced he'd be joining Trump's legal team.

    "Most people were really glad to see him go," the partner said.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/ty-co...eporter-2017-9


    This is the same lawyer who was talking loudly about the Russia collusion case while seated at a table near a NYTimes reporter last week.


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    "A federal judge on Wednesday tore into President Trump’s voter commission for reneging on a promise to fully disclose public documents before a July 19 meeting, ordering the government to meet new transparency requirements and eliciting an apology from administration lawyers.

    U.S. District Judge Colleen *Kollar-Kotelly of Washington said the Election Integrity Commission released only an agenda and proposed bylaws before its first meeting at the White House complex last month."

    And this:
    "Justice Department civil division attorney Elizabeth J. Shapiro apologized for what she called a good-faith error by staffers, saying the panel wrote members Tuesday informing them of disclosure obligations, “mak[ing] clear there should be no surprises.”

    “It was truly an honest misunderstanding on the part of the commission with respect to its obligations to share information,” Shapiro said, based on what she said was guidance from the Office of Legal Counsel. “It was not an attempt to hide anything. It fully intends to be as transparent as possible. . . . I wanted to convey our apologies and our sincere regret for that.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...=.8ee8750ad944

    Are there any lawyers for Trump and his administration who actually know the law? Follow the law?

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    Here are the Prosecutors:

    "Special Counsel Robert Mueller has assembled a team of more than a dozen seasoned prosecutors to probe Russian interference in the 2016 election, including any potential collusion between Russian agents and members of Donald Trump’s campaign.
    In addition to a squad of agents from the FBI and the IRS, Mueller has 16 attorneys on staff, a spokesperson for Special Counsel Robert Mueller confirmed to ABC News, but only 14 of them have been identified publicly."

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/speci...ry?id=50186443