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    Quote Originally Posted by juli99 View Post
    Just jumping in here, does anyone know the name of the "predecessor" company that he worked for that became Lockheed Martin? I heard that part and it made me think of Jonbenet Ramsey's dad, who I believe also worked for a predecessor of Lockheed Martin. I wondered if it was the same company.
    Isn't Lockheed Martin also the company that had many employees on MH370?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gooddeeds View Post
    -The brother will do a “PAID” interview to raise money for the victims?!?!?! The irony! He will do an “exclusive” interview about his late brother in RETURN FOR THE MONEY. So he will share info (not related to the spree) but only if he gets paid to donate to the victims. I WANT $1 million dollars...”
    That’s just BIZARRE, and IMO lends itself to the money weirdness stories.

    Here is part of the article the above poster linked-thank you.

    ***A brother of Strip shooter Stephen Paddock said Wednesday he is trying to raise $1 million for the victims of the mass killings outside Mandalay Bay.
    Eric Paddock, 55, said he is offering an exclusive interview about his late brother to a national news organization in return for the money.
    “I want $1 million donated to a victims fund,” he said, his voice choking in a telephone interview. “It’s ripping my family up, but I have to do this.”
    Paddock said he understands that most news organizations do not pay for interviews, but he is hoping someone might donate the money for the victims***
    Why would anyone offer up a million bucks in donations, for an interview with someone who has talked nonstop from day one? What else is left to say?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dizzychick View Post
    I saw that too and just think it was one of many hundreds of bullets he chose to spray on the crowd and two hit that tank, even I know if you shoot at a thick fuel tank it would not ignite unless you also have a spark to go with it. I think it was just a stray bullet
    Quote Originally Posted by RaynaLoves View Post
    I just saw or read he may have tried to shoot a gas tank thing and I wonder if his car with explosives was nearer to that tank. Will look for link but mat have watched that live

    ETA link
    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/05...port-says.html
    I think he shot the tank a day before
    https://www.reviewjournal.com/local/...s-source-says/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grasshopper View Post
    I'm wondering about this receipt development. The date is 9/27/17 (Friday). It shows an order to room 32135. Yet, other reports say that SP was in another room at that time. He was moved into the requested 32135 room when it was vacated on Saturday. Which would have been sometime on 9/28/17 after normal check out time I would guess.

    Receipt:
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-massacre.html

    Info on room request/change:
    "A person who has seen Mandalay Bay hotel records that have been turned over to investigators said Wednesday they show Stephen Paddock asked for the two-room suite on the 32nd floor when he checked in last Thursday. The room wasn't available until Saturday and he moved into it then and opened fire from it the next night, killing dozens and wounding hundreds."

    https://m.lasvegassun.com/news/2017/...e-opened-fire/

    I just find it odd that nobody noticed him moving all that "luggage" from one room to another. Don't all the high end casinos have security cameras in the hallways? When I was in Reno I noticed them in the hotel I stayed at.
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    Porters would have helped him move
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    Quote Originally Posted by bears10 View Post
    Also could his plane even get to Asia if need be. I was under the impression it was a prop plane but I could be pulling that out of my ....

    I was more wondering if he supposedly suprised her with this cheap ticket how and why she got to Tokyo after going to the Philippines first.
    We would have to know what type of plane he had. If his plane had enough fuel range, that could be possible, with two or three stops to refuel, and several days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by juli99 View Post
    Just jumping in here, does anyone know the name of the "predecessor" company that he worked for that became Lockheed Martin? I heard that part and it made me think of Jonbenet Ramsey's dad, who I believe also worked for a predecessor of Lockheed Martin. I wondered if it was the same company.
    Lockheed Corporation or Martin Marietta. I don't believe it has been reported which company he worked for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaaBoom View Post
    We would have to know what type of plane he had. If his plane had enough fuel range, that could be possible, with two or three stops to refuel, and several days.
    I don't think it would be possible in a single engine plane except by hugging the coast of Canada, Alaska, Russia etc etc. According to this:

    https://www.quora.com/How-far-can-a-...e-airplane-fly

    Maximum range would be 2,000 miles.

    LA to Hawai'i is 2,500 miles.

    Even if he hopped all the way to Ecuador, he couldn't get further across the Pacific than the Galapagos Islands.

    My guess is that he planned on being able to get to Mexico and beyond and then pick up a scheduled flight to Asia, probably taking a roundabout route to wherever he wanted to end up. Maybe even backtrack to one of the Pacific nations/archipelagos and try to disappear from sight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MelmothTheLost View Post
    I don't think it would be possible in a single engine plane except by hugging the coast of Canada, Alaska, Russia etc etc. According to this:

    https://www.quora.com/How-far-can-a-...e-airplane-fly

    Maximum range would be 2,000 miles.

    LA to Hawai'i is 2,500 miles.

