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    NH - Maura Murray, 21, Haverhill, 9 Feb 2004 - #3

    Continue on with Maura thread.


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    Quote Originally Posted by WindChime
    Continue on with Maura thread.
    I am hoping that you websleuthers will not give up on discussing Maura's case. Maura's family believes that the numerous "hits" here on websleuths has been a help in convincing the media to feature Maura.

    Also, there is very interesting reading and a time line on www.mauramurray.com

    For you new comers many photographs of Maura can be found at www.spbowers.com\mauramissing.html


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    as we wait

    While we wait for various developments to play out--Judge Vaughn's ruling in Grafton County on Mr. Murray's suit, the 20-20 program to air, the new PI & retired police team to dig into Maura's case--I have been sifting backing through posts and news articles.

    1) DocWho wonders in his 11/13/05 post if Maura's "death in the family" excuse in leaving UMA was really just to buy time, and how she could have returned to campus without someone questioning this lie or her family finding out.

    2) In the CNN interview with Soledad O'Brien on 2/17/04 Lt Rausch is adamant and totally certain that the "chilling voice mail" he received on 2/11/04 on his cellphone at the Okla City airport (sic--he says Tuesday morning which was 2/10 ) "what I believed to be Maura whimpering and crying in the background."

    3) Other than the $280 from the ATM withdrawal, did Maura have more money or could she have sold her jewelry or schoolbooks etc to raise cash?

    Her Father in the AP/Globe interview of 2/21/04 says "to take a break or start a new life, she would need money...she hasn't used her ATM card (again)...she hasn't spent a dime" implying that she did not have any more money than the ATM withdrawal.

    4) Two years later and all we have are unanswered questions.


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    case in point

    Often, even though it may be hard for some to understand, people leave:
    Such cases as the one below are why it is not inconceivable that a nice young lady might choose to leave. Note that the time involved is 16 years. That is why in a previous post I mentioned that Maura has not been gone all that long in terms of this type of case, even though I am sure it seems like forever to her family.

    . . . An Angels Camp mother of three who vanished nearly 16 years ago has been found alive and living a new life in Colorado, an investigator said yesterday.

    Patricia Lea Whaley disappeared April 20, 1990, after telling her family she was headed to a doctor's appointment in Lodi, causing family and law enforcement in Angels Camp to speculate whether Whaley had been kidnapped or killed.

    Whaley's van was found in a Lodi parking lot, along with her purse and identification. But no trace of where Whaley had gone was discovered until last Thursday when Calaveras County Senior District Attorney's Investigator John Crawford plugged Whaley's name and Social Security number into the department's new Accurint computer search program . . .
    . . . The investigator contacted law enforcement in Colorado, who assisted in locating Whaley.

    Crawford said the find was bittersweet.

    Whaley, he said, does not want to see or be contacted by her family . . .
    http://websleuths.com/forums/showpos...74&postcount=1

    Thread located at:
    http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35484
    Last edited by docwho3; 01-25-2006 at 09:01 AM.


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    Arrow Maura to be Featured on Nancy Grace

    According to www.mauramurray.com Maura's case will be featured on the Nancy Grace Show Friday January 27


    We have been advised that Nancy Grace will be airing a story on Maura, which is scheduled for this Friday, January 27th, 8-9PM ET. Please check your local listings for more information and viewing times. Nancy's website (listed below) does not contain information about the show, but several people that are to appear live advised us of Friday night's show (thanks!).

    http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/nancy.grace/


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    This is the answer the father got from law enforcement about the files;
    http://www.thechamplainchannel.com/n...54/detail.html


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    Nancy Grace Transcript Jan. 27, 2006:

    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP.../27/ng.01.html


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    Its very ununsual for a Judge to decline to order the release of documents, especially when they could be turned over redacted if there was a concern of injury to the investigation. I don't think Maura's family had anything to do with her disappearance, but the decision from the Judge sounds like the police suspect them.


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    So. There IS something in the records he doesn't know. That much seems certain.

    Someone, or some piece of physical evidence, something that he doesn't know about.

    All along I kind of thought there wasn't anything - but there is.

    What a frustration for him.


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    so many questions

    I have numerous questions about this case, and I am wondering if perhaps the answers are out there and I just haven't located them. Some of them may not seem that important to you, but they may be. Perhaps someone can help me answer them.

    What is with the letter that is said to have been left in her room? The one ?TO? or
    ?FROM? her Bill Rausch? I have found conflicting accounts of this. It's a pretty black and white question, doesn't seem like there should be conflicting accounts about it. If there was a letter from him, what did it say? I read somewhere that all letters found in her room to and from Bill were just of the mushy variety.

    What was her reason for transferring from West Point and how long before her disappearance did she do that? West Point is a very elite school, one that is outstanding to have graduated from. GO ARMY BEAT NAVY!

    Where is Bill Rausch now? Still at FT Sill Oklahoma or has he been stationed elsewhere? Is he seeing anyone else? This may seem like a nosey he said she said sort of question, but I think it may be important to know if he has moved on.

