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    Quote Originally Posted by crabstick View Post
    Weeks prior puts the attacker in and around the Rally Australia event. An attempt to run Cutler off the road.

    Dorothy, an attack at the Sheraton hotel was ripped out of her car in the carpark by her hair, wrapped in tape, then put into a car with a metal seat. (Rally and speedway cars have metal bomber passenger seats) The man driving a yellow Toyota, wearing driving gloves that were rough, according the media.
    *See prior posts for reference, microfiche at state library. No online ref source
    Rally Australia is an automobile rally event which was held in and around Perth, Western Australia from 1988 until 2006, when that state's tourism commission severed its collaboration with the event. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rally_Australia

    It was actually the Telstra Rally Australia – I think a WS mentioned that beforehand….

    The world's top rally drivers will all have an eye on the weather when the 13th round of this year's FIA World Rally Championship, the Telstra Rally Australia, starts in host city Perth this evening. Although the rally starts with the spectacular... https://www.motorsport.com/wrc/news/...event-preview/
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    Quote Originally Posted by papertrail View Post
    what is the relevance of canning sea scouts and kewdale highschool in the scheme of things
    Someone went to Kewdale Highschool?
    Canning Sea Scouts are near by. Hone your map navigations skills and knots.

    Quote Originally Posted by Canning Vale View Post
    Rally Australia is an automobile rally event which was held in and around Perth, Western Australia from 1988 until 2006, when that state's tourism commission severed its collaboration with the event. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rally_Australia

    It was actually the Telstra Rally Australia – I think a WS mentioned that beforehand….

    The world's top rally drivers will all have an eye on the weather when the 13th round of this year's FIA World Rally Championship, the Telstra Rally Australia, starts in host city Perth this evening. Although the rally starts with the spectacular... https://www.motorsport.com/wrc/news/...event-preview/
    Dorothy was allegedly adducted by a yellow Toyota wearing rough driver gloves, strapping her in a steel seat that is often used as rally or speedway seat around the time of the 1988 Rally Australia.
    Dorothy was then dumped at Centenary Avenue, Wilson. In 1998 year of Bicentenary celebrations.

    I cant get back to the prior post with a link for Google 'EARTH' which cant be online referenced as it is PC based. Elizabeth wreck is about where Cutlers seat was found, South side the groyne. About out front of John Curtains house approx in line with Jarrad street and Rosser street on the S32 parallel.

    https://www.google.com.au/maps/place...!4d115.7510477
    Last edited by crabstick; 11-15-2017 at 12:26 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canning Vale View Post
    Rally Australia is an automobile rally event which was held in and around Perth, Western Australia from 1988 until 2006, when that state's tourism commission severed its collaboration with the event. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rally_Australia

    It was actually the Telstra Rally Australia – I think a WS mentioned that beforehand….

    The world's top rally drivers will all have an eye on the weather when the 13th round of this year's FIA World Rally Championship, the Telstra Rally Australia, starts in host city Perth this evening. Although the rally starts with the spectacular... https://www.motorsport.com/wrc/news/...event-preview/
    Was telstra around in 1988?

    Found this article with actual dates 30 April to 1 may 1988 in wa


    https://www.revolvy.com/main/index.p...20Championship

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    Quote Originally Posted by papertrail View Post
    Was telstra around in 1988?

    Found this article with actual dates 30 April to 1 may 1988 in wa


    https://www.revolvy.com/main/index.p...20Championship
    I think it was called Telecom in 1988. Ill check. It may have still just been PMG. It was then called Telecom I believe.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postma...27s_Department
    The Australian Government Postmaster-General's Department (PMG) was established at Australia's Federation tasked with responsibility for postal and telegraphic services. It was abolished in December 1975 concerning growing responsibility, and the two separate legal entities were established: Telstra, and Australia Post.


    Source:Google Earth
    *Perth GPO is no longer the main building now abolished for a smaller building. Coordinates have since been removed accordingly. It was the GPO at the time
    Last edited by crabstick; 11-15-2017 at 12:36 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crabstick View Post
    Someone went to Kewdale Highschool?
    Canning Sea Scouts are near by. Hone your map navigations skills and knots.


