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    I wonder how thoroughly Hadden Clark was investigated for this case. I know he is listed as a person of interest. He seems like a possibility for a lot of unsolved murders.

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    Fred Coffey

    Fred Coffey has been denied parole again (thank God), in N.C. Most parole boards receive 3 to 5 letters concerning parole. In this case in this year, they received 300 letters. Amanda Rays' Mom made a plea to the public to help keep Coffey in jail. It worked! (Amanda Ray is the little girl in NC Coffey was convicted of killing).

    I would like to say 'good job' to Amanda Rays' Mom, & may God be with you. Also, we are trying to link Coffey to several murders & missing children cases here in Md., if you have any helpful information please feel free to 'post' or even send me a private message. Thank you much.

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    Coffey, Jr., Fred H. 707: July 2007 Parole Hearing Results

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeb View Post
    Fred Coffey has been denied parole again (thank God), in N.C. Most parole boards receive 3 to 5 letters concerning parole. In this case in this year, they received 300 letters. Amanda Rays' Mom made a plea to the public to help keep Coffey in jail. It worked! (Amanda Ray is the little girl in NC Coffey was convicted of killing).

    I would like to say 'good job' to Amanda Rays' Mom, & may God be with you. Also, we are trying to link Coffey to several murders & missing children cases here in Md., if you have any helpful information please feel free to 'post' or even send me a private message. Thank you much.
    Here is some recent internet information regarding Fred Howard Coffey, Jr. and his July 2007 Parole Hearing:
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    Coffey, Jr., Fred H. 707

    Fred Howard Coffey, Jr.

    Conviction: First Degree Murder
    DOC# 0081135
    Parole Review Date: 7-24-07
    Sentence: LIFE
    Has Served: 20 yrs 6 mth to date

    Crime Story

    The body of a ten year old female was found in a wooded area near a lake in Mecklenburg County on July 19, 1979. An autopsy revealed that she had a black eye, bruises and had died of asphyxiation. An investigation began immediately which produced several witnesses linking the victim with someone watching the defendant's description.

    The investigation continued for several years eventually revealing that dog hairs on the defendant's couch and in the defendant's van matched dog hairs found on the victim's clothing when her body was found.Fred Howard Coffey was questioned about the death of the victim and was subsequently charged.

    Coffey was convicted of first degree murder and sentenced to death. On appeal, Coffey was re-sentenced to LIFE in prison.

    Source:
    Coffey, Jr., Fred H. 707

    LINK:
    http://www.charmeck.org/Departments/...Howard+707.htm

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    (Below is a copy of a recent letter sent to the North Carolona Parole Commission)

    Chairman Charles L. Mann, Sr.
    NC Post Release Supervision & Parole Commission
    P.O. Box 29540
    Raleigh, NC 27626-0540

    Re: Parole Protest for Fred Howard Coffey Jr, DOC #0081135

    To Whom It May Concern:

    Fred Howard Coffey, Jr’s attack and murder of innocent, defenseless 10 year old Amanda Marie Ray in 1979 speaks loudly and clearly against releasing him from prison to kill, molest and rape again. The public record of his behavior before the murder for which he was convicted and many other crimes (including 5 other murders); which he is a suspect add strong logic for a decision AGAINST releasing Fred Coffey.

    Much of what is known about Coffey’s past speaks convincingly AGAINST his release, and there is nothing in his past record that argues persuasively for his release. THIS MAN HAS NOT BEEN REHABILITATED. Coffey was not brought to justice for this murder until 1986. Two separate juries sentenced him to death, until, on a technicality, the sentence was over-turned and Coffey now serves a life sentence. That fact alone makes a strong case for never allowing him to serve less than his “Life Sentence”. In Fred Howard Coffey’s case, a life sentence should mean prison for the rest of his life.

    Even serving the remainder of his life behind bars will never seem a sufficient penalty for taking Amanda’s life. Any less than that would be an injustice that Amanda’s family and his potential victims should he be released into society, should not have to bear.

    Sincerely,

    Cc: Governor Michael F. Easley
    Office of the Governor
    20301 Mail Service Center
    Raleigh, NC 27699-0301

    LINK:
    http://www.network-share.com/files/6...ffeyParole.doc

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    (This is from another website regarding Fred Coffey's July 2007 Parole Hearing)

    ... 7/25/07 * UPDATE: I received word from Amanda's family today with good news...

