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    I hope this guy was stupid enough to make some calls on the missing cell phone.

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    The interview with Jennifer's brother, Logan, on WESH TV (channel 2 news) that aired yesterday evening had me thinking of alternate scenarios.

    Apparently Logan had been using & in possession of "a friend's cell phone" that he said he left on Jen's nightstand. When he realized he had left it there - he called her & requested that she 'overnight the phone' to his friend (because it was his fault!) and he gave her the mailing address.

    This call to Jen had to have occurred on Monday - probably in the evening. She spoke on the phone with her boyfriend at 10 pm. As brother Logan wanted the phone "overnighted" - I'm wondering if Jennifer didn't attempt to make the relatively short trek out to the airport area where there is a huge Fed Ex, UPS & an extended hours main post office. The plus for that decision is that there is much less traffic & congestion late at night - not to mention no long wait lines for counter help & one's package can be on a plane the same night. I've made that late-nite trek to FedEx a number of times and honestly do not recommend it for any woman all by herself.

    If Jen already had the packing materials and proper postage or an acct. with UPS or FedEx - she could have simply gone out and looked for a more localized drop box. Perhaps, that's what she did.

    I'm remembering that she did not answer her phone at 9 am - did not have her usual 'before work' conversation with her boyfriend that morning. Somehow - I do not think Jen was abducted from her apt. I think "something happened to her" after she left to mail that cell phone for her brother.

    Robbery for drug money? Sexual assault? Murdered - because she fought back? I don't know - I hope not. (Her parents are convinced she's alive!) I do know that there are a lot of unsavory areas out that way that I would never want to traverse alone - but, especially at night.

    I'm also wondering why Logan & his friends were staying in Jen's new condo while she was on vacation with her boyfriend?

    Where does Logan normally live?

    Why was Logan utilizing 'a friend's cell phone'? He doesn't have his own phone??

    If he's 'local' - why didn't he go back over to the condo and retrieve the forgotton cell phone on his own & make the effort to mail it back to "his friend"? He clearly said it was 'his fault' that "he" left it there - not that his friend left it there. JMO - but, he sounded rather irresponsible to me.

    The family - parents & Logan, are still asking in news conferences here locally that the perpetrator just let Jen go. The latest community search began again this morning at 8:30 - a beautiful morning, great weather. Turned windy & rainy this afternoon and temps are dropping.

    The Kesse family interview taped by Larry King Live several days ago (when it was preempted by breaking news of a possible poisonous agent in the attic of a Senate office building) was aired last night in the 9 pm & midnight time slots. It was the first 8 minutes of the program. The 3 am show preempted the Kesse segment altogether as CNN was continuously following the breaking news story of Israeli PM Sharon's most recent setback & surgery.

    I'm not aware what the funds are being used for but, the family is requesting donations to the Jennifer Kesse trust fund - at any Bank of America location.

    WFTV - (9 Investigates) uncovered information that Orlando based "Child Watch of North America" utilizes 91% of all their donations to cover their own salaries. They (Child Watch) were soliciting donations when I was there last weekend - prior to the "9 Investigates" report being aired. Don't know about now. Will post link later if I can find one.


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    I just reviewed the interview Logan gave on a different channel - WFTV. In this 'later' interview - Logan says that his friend left behind the now missing cell phone and he just contacted Jen on Monday evening for her to mail it to his friend. Said Jen would do it the following day. The cell phone was never received by the "friend". So -- who knows which story is factually correct or even if it matters. Either way - Jennifer is still missing.

    Logan also said Jen had driven back from Ft. Lauderdale on Monday morning & went straight to work - not returning to her condo until that evening. Said that Jen & her boyfriend had been together for about a year and were very much in love. One of the family members (Mom?) said on LKL that Jen & her boyfriend traveled back & forth between Lauderdale & Orlando each weekend - and that "he" was as devastated as they were.


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    Child Watch - 9 Investigates Report



    Organization Involved In Missing Woman Search Has Faced Criticism


    UPDATED: 5:21 pm EST
    February 6, 2006

    ORLANDO, Fla. -- 9 Investigates has discovered the group that organized the February 4-5 weekend search for Jennifer Kesse has drawn critical attention from a non-profit watchdog group.

    Child Watch of North America is based in Orlando. Records uncovered by Channel 9 show most of the money the group raises pays for salaries, not searches.

    Child Watch of North America signed up volunteers to help search for Jennifer Kesse, and founder Don Wood was front and center at some of news conferences.

    Thursday, they were even collecting checks for the Jennifer Kesse Search Fund made out to Child Watch of North America. That has since been changed.

    A report uncovered by 9 Investigates may make donors to Child Watch think twice.

    The Wise Giving Alliance, part of the Better Business Bureau, found Child Watch doesn't meet nine different standards for charitable giving.