    Even if he hopped all the way to Ecuador, he couldn't get further across the Pacific than the Galapagos Islands.

    My guess is that he planned on being able to get to Mexico and beyond and then pick up a scheduled flight to Asia, probably taking a roundabout route to wherever he wanted to end up. Maybe even backtrack to one of the Pacific nations/archipelagos and try to disappear from sight.
    Well there you go. You just listed one way. Another way would be to use ferry tanks to carry extra fuel. Again we would have to know what type of planes he had.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ambitioned View Post
    IIRC first burst wasn't into the crowd. I wonder if he fired at the tanks but they didn't blow. (With that double rolled steel you're only gonna get bullet dents). Maybe switched to plan B and fired at the people. Just a thought before hitting the sack.

    There were two bullet holes in the tanks. One of them penetrated the tank.

    Las Vegas Strip shooter targeted aviation fuel tanks, source says

    Las Vegas Strip mass murderer Stephen Paddock used his Mandalay Bay hotel room to fire bullets at jet fuel tanks Sunday night, a knowledgeable source told the Las Vegas Review-Journal.

    The bullets left two holes in one of two circular white tanks. One of the bullets penetrated the tank, but did not cause a fire or explosion near the Route 91 Harvest country music festival, another knowledgeable source said late Wednesday.

    The tanks are roughly 1,100 feet from the concert site, where Paddock killed 58 people and wounded almost 500. Several airplane hangars belonging to prominent corporations are also near the tanks.

    Within the past couple of days, a construction crew repaired the holes, and FBI agents inspected the tanks and took measurements of the line of fire from Mandalay Bay, the sources said.
    Las Vegas Strip shooter targeted aviation fuel tanks, source says


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    One fellow gambler at a casino near Paddock’s home recounted a bizarre incident from a few months back when he shared a blackjack table with the shooter.

    “He said, ‘I wish I could just go kill my mom. I don’t know why the hell she brought me into this world,’ ” recalled Leo Miller, 85, a regular at the Eureka Casino.

    “Everybody at the table couldn’t believe what he said . . . When he was sober, he was nice as anybody. His drinking got to the point where he didn’t even know what the hell he was doing on the table.”

    Ex-cop Hope Ahrens, 63, said Paddock and his live-in girlfriend Marilou Danley, 62, stopped in most mornings for coffee and a Krispy Kreme doughnut at her gas station.

    Danley would also pick up two cheap bottles of wine for $3 each during the morning stop.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.3538716

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    Quote Originally Posted by KaaBoom View Post
    Well there you go. You just listed one way.
    The point I was trying to make is that that route is not feasible. It would take him the best part of a week to clear Canada and Alaska, and he would need to put down and refuel at least once before he left US airspace. Even if he evaded watches being kept for him, he would have to run the gauntlet of the Russian, North and South Korean, Chinese and Japanese airforces. He really wasn't going to get past that lot, especially as everyone in that region is on the lookout for anything out of the ordinary at present.

    Another way would be to use ferry tanks to carry extra fuel.
    Maybe. I don't know enough about that to know how feasible it is.

    Again we would have to know what type of planes he had.
    All I've seen is mention of him having been licenced for single-engine props for landing on land.

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    Eric said that Stephen stopped talking to his brother Bruce because Bruce used to beat him up when they were kids*and that Stephen stopped talking to Patrick because they’re very different people.

    Another classmate remembered Paddock showing up at a 20-year reunion and repeatedly angling to talk to her.
    Nelson, in Las Vegas, fished through an old box of keepsakes and found a 10-year reunion program that contained a one-line description that each classmate had written. Paddock’s read: “Single, accountant, has traveled to Hollywood, lives in Sepulveda [Calif.]”

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.was...arilou-danley/

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    I am having so much trouble with the hero security guards story. I just don't understand how an unarmed security guard managed to approach that door and end up with a minor shot to the leg while SP struck people with head shots from over 1000 feet away!!! That whole scenario before the police arrived is baffling to me from the police scanners. I'm not accusing the security guy just thinking aloud....was he spared deliberately??? Known to SP???

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    Quote Originally Posted by MelmothTheLost View Post
    The point I was trying to make is that that route is not feasible. It would take him the best part of a week to clear Canada and Alaska, and he would need to put down and refuel at least once before he left US airspace. Even if he evaded watches being kept for him, he would have to run the gauntlet of the Russian, North and South Korean, Chinese and Japanese airforces. He really wasn't going to get past that lot, especially as everyone in that region is on the lookout for anything out of the ordinary at present.



    Maybe. I don't know enough about that to know how feasible it is.



    All I've seen is mention of him having been licenced for single-engine props for landing on land.
    I'm not sure if it would be feasible or not. I was just answering the question. It would be possible. We would have to know exactly what type of planes he had.

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