    "Fred Coffey's parole was DENIED for this year..."

    "The average inmate up for parole receives 3-5 letters in his/her file per year.... Fred Coffey has several hundred letters in his file this year!

    Each letter was placed on the table at the parole review and was in plain sight during their decision making process. This speaks volumes to them that we, as a community, protest Coffey's release.

    Our heartfelt thanks goes out to each and every one of you who sent letters to the commission in protest. We could not have done this without you." - Amanda's Family

    Source:
    Crime in Charlotte, NC

    LINK:
    http://www.crimeincharlotte.com/2007...hind-bars.html

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    Connection between Mileski and Coffey?

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    Raymond Rudolph MILESKI, Sr.

    Raymond Rudolph Mileski Sr. is a convicted murderer serving a life sentence in the Maryland Prison system. He is linked to the Lyon Sisters, because of claims that he has made on several occasions. Those stories have some varience to them, but basically Ray states that he knows who the abductor/murderer of the girls is. ...

    Mileski, while in prison, had evidently told a story to other convicts that he knew who had abducted and killed the Lyon Sisters, ...

    Mileski, contacted in Prison in 2001, admitted in two letters that he did in fact know who the abductor of the Lyon Sisters was....

    Mileski, in his second letter, referred to the girls' abductor as "C.D." and claimed to have met this individual "in the pen". ....

    I have had doubts as to whether Mileski ever had anything to do with the Lyon Sisters disappearance, but there are a number of rather intriguing coincidences between his story and that of Fred Coffey, Jr.

    Mileski claimed to have met the girl's abductor, whom he referred to as "C.D." while "in the pen".

    I have never been able to find out if the two ever spent time together in a Maryland prison, but of note is Mileski referring to the girls' abductor as "C.D."

    Fred Coffey's nickname was "Chick" and he sometimes referred to himself as "Chick Davis". Davis was his mother's last name.

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    Richard, obviously I share your doubts.

    However, coffey may admit to bogus crimes to get a better plea bargin.

    We are all innocent, including Coffey, until proven guilty. In this case, he has to be proven in a court of law to be the TRM, (but the TRM has been proven to be nothing, yet.). Phase 1.

    Phase two, then, the TRM would have to be proven. in a court of law in the United States, to be the killer. For a prosecutor, it could involve 2 seperate trials.

    A lot of people are getting the quality of this, thanks for the messages.

    The TRM theory hangs on the fact that a lot of people saw this person(s) in the area around the general time. Otherwise, Nada!

    The Perch theory, fits a lot of profiles, locations, behavioral patterns, etc.

    Hence, why try to force everyone to believe this was Coffey and redirected the case?? ie force Coffey down our throats???

    Richard, are you doing this? From your previous post, it doesn't seem like it. However, you do, my friend, have to take a position; othewise become a professional fact gatherer and moderator.....

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    Theories and Scenarios

    Quote Originally Posted by joefriday View Post
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    The Perch theory, fits a lot of profiles, locations, behavioral patterns, etc.

    Hence, why try to force everyone to believe this was Coffey and redirected the case?? ie force Coffey down our throats???

    Richard, are you doing this? From your previous post, it doesn't seem like it. However, you do, my friend, have to take a position; othewise become a professional fact gatherer and moderator.....
    I don't think that anyone on this board is trying to force their beliefs or theories on anyone. Some theories may seem stronger than others, and some may be subject to more discussion, but as you have mentioned, none have ever been proven.

    As I have stated many times, there is a wide range of possibility concerning this case - more than in others because of the lack of forensic evidence or of any bodies.

    Pearch was by all accounts a Mass Murderer. No doubt about that, even though his "trial" was conducted in the streets and justice administered via police shotgun blast. He was a strange and ultimately a violent guy, but there is no evidence of him being a pediphile or child murderer. And no evidence that he ever stepped over the line prior to his rampage in April 1975.

    Coffey, on the other hand is a convicted pediphile, child abductor, and child murderer. The fact that his crimes extend over a range of years and locations, would make him a Serial molester, and repetitive criminal, capable of murder. There is little doubt in my mind that he killed children on other occasions as well - but that is just my own opinion about him.