    Who attended kewdale high?

    Where is it stated in msm that the gloves worn in Sheraton attack were those of a type worn by racing drivers?

    Offender rifled through rubbish at a courier firm. Perhaps gloves were run of the mill industrial or garden gloves the type with suede palms.

    If the normal passenger seat had been removed maybe Dorothy was placed in the metal frame that held the normal seat.

    People on here may have jumped to a false conclusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crabstick View Post
    Someone went to Kewdale Highschool?
    Canning Sea Scouts are near by. Hone your map navigations skills and knots.



    Dorothy was allegedly adducted by a yellow Toyota wearing rough driver gloves, strapping her in a steel seat that is often used as rally or speedway seat around the time of the 1988 Rally Australia.
    Dorothy was then dumped at Centenary Avenue, Wilson. In 1998 year of Bicentenary celebrations.

    I cant get back to the prior post with a link for Google 'EARTH' which cant be online referenced as it is PC based. Elizabeth wreck is about where Cutlers seat was found, South side the groyne. About out front of John Curtains house approx in line with Jarrad street and Rosser street on the S32 parallel.

    https://www.google.com.au/maps/place...!4d115.7510477
    [QUOTE=crabstick;13755611]I think it was called Telecom in 1988.

    Here you go

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telstra

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    Quote Originally Posted by crabstick View Post
    As you can see here Papertrail, this is where Dorothy was dumped at Centenary Park. Surrounded by Curtain University, Canning Sea Scouts who do events at Kewdale Highschool. And of course Bentley Community hall where Corryn Rayney did her line dancing before she ended up on Mt Eliza.

    Hi Crabstick, that's the 2nd time you've mentioned Kewdale Highschool. Why, what's the link? (Apart from BRE buying a house nearby in Kewdale,- but by which time it was no longer known as Kewdale HS). And, what events did the Sea Scouts do at Kewdale HS? When? And what is the significance?
    Thanks for clearing up, I'm not following!

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    Quote Originally Posted by papertrail View Post
    Who attended kewdale high?

    Where is it stated in msm that the gloves worn in Sheraton attack were those of a type worn by racing drivers?

    Offender rifled through rubbish at a courier firm. Perhaps gloves were run of the mill industrial or garden gloves the type with suede palms.

    If the normal passenger seat had been removed maybe Dorothy was placed in the metal frame that held the normal seat.

    People on here may have jumped to a false conclusion.
    Snap! Sorry papertrail saw your question to Crabstick re Kewdale SHS after I asked the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xyz View Post
    Hi Crabstick, that's the 2nd time you've mentioned Kewdale Highschool. Why, what's the link? (Apart from BRE buying a house nearby in Kewdale,- but by which time it was no longer known as Kewdale HS). And, what events did the Sea Scouts do at Kewdale HS? When? And what is the significance?
    Thanks for clearing up, I'm not following!
    If you read carefully, you can see it has a question mark

    If you read back, the Sea Scouts are near Centenary drive. Did Kerry Turner go to Kewdale Highschool? That was the last time I asked? Which highschool did Kerry Turner go to?

    There has been mention in books etc of LW and Scouts which lead me to believe there is a possible link police have established with Scouts.


    Ref: Google Maps
    https://www.google.com.au/maps/place...!4d115.9006343
    Last edited by crabstick; 11-15-2017 at 01:38 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xyz View Post
    Snap! Sorry papertrail saw your question to Crabstick re Kewdale SHS after I asked the same thing.
    The fact the rally was under way at the time, it is a serious consideration. Steel seat, media said "driving gloves" that were rough ref: State Library

    Rally used to do some city demos outside Adelaide terrace where she went from. The Esplanade was converted into a track in one stage.



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    Quote Originally Posted by papertrail View Post
    Who attended kewdale high?

    Where is it stated in msm that the gloves worn in Sheraton attack were those of a type worn by racing drivers?

    Offender rifled through rubbish at a courier firm. Perhaps gloves were run of the mill industrial or garden gloves the type with suede palms.

    If the normal passenger seat had been removed maybe Dorothy was placed in the metal frame that held the normal seat.

