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    Quote Originally Posted by CARIIS View Post
    Although she almost flat out falls down during the hallway clips it is somewhat uniqure that the kitchen is where she has the least amount of things (whole wall vs a sink) she does not fall over.

    Just speculating that if someone was assisting and easily blocked out in that final sequence they would keep her from falling over.

    Carpeting tends to give less slip - you might think a old commercial kitchen floor might be far more slippery than carpeting

    just a ponder
    CARIIS with all due respect you have quite the imagination. I can't keep track of your theories bc each one strongly contradicts the one before it. I understand you think there was foul play, but it can't be the friends, the cops, hotel management, local government, AND aliens

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miss Magnolia View Post
    . I wouldn't be too concerned about the image of KJ'S size on the videos. I have met my share of mirrors and cameras that I have loved but have not loved me back. I think this normal distortion may have attributed to so many far out conspiracy theories. There is a possibility that the room MAY have been acquired fraudulently, that alcohol and drugs MAY have been served to minors, and that her friends MAY have made an error in judgement by leaving her alone. None of the above has been confirmed. There has been so much he said/she said allegations. Has there been any confirmation that a "friend" was an employee of the hotel, a security guard or is this part of the rumor mill? When my Sister died unexpectedly, we had no idea of what she died of and the wait was grueling, but we certainly did not expect anything nefarious. She died of a myocardial infarction, her heart.
    The Rosemont police confirmed that the room was rented fraudulently, and released surveillance video of the two people who used the fake credit cars. Irene is seen smoking weed on her very own video, and if KJ wasn't under the influence of drugs and alcohol, she was experiencing a very serious medical problem. And she's under the drinking age. Her friends told her mom they left her alone, which was clearly a mistake. Some of the things you are calling rumors are verified facts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CARIIS View Post
    Although she almost flat out falls down during the hallway clips it is somewhat uniqure that the kitchen is where she has the least amount of things (whole wall vs a sink) she does not fall over.

    Just speculating that if someone was assisting and easily blocked out in that final sequence they would keep her from falling over.

    Carpeting tends to give less slip - you might think a old commercial kitchen floor might be far more slippery than carpeting

    just a ponder
    It looks to me like she was just making a beeline across the kitchen because she thought she finally spotted an exit. Or a sink to throw up in. She was still clearly impaired, but walking with more purpose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miss Magnolia View Post
    . I wouldn't be too concerned about the image of KJ'S size on the videos. I have met my share of mirrors and cameras that I have loved but have not loved me back. I think this normal distortion may have attributed to so many far out conspiracy theories. There is a possibility that the room MAY have been acquired fraudulently, that alcohol and drugs MAY have been served to minors, and that her friends MAY have made an error in judgement by leaving her alone. None of the above has been confirmed. There has been so much he said/she said allegations. Has there been any confirmation that a "friend" was an employee of the hotel, a security guard or is this part of the rumor mill? When my Sister died unexpectedly, we had no idea of what she died of and the wait was grueling, but we certainly did not expect anything nefarious. She died of a myocardial infarction, her heart.
    It has been confirmed that the room was acquired with a stolen credit card.
    Nobody realizes that some people expend tremendous energy merely to be normal.
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    I would think it is pretty agreed upon that the FBI is the best forensic entity around.

    Since Rosemont police are assuring us that they want the truth in this tragedy.

    i have to wonder why a police a dept so concerned the facts they told the FBI to split and let them do it.

    Would you want the super duper bestest most fabulous best peerless editing lab looking over the video or a relatively small police dept that probably does not do much investigation into altered tapes.

    Would one want a good heart transplant doctor or the bestest ever ever ever ever doing your surgery??

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    Quote Originally Posted by CARIIS View Post
    I would think it is pretty agreed upon that the FBI is the best forensic entity around.

    Since Rosemont police are assuring us that they want the truth in this tragedy.

    i have to wonder why a police a dept so concerned the facts they told the FBI to split and let them do it.

    Would you want the super duper bestest most fabulous best peerless editing lab looking over the video or a relatively small police dept that probably does not do much investigation into altered tapes.

    Would one want a good heart transplant doctor or the bestest ever ever ever ever doing your surgery??
    The police do not suspect the surveillance videos were edited, so they don't need to have them analyzed for editing

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    Quote Originally Posted by JusThaFax View Post
    The Rosemont police confirmed that the room was rented fraudulently, and released surveillance video of the two people who used the fake credit cars. Irene is seen smoking weed on her very own video, and if KJ wasn't under the influence of drugs and alcohol, she was experiencing a very serious medical problem. And she's under the drinking age. Her friends told her mom they left her alone, which was clearly a mistake. Some of the things you are calling rumors are verified facts.
    So a lot of people don't think kenneka could have been stumbling like that from just alcohol. I've def been in that state from just alcohol but I was a party girl. That being said, there were many times I was really drunk and either smoked a blunt or "the cigarette that ended it all" (as my girlfriends and I used to call it) which would completely wipe me off the map. The entire world spinning and no balance whatsoever. Trying so hard to keep it together but it was damn hard to try to stand still without swaying back and forth unsteadily.