    Those are my starting blocks.

    I don't think that Maura disappeared on her own accord. There is something very wrong here, and it has nothing to do with her family.
    I know she lied about why she took off for a week, but to think that her family would have automatically found out about that is crazy. She had her cell phone with her so she was reachable by her family. She was 22, it's not like she needed a note from her dad to miss class. Perhaps she just needed time away alone to think. It seems to me that she was losing her way. I think she was confused about what she wanted out of life, and she was scared of that. So why did she pack up her room? Maybe she wasn't sure what was going to happen when she got back. Maybe she didn't think that she would opt to stay at UMass. and just wanted to have everything ready for when she got back. Honestly it sounds like she was "stir crazy" just before she left because she knew she had to get away and think FOR A WEEK, and just wanted to have everything set for whatever her week of decisions led her to choose to do. In the end, I don't think she had that choice.

    These are some of my rantings, I am sure I will have more.
    Pray for Maura


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    Help - question: Has it ever been confirmed that she packed up her room before she left? I thought that people close to her said her room looked packed up because she had just moved in a couple weeks before and hadn't unpacked yet.

    This seems like an important point to clarify.
    IMHO


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    I was wondering the same thing! Most Cadets, graduated or not, have it drilled into their heads to be neat freaks (I am married to a class of 99 graduate, and dated a class of 02 Cadet while he was still a Cadet, he transferred out). If she hadn't had the time to unpack and put things on her walls, etc, then I can easily see where her room might look as though she had packed before leaving.

    Quote Originally Posted by tuppence
    Help - question: Has it ever been confirmed that she packed up her room before she left? I thought that people close to her said her room looked packed up because she had just moved in a couple weeks before and hadn't unpacked yet.

    This seems like an important point to clarify.


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    links to info

    The point of packing or unpacking was discussed quite a bit.
    One set of exchanges on the subject are found
    Starting at post #186 of the part 2 discussion of Maura Murray
    and going to about post #198
    http://websleuths.com/forums/showthr...3&page=3&pp=40

    Also some of my remarks in that exchange refer back to some posts
    that start at post #120 going to post #128
    http://websleuths.com/forums/showthr...3&page=4&pp=40

    Whether or not anyone agrees with my own particular thoughts on the case:
    In the posts 120-128 I cite sources and provide links for the facts used in the posts and
    the underlined links may prove helpful in discussions about various asects of the case.


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    Dear AW210,

    your questions are crucial.

    Sharon, Lt Rausch's Mother, did detail and rebut the early stories in the papers that Maura left a suicide note on top of her stuff in her room--there were only letters from Lt R to her.

    See her note as a link to an article in the Daily Collegian late (Sept?) 2004.

    Peabody on this site in November replied to me & DocWho about her leaving West Point in Jan 2002 because she did not want to do the five years of regular army duty required upon graduation.

    Lt Rausch graduated from the Academy in summer 2002 and is still stationed at Ft Sill doing his regular duty.

    I have questioned both on this site and on the MauraMurray site whether she in fact really wanted to be an "Army wife" if you know what I mean. Her sister Julie graduated in summer 2002 as well, and had introduced her to Lt R, so Maura certainly understood that if she stayed with Lt R she would in some way be continuing with Army life even if she was not herself RA.

    I have supposed she was having a crisis about these issues and wanted to get away for a few days after cracking up her Dad's car--but was in conflict and had ambivalent feelings about returning to or leaving UMA.

    But we don't know after two years what really happened to her, and her reasons for leaving UMA or her state of mind may be unrelated to whatever happened to her after the accident with her 96 Saturn in NH.


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    Cool

    ok so Maura left in January of 02. I can understand not wanting to finish out her WP career, it's a big commitment. Also, as my husband says, West Point is an Excellent school to have come from but it's not always an Excellent school to be grinding your way through. And he is a die hard optimist who believes that life is what you make of it and everything can be either good or bad, depending on what you want it to be. Not only are the academics very high standard, the honor code is high, very strict, and very expected. Also you are doing full time training to become an officer of the United States Army. Those coming from WP are expected to be the best of the best. Because her boyfriend got through WP, he had to have a high level of integrity. I don't believe that if there was anything "shady" about her that he would have wanted to be with her. I also don't believe that he could not have known. If he made it through West Point, he is not lacking intellectually.
    I checked through my AKO account and he is still stationed here at Ft Sill, just in a different unit than my husband.
    I don't believe, for the life of me, that Maura just up and left on her own accord.
    The girl had nothing, barely any money, etc. AND she had a strong sense of responsibility. Because she didn't graduate from West Point, she would automatically owe them money for the time that they had educated her. This can easily be deferred until which time she finished school elsewhere and could pay it so that wasn't a pressure point, but it is a responsibility that I don't believe that she would just walk away from.
    I don't see anything being wrong with her father just assuming the worst. I mean he knows her better than most people do and knows she wouldn't just flee. Some people refuse to let go to someone who has disappeared, but there are some that are just realists. Their form of functioning is to just grasp at the realistics of the situation.
    What do you guys think?


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