    People on here may have jumped to a false conclusion.
    Whether they have or havent, I dont see the relevance of the lines of enquiry anyway.
    Lets say he did take part in the rally... And?? Does that give an ID as to who it is, No. Does it narrow it down, not without a list of all participants and an absolute confirmation the perp participated. Why bother? Seems pretty pointless to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by no name View Post
    Whether they have or havent, I dont see the relevance of the lines of enquiry anyway.
    Lets say he did take part in the rally... And?? Does that give an ID as to who it is, No. Does it narrow it down, not without a list of all participants and an absolute confirmation the perp participated. Why bother? Seems pretty pointless to me.
    We will see after the trial wont we. It certainly describes the potential perp profile. That's what we are here for? Ascertain attributes of a perp profile?
    So fast to discount it, Weird.

    Police can certainly check the yellow toyota in amateur rally at the time to find potential candidates. Then check that with other attributes of the crime. Thats not a big list. Yellow Toyota in amateur rally in 1988.

    Cross check relationships with vehicle owners of rally and Claremont Speedway. Attacks happened at the subway near Claremont Speedway.
    Did someone work at the speedway then knock off at midnight?


    Google maps
    #checkThisUsername #noname

    Here you can see that the Claremont Showgrounds, aka Claremont Speedway at the time is less than a few hundred metres from the Claremont Hotel
    Steel bomber seats were used in these types of cars.

    https://www.google.com.au/maps/place....7855771?dcr=0

    http://www.speedwayandroadracehistor...991--1995.html
    Last edited by crabstick; 11-15-2017 at 02:31 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crabstick View Post
    If you read carefully, you can see it has a question mark

    If you read back, the Sea Scouts are near Centenary drive. Did Kerry Turner go to Kewdale Highschool? That was the last time I asked? Which highschool did Kerry Turner go to?

    There has been mention in books etc of LW and Scouts which lead me to believe there is a possible link police have established with Scouts.


    Ref: Google Maps
    https://www.google.com.au/maps/place...!4d115.9006343
    I'm pretty sure KT didn't got to Kewdale SHS. and I'm still not clear on the link between Sea Scouts and that school? There are many other schools closer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xyz View Post
    I'm pretty sure KT didn't got to Kewdale SHS. and I'm still not clear on the link between Sea Scouts and that school? There are many other schools closer
    Sea Scouts must had a relationship with Kewdale SHS as there is a couple of pages where Scout events were at the school. Not sure if Scouts went to Gosnells.
    Im going to have to refrain from answering too many more questions as I feel I am over posting and don't like it.

    As we all know, police hired the Cottesloe Scout Hall for surveillance on a past POI, and he was a scout. There has been media discussion about Scouts in this case.
    As you can see here, there is the Scout hall opposite where Dorothy was dumped by the yellow Toyota in Centenary Avenue, Wilson, well described as Toyota by victim and media.
    Last edited by crabstick; 11-15-2017 at 02:47 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canning Vale View Post
    Re: AKA Dorothy’s Attack – Sheraton Hotel

    My thoughts are the perpetrator may have been at Fenians Irish Pub which is also on Adelaide Tce opposite the Sheraton Hotel (Cnr Hill St). Perhaps the perp. was on his way home when he spotted Dorothy. Perhaps he was parked on Hill St. I’m thinking it was opportunistic because he wasn’t prepared, he didn’t have tape in his vehicle.

    He pulled her arms behind her and wrapped them in parcel tape stolen from the couriers.

    Was he already familiar with what was in the bin or just scavenged around to find something suitable?

    Fenians opened in 1987 - I’m not sure what month, but three horrific incidents occurred between 1987/1988

    Sally Greenham – August 1987 watoday
    AKA Dorothy – May 1988
    Julie Cutler – June 1988 MP

    http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rc...1e8kWA26vzd5pV

    Was the rally held on any of these dates Aug 1987, May or June 1988?

    These are only my thoughts and opinions
    Hi Canning Vale - maybe the perpetrator actually worked for the courier company. He had knowledge of the area (maybe knew there wouldn't be any witnesses at the time of the attack). He knew where to get the tape from. MOO

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