    Just offering another perspective. I just don't think it was date rape drugs or xanax. Fwiw people do take GHB recreationally, and it has a very distinct and strong saline taste. If someone put xanax in my drink it would taste bitter and terrible. I also just can't see xanax causing her to be so imbalanced. If anything I think it'd make her groggy and pass out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CARIIS View Post
    I would think it is pretty agreed upon that the FBI is the best forensic entity around.

    Since Rosemont police are assuring us that they want the truth in this tragedy.

    i have to wonder why a police a dept so concerned the facts they told the FBI to split and let them do it.

    Would you want the super duper bestest most fabulous best peerless editing lab looking over the video or a relatively small police dept that probably does not do much investigation into altered tapes.

    Would one want a good heart transplant doctor or the bestest ever ever ever ever doing your surgery??
    Because respectfully, the FBI has better things to do. Like investigate terrorism, child pornography, white collar crime, etc. if there is no evidence of a crime - let alone a federal crime - why would the FBI use resources on this????

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    Quote Originally Posted by CARIIS View Post
    I would think it is pretty agreed upon that the FBI is the best forensic entity around.

    Since Rosemont police are assuring us that they want the truth in this tragedy.

    i have to wonder why a police a dept so concerned the facts they told the FBI to split and let them do it.

    Would you want the super duper bestest most fabulous best peerless editing lab looking over the video or a relatively small police dept that probably does not do much investigation into altered tapes.

    Would one want a good heart transplant doctor or the bestest ever ever ever ever doing your surgery??
    There is no crime for them to investigate. The police have said they are considering this an accidental death investigation. Accident = no crime = no need for the FBI.

    The FBI doesn't investigate things like this anyway. Any crime they get involved in would have to take place crossing state lines (in two or more states) or be a federal crime, not a state crime.

    Rosemont is not a small town police department! O'Hare is there!

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    Still open to looking at video stills that show someone else in the hallway with kenneka. A few people said they saw someone multiple times, but I haven't been able to see the same. Can anyone who has seen this other person(s) please take a still pic with the person in it and circle the person so I can visualize? And of course I'm not asking to see the mirror reflections/shadows from kenneka herself. Thanks in advance


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    Quote Originally Posted by bears10 View Post
    So a lot of people don't think kenneka could have been stumbling like that from just alcohol. I've def been in that state from just alcohol but I was a party girl. That being said, there were many times I was really drunk and either smoked a blunt or "the cigarette that ended it all" (as my girlfriends and I used to call it) which would completely wipe me off the map. The entire world spinning and no balance whatsoever. Trying so hard to keep it together but it was damn hard to try to stand still without swaying back and forth unsteadily.

    Just offering another perspective. I just don't think it was date rape drugs or xanax. Fwiw people do take GHB recreationally, and it has a very distinct and strong saline taste. If someone put xanax in my drink it would taste bitter and terrible. I also just can't see xanax causing her to be so imbalanced. If anything I think it'd make her groggy and pass out.
    Yeah, I definitely think it's possible it could've just been liquor.

    Don't think it was GHB but I do think it could be Xanax, but if it was it was probably self administered.

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    It does make one groggy but if you're up and walking around you can fight through it. If you're already sitting/laying you might fall asleep. It would also depend on the amount.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miss Magnolia View Post
    . I wouldn't be too concerned about the image of KJ'S size on the videos. I have met my share of mirrors and cameras that I have loved but have not loved me back. I think this normal distortion may have attributed to so many far out conspiracy theories. There is a possibility that the room MAY have been acquired fraudulently, that alcohol and drugs MAY have been served to minors, and that her friends MAY have made an error in judgement by leaving her alone. None of the above has been confirmed. There has been so much he said/she said allegations. Has there been any confirmation that a "friend" was an employee of the hotel, a security guard or is this part of the rumor mill? When my Sister died unexpectedly, we had no idea of what she died of and the wait was grueling, but we certainly did not expect anything nefarious. She died of a myocardial infarction, her heart.
    My condolences!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaimeInLA View Post
    It looks to me like she was just making a beeline across the kitchen because she thought she finally spotted an exit. Or a sink to throw up in. She was still clearly impaired, but walking with more purpose.
    Still breaks my heart, that last video of her

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    Quote Originally Posted by rsd1200 View Post
    The 80s me would have taken the drink from the nice stranger, and opened up the possibility of ending up in someone's basement, with them lowering a basket of lotion down to me. 2017 me, uhm, no.
    Hmm..isn't that just good to know LOL!


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    Quote Originally Posted by tru2it4u View Post
    Hmm..isn't that just good to know LOL!


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    I am def curious about the basket of lotion lol Never heard that before

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