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    NC - Mebane, Wht/HispMale Skeletal 437UMNC, 10-12, off I-40, Sep'98

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/437umnc.html

    Reconstruction of Victim by NCMEC

    Unidentified White Male

    * The victim was discovered on September 25, 1998 near Mebane, Alamance County, North Carolina
    * Skeletal Remains
    * Died sometime during 1998.

    Vital Statistics

    * Estimated age: 10 - 11 years old
    * Approximate Height and Weight: 4'11" (150 cm); 50 lbs (23 kg)
    * Distinguishing Characteristics: Brown hair; unknown eye color.
    * Dentals: He had sealant on the surfaces of some of his teeth.
    * Clothing: He was wearing "Fox Polo Club" brand khaki shorts, size 3 "2XS Sports" brand black and white athletic shoes, and white tube socks.

    Case History
    The child's body was found along Industrial Drive near Mebane, NC on September 25, 1998.
    He may have been part of a migrant worker group that populates the area every harvest

    Please note: The NCMEC did the reconstruction. The Doe Network has the information as he was 10-11 years old when he died in 1998. The NCMEC has him listed in the "age now" field as 10-11 years old! Further in, under "circumstances" they list him as 10-11 yrs old when he was found, in 1998.
    http://www.missingkids.com/missingki...archLang=en_US

    That would make him 17-18 years old, in 2005, in the "age now" if he's listed as a missing child.
    Last edited by CarlK90245; 03-25-2013 at 02:15 AM. Reason: updated link

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    I have found no "aha!" matches. I searched for children reported missing from January 1, 1998 to January 1, 2000. I will list the closest matches... but ALL have problems.


    Luis in 1998 on left, John Doe on right

    For an age progressed pic of Luis go to:
    http://www.nampn.doenetwork.us/cases/lugo_luis.html

    Luis Lopez Lugo

    Vital Statistics at Time of Disappearance

    # Missing Since: June 20, 1998 from Guayanilla, Puerto Rico
    # Classification: Endangered Missing
    # Date Of Birth: September 3, 1988
    # Age: 9
    # Height: 4'5"
    # Weight: 90 lbs.
    # Hair Color: Black
    # Eye Color: Brown/Black
    # Race: White/Hispanic
    # Gender: Male
    # Distinguishing Characteristics: Scar over left eyebrow.
    # Clothing: Blue shorts and a white shirt.
    # Case Number: NCMC855408

    Details of Disappearance
    Luis was last seen on June 20, 1998 in Guayanilla, Puerto Rico. He may be living in New York State.

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    1. The photo of Luis looks like the reconstruction of John Doe
    2. Luis is White/Hispanic, John Doe is listed as white - discrepancy
    3. Luis is listed as having Black hair (and it does look black in the photo), John Doe is listed as having Brown hair - discrepancy
    4. Luis had almost reached his 10th birthday when he disappeared in 1998. John Doe is estimated to be 10-11 - match
    5. Luis is listed as 4'5" and 90lbs, John Doe is listed as 4'11 and 50lbs - could this difference be a result of growing/change in activities?
    6. Luis was thought to possibly be in New York State. Is it possible that he travelled with migrant workers, and was with them in NC?

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    Actually I elimated another possibility I had because he'd be too old now.

    So that's it. I checked U.S., Canada, and Mexico through NCMEC and either the missing dates don't match up, or the age is way off.

    So who is this boy??????? Could John Doe indeed be Luis????

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    I had no idea he was listed on doe network already.

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    2xs sports shoes are sold at Walmart. Not sure where else.

    Fox Polo Club I have no clue on.

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    Could this be the same boy?

    http://doenetwork.us/cases/96umfl.html




    John Doe on left, boy in photo on right (note bottom of face is reconstructed)

    # Unidentified White Male A photograph of this boy was found on June 15, 1989 in Port St. Joe, Florida.

    Vital Statistics

    * Estimated age: 12 years old
    * Approximate Height and Weight: 4'0"
    * Distinguishing Characteristics: Brown hair; blue eyes.

    Case History
    On June 15, 1989, a Polaroid photo of this boy, bound and gagged in the back of a van, was found in a Port St. Joe, FL convenience store parking lot by a customer. The lower part of the face of the child is reconstructed. The tape was on his face from below the nose to the point of the jaw.
    The photo also showed an unidentified girl, also bound. The photo was found where a white Toyota cargo van with no windows had previously been parked.
    Investigators are still trying to ascertain the boy's identity, which would allow them to close the case or investigate further.
    There have been speculations that the girl in the photo is Tara Calico who disappeared from New Mexico in 1988.

    1. The both look a lot alike, if the age is based around when the photo was found then they are the same age.
    2. Since the photo was taken sometime before 1989, its possible that it was taken in 1988, when John Doe was thought to have been killed
    3. Both John Doe and the boy in the photo had brown hair.
    4. John Doe is estimated to be 4'11", boy in photo is estimated to be 4"0"-discrepancy
    5. There is no eye color listed for John Doe, but boy in photo had blue eyes.
    6. Tara Calico disappeared on September 20, 1988. John Doe's remains were found on September 25, 1998 and they were skeletal, so he would have had to have died sometime before. Boy in the photo - its unknown if he was even a victim as all they found was the photo.

    THIS WAS A DATING ERROR-IT CAN NOT POSSIBLY BE THE BOY IN THE PHOTO, PLEASE DISREGARD THIS POST.
    Last edited by PonderingThings; 01-15-2006 at 07:30 PM. Reason: Dating error-please disregard this post completely!

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    I know that the general concensus is that Michael Anthony Hughes is dead, but I have always thought that he resembled the unidentified Mebane boy.