    The group found there is no board of directors providing oversight, no audited financial statement to inspect and no annual report.

    Don Wood said it was not a big deal.

    "I don't think it was complaints. It was more suggestions on how we should set up," he said.

    The most recent tax return for Child Watch of North America also raises eyebrows at the Wise Giving Alliance. It shows that for every dollar they collected in 2004, 91 cents went to salaries.

    Wise Giving said a well-run charity would be about three times that.

    Wood said Child Watch lost much of its funding in recent years and it severely affected their finances.

    On their Web site, Child Watch lists Staples as a corporate sponsor. A spokeswoman said the relationship ended two years ago.

    Wood said his group hasn't been promised money for organizing the Kesse search. He's leaving any contribution to Child Watch up to the Kesse family.

    It's important to point out that the Jennifer Kesse Search Fund is being set up and it will be controlled by the family, not by Child Watch of North America.

    Also, a family friend sought out the group to help in the search. Child Watch of North America did not approach the Kesses.

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    This is something I have been worrying about. Since TexasEquuSearch has been in the news so much that smaller organization would start cropping up. Unfortunately, we know that people will use many ways to make money that are not always for the public good. Thanks for bringing this to our attention.

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    thank you 13th juror--very informative about child watch.

    i just hate greed in the time of need.

    here is link to LKL show: transcripts


    http://talkshows.about.com/gi/dynami...PTS%2Flkl.html

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    I am thinking that she either left something in the condo, left the car unlocked while she went back up to retrieve it, or got out to mail the phone, left the car unlocked and someone go in there. Basically this all happened within a mile of her home.

    I wish there was more information available about local drop boxes. I think it would serve the investigation well to be searching in those areas.

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    Negative. worked on shirt of second photo

    I'm not really thinking anything, but this one looks like a 6 on the sleeve and a P on the front of the shirt.
    Doc, if your looking at these see if you see anything there. Try using the negative.

    http://photobucket.com/albums/d179/K...rent=shirt.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beyond Belief
    Negative. worked on shirt of second photo

    I'm not really thinking anything, but this one looks like a 6 on the sleeve and a P on the front of the shirt.
    Doc, if your looking at these see if you see anything there. Try using the negative.

    http://photobucket.com/albums/d179/K...rent=shirt.jpg
    I think what you are seeing as a "6" is a mechinism on the gate. If you click to picture 7, you can see it, and to me it looks like it is part of the gate.

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    Ok.

    Does the second camera use the same monitor as the first camera, where you would be seeing close ups intermingled with the distance camera? Lots of unidentified images on this film.

    The reflection in the car window looks like the top of a six. That would give a direction of how the reflections are directed. I read this was 1 oclock not 12.

    I hope the films reveal his identity soon. I have faith they will.
    Going to work.

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    Looking for possible items along the roadside ...



    As per the local news channels here - the search this weekend took on a different direction.

    Volunteer searchers are not scouring the wooded areas, canals, lakes & such. Instead they have been directed to search the roadways and buffer zones along the roads. It's reported that they are looking for anything that may have been thrown out of the car. Discarded items like a purse, wallet, credit cards, cell phone, clothing, whatever ...

    Many other volunteers are going house-to-house passing out more flyers.

    Police & the Kesse parents said "they were very close to finding her" - whatever that means. They were emphasizing to the perpetrator(s) to release Jennifer now or make contact with them. Sounded very positive that Jen was alive & being held.

    News reports said that less than half of the 1100 volunteers returned to the search yesterday. They were hoping for a better turnout today as the weather is cool but really sunny & gorgeous. Temps dropping down to "freezing & below" over most of Florida tonight.

    That's all I can specifically remember from last night's TV newscasts.

    13th Juror - still praying for Jen & her family


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    http://www.wesh.com/news/6953952/detail.html

    Police Send Message To Public In Kesse Case

    Kesse Has Been Missing For 18 Days

    POSTED: 10:35 pm EST February 11, 2006
    UPDATED: 10:52 pm EST February 11, 2006


    ORLANDO -- In the continuing search to find Jennifer Kesse, Orlando police delivered a message to the public on Saturday.

    "Now is the time to distance yourself from the person that is responsible," said a police spokesperson.

    Orlando police hope this cryptic message will motivate the person who knows what happened to Jennifer Kesse.

    "If there are people out there that participated in this, you need to come forward or the deals are going to run out as time goes on," said the spokesperson. estigators hope the ultimatum will persuade anyone with information on the 24-year-old's disappearance to speak up.

    -continues

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    Any ideas on who they questioned, or who they think may be responsible? I'm anxious to find out.

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    Natalee's Mom reaches out to Jen's Mom ...



    No, CrimeHater - no names of those people questioned or polygraphed have been released to the public.