    Both of these individuals were in the Wheaton, Maryland area around the time that the Lyon Sisters disappeared, but neither has ever been placed at Wheaton Plaza on the day in question by any witness, or through any sort of evidence which identifies either one.

    They might both have been there that day, or perhaps neither was there. One fact is that a boy saw his friends Sheila and Katherine talking to a man whom he did not know. The man was wearing a brown suit, and holding a microphone, and he had a tape recorder with him, which had been in a tan briefcase. Whether that "Tape Recorder Man" had anything to do with their subsequent disappearance is debatable, but certainly such a "coincidence" must be accounted for. He was there. Who was he?

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    Possible perpetrator traits...

    Here are some observations that I have compiled, which might help to categorize/ recognize a potential suspect in the case of Sheila and Katherine Lyon's disappearance, as well as some of the other cases which are suggested as possibly being related to the case.


    - Probably male
    - Age from 29 to 55 in 1975.
    - Well practiced in abduction of children and young adults by 1975.
    - Not a particularly large or imposing person.
    - The perpetrator seems to be well organized.
    - Follows the news media.
    - Constantly on the move and always hunting for victims.
    - Geographically/Occupationally mobile.
    - Possible Military background experience.
    - Drives a motor vehicle, probably several with high milage.
    - Employs seduction leading to restraints.
    - Kills at one site, disposes at another.
    - Leaves controlled crime scenes.
    - Leaves little physical evidence.
    - Probably has an IQ above average (105-120 range).
    - Probably has a history of family abuse (physical, mental, sexual).
    - May be college educated.
    - Has excellent communications skills.
    - Skilled in diverse areas of expertise.
    - Can appear very personable, friendly, outgoing, persuasive.
    - Socially adequate, appears very normal in his every day life.
    - Lives with partner or dates frequently - can carry on a "normal" routine.
    - Likely has good hygiene/ grooming/ housekeeping skills.
    - Has comfortable patterns or habits in every day life.
    - Can be creative in his approach to victims. Probably rehearses a new technique before employing it.
    - Regarding LE, He may be a Police groupie or wannabe, may contact them with false leads or offers to "help" in the search.
    - Probably had numerous run-ins with the law in regard to inappropriate behavior with or around children by 1975.
    - May have a strong urge or need to return to a crime scene to see what police have done - or to relive his deeds.
    - Might keep a souvineer from a victim, or might be very careful to resist the urge.
    - Personalizes victims, holds conversations.
    - He is a practiced liar and could probably beat a polygraph test.
    - Responds best to direct interviews.

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    Unknown Suspect dubbed the Pennsylvania Strangler (1976-1977)

    Although the victims of this Never Identified Suspect were somewhat older than the Lyon sisters, this series of related homicides were very close in time and geographical vicinity to Montgomery County, Maryland, and also to other possibly connected disappearances discussed in these threads.

    The below crimes were linked based on forensic evidence found with the victims and at the crime scenes. That, in itself, sets these crimes apart from the disappearance of the Lyon girls and other similar disappearances, as there simply was no forensic evidence in most of those cases.

    This serial killer seems to have appeared in 1976 and disappeared after 1977. Where was he before and after those dates?

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    Unknown Suspect dubbed the Pennsylvania Strangler (1976-1977)

    In a period of seven months, between November 1976 and June 1977, five young women were raped and murdered within a 25-mile radius of Washington, Pennsylvania, their killer striking with impunity and leaving homicide investigators at a loss for clues.

    Despite a fair description of the suspect, published in the form of artist's sketches, there were no arrests, and none are now anticipated in a case that terrorized the peaceful border region, holding women prisoners of fear inside their homes.

    The first to die was 21-year-old Susan Rush, a native of Washington County, found strangled and locked in the trunk of her car on November 25, 1976. Detectives noted that her body had been "hastily clothed," her bra and panties left on the front seat, and a post mortem examination confirmed that the victim was raped prior to death.

    On February 13, 1977, 16-year-old Mary Gency was reported missing from her home in North Charleroi. She had gone out for a walk after supper and never returned, her body recovered three days later from the woods at Fallowfield Township. Gency was beaten to death with a blunt instrument, raped before death by an assailant the county coroner described as "a mad animal."