    Michael: http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/1061dmok.html

    Unidentified: http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/437umnc.html

    I'm not one to discount anything. It would be a stretch, but what if Floyd gave the child away, and he was later murdered? Their ages match up, and I think they resemble one another.

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    John Doe died in 1998, not 1988.

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    Good eye Mr. E!

    Yes they all look alike... and have brown hair... and would be about the same age. John Doe is unknown eye color, Michael has brown eyes, and boy in photo has blue eyes... so at least one of them doesn't match John Doe... but which one.... or both?

    Note: Please disregard boy in the photo on right - dating error, can not possibly be him!
    Last edited by PonderingThings; 01-15-2006 at 07:28 PM. Reason: DATING ERROR

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    Floyd had ties to NC, I think. I recall that Sharon's high school friend got a strange call from Sharon asking her (while at the same time NOT asking her) to come to NC. I might have my states mixed up.

    I always wanted to believe that Michael didn't die by Floyd's hand, although I know he has said to some that he murdered the boy, and cadaver dogs did sniff out a scent in the pickup truck shortly after Michael was taken from school. Still, Floyd had a large network of "friends." Maybe he passed the boy on and something happened to him later.


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    Anthrobones thank you! I got mixed up on the dates when I was looked at the boy in the photo details .... so, since his photo was found in 1989 he can not possibly be John Doe or Michael Anthony Hughes.

    PLEASE DISREGARD THE INFORMATION/COMPARISONS TO THE BOY IN THE PHOTO.

    All other comparisons though still stand.

    John Doe/Micheal Anthony Hughes
    John Doe/ Luis Lopez Lugo

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    I followed up on Mr. E's theory and went through the NCMEC records for all boys:

    1. Who would be 9-12 years old in 1998
    2. Who had been abducted/diappeared between Jan 1, 1994-Jan 1, 1997 (which covers an earlier period that I hadn't previously searched)
    3. Who had brown hair & brown eyes.
    4. Please note, most of these boys would have to fall between their actual photos and their age progression photos.

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    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/...lips_jack.html

    Left: Phillips, circa 1995; Age 9
    Center: John Doe
    Right: Age-progression at age 17 (circa 2003)

    Jack Daniel Phillips
    Date Of Birth: June 22, 1986 (age in 1998=12)-disappeared when he was 9
    brown hair, brown eyes




    http://doenetwork.us/cases/1168dmwa.html

    Left: Herda, circa 1995;Age 7
    Center: John Doe
    Right: Age-progression to age 17 (circa 2005)

    Bryce Florian Herda
    Date Of Birth: July 24, 1988, Age in 1998=10, Disappeared at age 6
    Brown hair, brown eyes




    Romero on the left; Age 5
    John Doe on the right
    Note: no age progression photo

    http://www.missingkids.com/missingki...archLang=en_US

    RENE ALBERTO ROMERO
    DOB: Nov 29, 1989 (Age in 1998=9) disappeared when he was 5
    Brown Hair, Brown Eyes





    http://doenetwork.us/cases/968dmca.html
    Left: Perez, circa 1994; 6
    Center: John Doe
    Right: Age-progression to age 17 (circa 2005)

    Rene Perez Jr.
    * Date Of Birth: February 16, 1988 (Age in 1998=10) Disappeared (foul play possible) when he was 6
    Brown hair, brown eyes





    http://doenetwork.us/cases/1496dmny.html

    Lorusso on left;age 8
    John Doe on right
    There is no age progression for Lorusso

    Michael Lorusso
    Date Of Birth: April 13, 1988, (in 1998 he was 10), family abduction age=8
    Brown Hair, Brown Eyes




    http://doenetwork.us/cases/1375dmor.html

    Left: Garcia, circa 1995; Age 8
    Center: John Doe
    Right: Age-Progression to age 15

    Joshua Garcia

    Date Of Birth: September 14, 1987, Age in 1998=12, Family Abduction Age 8 **Has Twin, Brown Hair, Brown Eyes




    http://doenetwork.us/cases/1374dmor.html

    Left: Garcia, circa 1995;Age 8
    Center: John Doe
    Right: Age-Progression to age 15

    Caleb Garcia

    Date Of Birth: September 14, 1987, Age in 1998=12, Family Abduction Age 8 **Has Twin, Brown Hair, Brown Eyes

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    I did the same as above, and went through the NCMEC records for all boys:

    1. Who would be 9-12 years old in 1998
    2. Who had been abducted/disappeared between Jan 1, 1994-Jan 1, 1997 (which covers an earlier period that I hadn't previously searched)
    3. Who had brown hair & blue eyes. **I also included blonde hair
    4. Please note, most of these boys would have to fall between their actual photos and their age progression photos.




    http://doenetwork.us/cases/833dmwv.html

    Shoemaker on right: Age 5
    John Doe: Center
    Shoemaker on right, age progressed to age 16

    Victor Dewight Shoemaker
    Date Of Birth: March 30, 1989 (Age in 1998=9)-disappeared when he was 5
    Blond hair, blue eyes






    http://doenetwork.us/cases/1394dmin.html
    Left: McBride, circa 1995; Age 6
    Center: John Doe
    Right: Age-Progression to age 16 (circa 2005)

    Steven Joseph McBride

    Date Of Birth: January 21, 1989, (Age in 1998-9), Family Abduction-Age 6
    Blond hair, blue eyes



    http://doenetwork.us/cases/1151dmin.html

    Landers on left; Age 5
    John Doe on right

    Richard Landers
    Date Of Birth: October 26, 1988, (age in 1998=10), family abduction when he was 5
    Brown Hair, Blue Eyes

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    Ok I'm done posting, for now. My brain and eyes need a break as I'm starting to feel really after all of that counting and checking.

    Also I could just for creating the confusion about the boy in the photo! Oh well... I'm just a I guess... gotta be one sometime!

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    bumping up post

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