    Police will not say if they are looking for more than one suspect - however, their comments appear to be directed at "someone" who may have been there when Jennifer was abducted and encouraging that person "to do the right thing." Sounds like the LE folks "know something" the rest of us are not privvy to. I sure hope so!

    It was reported that LE feels there is a "Volusia County" connection. "An unnamed someone" was just questioned in Volusia Co. yesterday - that took place prior to LE saying at a WESH news conference that "they are very close to finding Jennifer" and (paraphrasing here) that someone's chances would run out if they did not come forward. Sounded ominous and directed to a known person.


    Dominos Pizza franchises in this area are now including a "Jennifer Kesse missing flyer" with every pizza delivered or picked up.

    An interesting tidbit on this evening's 5:30 WESH newscast ...

    Beth Holloway Twitty called Joyce Kesse last night to offer her support. Joyce said that Beth's message was "Never give up hope" and that their new jobs in life were now to find their daughters.


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    Well, I finally see something, that I know I can't read, but better equipment will be able too. That package/letter has an address on it. I can read the word FROM. and the word TO
    I printed it out. Looked like capital ? small letters t or ll Last J or Y or G cursive,a e, i, o, or u, then y or g. Just example. "Russell Gray or Jay" "Worrell Jay" , You probably won't be able to see this, put the general place to look.
    http://photobucket.com/albums/d179/K...nt=address.jpg

    I think its going to Tipton or something that Tipt... Maybe Georgia.

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    Orlando Police Raid Boarding House From "Tip"



    11 PM EST - WFTV Newscast - Update

    A phone call & a potential new lead in the search for Jennifer led police & swat team members to an Orange County home. But - the would-be rescue turned into a big letdown.

    WFTV (Channel 9) cameras were there as swat team members raided the 2 houses on 40th street near Rio Grande Ave. (BAD AREA!)

    A tip came in to the police communications unit this afternoon saying that Jennifer Kesse was alive and being held captive in a room in a boarding house. The detectives said the call was credible and had specific information but this turned out not to be true.

    The Orange Co. Swat Team raided room after room at the boarding house looking for Jen or any sign she had been there.

    An old man was interviewed - he said he hadn't seen her. The LE also checked an abandoned house right next door.

    Detective, when interviewed, said there was nothing to indicate that she was there. They are still checking things out & following up.

    The detective (Richard Ring?) took the call from the tipster at home this afternoon. Two other detectives met with the caller and the group decided the information was good. The raid was organized in just 4 hours.

    The detective said they were hoping for a "Cinderella ending" but it didn't happen. He said patrol officers have heard rumors on the street that Jennifer is still alive which does give him hope. Said "leads" are still coming in & that they were going to work this case to it's conclusion. Said they were hoping to find Jen alive but that they are prepared for whatever they run in to.

    The detective also stressed that there may be people involved in this that simply ended up in it without being "the main person" responsible. Detectives are urging those people to come forward now before it is too late.

    The Kesses asked the public to keep calling tips in even though many of them may turn out to be wrong. They stressed that they were not going away. Not going to stop looking for Jen.

    Drew said: New strategy starting today. Instead of relying on volunteers - the Kesse family wants businesses & groups to hand out flyers with pictures of Jennifer to clients & members. They are asking any company, group, church, etc to help distribute the information. Said they would deliver the flyers to those who called & offered help.

    The Kesses also spoke of the phone call from Beth Twitty and the comfort she gave them.

    Don't know if this story is on their website yet. I was typing as fast as I could while the segment was on so please excuse errors.

    Freezing temps here tonight - going to cover tender plants and gp back to the Olympics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 13th Juror


    11 PM EST - WFTV Newscast - Update

    A phone call & a potential new lead in the search for Jennifer led police & swat team members to an Orange County home. But - the would-be rescue turned into a big letdown.

    WFTV (Channel 9) cameras were there as swat team members raided the 2 houses on 40th street near Rio Grande Ave. (BAD AREA!)

    A tip came in to the police communications unit this afternoon saying that Jennifer Kesse was alive and being held captive in a room in a boarding house. The detectives said the call was credible and had specific information but this turned out not to be true.

    The Orange Co. Swat Team raided room after room at the boarding house looking for Jen or any sign she had been there.

    An old man was interviewed - he said he hadn't seen her. The LE also checked an abandoned house right next door.

    Detective, when interviewed, said there was nothing to indicate that she was there. They are still checking things out & following up.

    The detective (Richard Ring?) took the call from the tipster at home this afternoon. Two other detectives met with the caller and the group decided the information was good. The raid was organized in just 4 hours.

    The detective said they were hoping for a "Cinderella ending" but it didn't happen. He said patrol officers have heard rumors on the street that Jennifer is still alive which does give him hope. Said "leads" are still coming in & that they were going to work this case to it's conclusion. Said they were hoping to find Jen alive but that they are prepared for whatever they run in to.