    Debra Capiola, 17, was last seen alive on March 17, walking to meet her school bus in nearby Imperial, in Allegheny County. She never arrived at school, and searchers found her body in a wooded section of northwestern Washington County on March 22. Capiola had been raped before she was strangled with her own blue jeans, the pants left wrapped around her neck.

    Two months later, on the afternoon of May 19, 18-year-old Brenda Ritter was found dead at South Strabane Township, in Washington County. Nude except for shoes and stockings, she had been raped, then strangled with a piece of her own clothing, tightened around her throat with a stick.

    In June, the killer strayed from Pennsylvania, but he did not travel far. His final victim was Roberta Elam, 26, a novice at Mount St. Joseph Mother House, in Oglebay Park, West Virginia, near Wheeling. Preparing to take her vows as a nun, Elam's career was cut short by the savage who raped and strangled her on June 13, dumping her corpse within 75 yards of the convent.

    On the afternoon of June 15, authorities released a sketch of a longhaired suspect seen near the Ritter homicide scene, but none of the resultant tips proved fruitful. When the murder series ended, as mysteriously as it had begun, police could only speculate about the strangler's identity and whereabouts.

    Unless deceased or jailed on unrelated charges, he is still at large today.

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    Fred Coffey's Parole Denied - Again.

    Fred Coffey was up for parole again last month as he has been every year since his Death Sentence was overturned in 1995. Once again, his parole has been denied and he will continue to live at North Carolina tax payer expense at Pender Prison.

    Below is a message from the family of Amanda Ray, the little 10-year-old girl that Coffey murdered in 1979. At the link below, you can see a photo of Amanda Ray and one of Fred Coffey.

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    UPDATE JULY 30, 2008 - PAROLE HAS AGAIN BEEN DENIED FOR COFFEY !

    Our family has just learned that parole has been denied this year for Fred Howard Coffey, jr., the murderer of my daughter, Amanda Ray.

    I want to express my heartfelt thank you and those of my family for your part in writing letters to the parole board urging denial of his parole. The Parole Commission is very guarded about what they can release, but we were told that it was evident that there had been a "concerted effort put forth". These letters DO count and are given weight in the Parole Commission's decision.

    My family and I appreciate everything everyone has done on Amanda's behalf. This is a tragedy which should never have occurred, but unfortunately it does, much too often and children are being abused and murdered almost on a daily basis. At least this individual is behind bars and hopefully will never be able to hurt another child.

    Again... Thank you for your letters. We have been overwhelmed with the response and sincerely appreciate your concern and compassion. It is a great comfort and means so much to Amanda's family.


    Source:
    Give Amanda Marie Ray a Voice!

    LINK:
    http://justice4amanda.tripod.com/

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    Thanks for the post. He needs to die in prison.


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    Jeb discovered NC Dept of Correctiuons has posted an updated picture of Fred Coffey on their website. Obviously, the picture is distorted by the newer technology of the day but even so...here is uncanny proof of Coffey's cameleon appearance in that his face looks longer than the previous picture and corresponds with the 1986 or 1987 photos of him (2) in the police car when he was arrested or being taken to jail where his face also looks longer than the Vitro picture and some of the pictures on the Amanda Ray website where he's sitting at the table with his lawyer. Looking closer one can see faint spots on his forehead and a darker spot on HIS LEFT check. My question might be...could this spot have moved down his check from the area of the corner of his left eye?

    Another fact of concern appearing on NC Dept of Corrections website: someone has done a survey of inmates because the age of inmates has been increasing in the last few years for people 50 years of age and above which also has increased the financial burden on the prison system due to health and emotional problems, necessary prescriptions, medical treatment in and out of the prison and so on. Recommendations have been made that some prisoners be considered for release based on their physical, medical conditions called "compassinate...". Just being in prison takes a toll on inmates, also mentioned in the report. Fred Coffey does not look healthy in this new photo and in fact his appearance is worrisome. I, for one, feel that...IF...he's responsible for the disappearance of any of the children in MD and PA during the time frame of 1975...as long as he's alive there is always a chance he might tell where they are. His appearance has detiorated since the last one.

    Another thing about this photo is there's almost a look of being lost on his face. This is similar to what I saw around the eyes of TRM in 1975. Maybe the pressure of letters to the parole board has put him under pressure and they just happened to take the new photo during that time frame. I would think...if he doesn't know about this website or how much his name appears on the web he should be dumbfounded as well as disturbed as to why and how so many people have found out about him and have sent letters to the parole board.
    Last edited by ShurlT; 09-17-2008 at 10:04 AM. Reason: corrections and extensions of information before computer kick out.

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    I'm sorry but this SOB Fred Coffey's report status states he's in 'general population'??? IF these prisoners knew this freak was a child rapist killer, he would not be safe at all in prison general population. This just infuriates me that this guy is breathing let alone allowed to apply for parole!
    Only my opinion, no one else need agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Here are some observations that I have compiled, which might help to categorize/ recognize a potential suspect in the case of Sheila and Katherine Lyon's disappearance, as well as some of the other cases which are suggested as possibly being related to the case.


    - Probably male
    - Age from 29 to 55 in 1975.
    - Well practiced in abduction of children and young adults by 1975.
    - Not a particularly large or imposing person.
    - The perpetrator seems to be well organized.
    - Follows the news media.
    - Constantly on the move and always hunting for victims.
    - Geographically/Occupationally mobile.
    - Possible Military background experience.
    - Drives a motor vehicle, probably several with high milage.
    - Employs seduction leading to restraints.
    - Kills at one site, disposes at another.
    - Leaves controlled crime scenes.
    - Leaves little physical evidence.
    - Probably has an IQ above average (105-120 range).
    - Probably has a history of family abuse (physical, mental, sexual).
    - May be college educated.
    - Has excellent communications skills.
    - Skilled in diverse areas of expertise.
    - Can appear very personable, friendly, outgoing, persuasive.
    - Socially adequate, appears very normal in his every day life.
    - Lives with partner or dates frequently - can carry on a "normal" routine.
    - Likely has good hygiene/ grooming/ housekeeping skills.
    - Has comfortable patterns or habits in every day life.
    - Can be creative in his approach to victims. Probably rehearses a new technique before employing it.
    - Regarding LE, He may be a Police groupie or wannabe, may contact them with false leads or offers to "help" in the search.
    - Probably had numerous run-ins with the law in regard to inappropriate behavior with or around children by 1975.
    - May have a strong urge or need to return to a crime scene to see what police have done - or to relive his deeds.
    - Might keep a souvineer from a victim, or might be very careful to resist the urge.
    - Personalizes victims, holds conversations.
    - He is a practiced liar and could probably beat a polygraph test.
    - Responds best to direct interviews.
    Is this a standard profile for someone who has committed this type of crime?
    How do characteristics such as good hygiene, and housekeeping skills play into this profile? And lives with a partner or dates frequently? As well as comfortable patterns in everday life (I'm not even sure what that means)?
    The rest of the list I understand, but these seem like random qualities to assign to a profile of a child abductor/killer. . .
    Children don't stop dancing

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    Profile of the abductor...

    Quote Originally Posted by SharetheLight View Post
    Is this a standard profile for someone who has committed this type of crime?
    How do characteristics such as good hygiene, and housekeeping skills play into this profile? And lives with a partner or dates frequently? As well as comfortable patterns in everday life (I'm not even sure what that means)?
    The rest of the list I understand, but these seem like random qualities to assign to a profile of a child abductor/killer. . .
    I wrote the quoted post about a year ago, so had to look it over again to refresh my own memory. Most of it is "standard" statements for an organized pedophile and child killer. Pretty much the same sort of statements made by various profilers for the FBI and other law enforcement agencies.

    But in this case, I tailored it to this specific case based on all that is known about it and the events surrounding it.

    Good hygene and housekeeping skills are indicative of an organized, careful person. Patterns are very important also to an organized person, they just do certain things in set ways, and live in a comfort zone - one which they can return to after committing a crime against a child.

    These various qualities and observations were compiled after numerous interviews of convicted child killers and molesters and they tend to be traits which turned up often.

    Although the FBI likes to stress the scientific approach to evidence gathering and suspect development, Profiling is much more of an art than a science and it is a fairly recent (and still very controversial) tool for crime solving.

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    Great work with the profile. Very thorough. Thanks for the explanation, I understand your method of compiling this list.
    I started a new thread -What Happened Next- and am using this profile to try to brainstorm about what this type of person would do next. Where would he go?
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