    The detective also stressed that there may be people involved in this that simply ended up in it without being "the main person" responsible. Detectives are urging those people to come forward now before it is too late.

    The Kesses asked the public to keep calling tips in even though many of them may turn out to be wrong. They stressed that they were not going away. Not going to stop looking for Jen.

    Drew said: New strategy starting today. Instead of relying on volunteers - the Kesse family wants businesses & groups to hand out flyers with pictures of Jennifer to clients & members. They are asking any company, group, church, etc to help distribute the information. Said they would deliver the flyers to those who called & offered help.

    The Kesses also spoke of the phone call from Beth Twitty and the comfort she gave them.

    Don't know if this story is on their website yet. I was typing as fast as I could while the segment was on so please excuse errors.

    Freezing temps here tonight - going to cover tender plants and gp back to the Olympics.

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    Wow! I wonder if her parents were aware this was all going down? How stressful for them, and then to not find her. The police actually met with the tipster, so they know who he is. I am sure they will question him again. Could it be that whoever had her was tipped off and they moved her? Sounds like they are getting info. that she is alive, I hope so! Maybe if they go over that building with a fine tooth comb, they might find some evidence that she was there.

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    Kesse parents were 'in the loop' ..

    Quote Originally Posted by lostfaith

    Wow! I wonder if her parents were aware this was all going down? How stressful for them, and then to not find her.

    The police actually met with the tipster, so they know who he is. I am sure they will question him again.

    Could it be that whoever had her was tipped off and they moved her?

    Sounds like they are getting info. that she is alive, I hope so! Maybe if they go over that building with a fine tooth comb, they might find some evidence that she was there.



    Good afternoon, LostFaith & all

    Yes, the Kesse parents were aware of the tip 'in advance' and were waiting "very hopefully" at Jennifer's condo as the raid went down.

    And yes, I agree - that must have been extremely stressful for the Kesse family. My heart truly goes out to them! They are real troopers and seem to be staying strong & focused on the goal instead of falling apart. Exactly what Jennifer & the investigation needs right now - so, huge kudos to them!!

    One of the WFTV field reporters interviewed them after the tip turned up 'empty'. That's when they said they were still hopeful - they were NOT going away and asked the public to please continue to call in tips. Also gave the newest strategy info about businesses, corporations, churches & groups distributing their 'missing flyers'.

    I don't have answers to any other questions but I do agree with you that LE will certainly be following up closely with the tipster they met with on Sunday.

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    News story about the raid.

    http://www.wftv.com/news/7000940/detail.html


    Sgt. Ring spoke to the tipster himself Sunday afternoon. Two other detectives met with the caller in person. Four hours later, they raided the building. The tipster was so credible, they believed it was the information they'd been waiting for.

    Police said Kesse may still be alive. Detectives said patrol officers who work the street have heard talk that Kesse is still alive, which was why Sunday night's tip was treated with such urgency.

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    ORLANDO, Fla. -- Jennifer Kesse's family isn't giving up hope, but there will no longer be large volunteer searches. The Kesse family will instead rely more on businesses and groups to get the word out about Jennifer.



    http://www.wftv.com/news/7001133/detail.html

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    I hope and pray that Jennifer is still alive. If she is, I can't help but wonder how much longer she will remain that way if the perps are starting to feel the heat.

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    If she was abducted and being held somewhere what is the motive? Ransom, sex slave to some pervert? What I found odd in a recent report was LE claims word on the street is that she is alive. What does that mean? I'm well aware there are informants and what not but it goes right back to motive for me. Why would street people know anything about an abduction of someone like Jennifer? Surely they could know about the abductor but if they know the who have they told police and this is what the raid was about? I think so because of LE making a plea for anyone with knowledge but not involved in the crime to come forward. They seem like cryptic messages to me, they know the who and why but not where?

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    Jennifer's boyfriend - "Rob Allen" on news



    Good morning sleuthers

    As everyone knows, that has been following the case of Jennifer's disappearance - she & her boyfriend had just returned from a caribbean vacation in St. Croix, V.I.. That was on a Monday morning (3 weeks ago) before being reported "missing" on the following Tuesday morning.

    WKMG - local6.com - ran a film piece on the early evening news last night. It was an interview with 'Jen's Ft. Lauderdale boyfriend'. He has a name. "Rob Allen". (looks tall - 6 ft (?) and has a very short haircut, like a crewcut - blondish, I'd say.)

    Rob said he met Jen about a year ago in downtown Orlando and corresponded with her for awhile as the relationship grew. He said his interest started with her physical looks but that Jen was also very smart, very caring & compassionate. Rob said that Jen was his 'best friend' as well as his girlfriend.

    He said that they had a great vacation together and that Jen met a couple of his good friends. Said it's a totally relaxing time anytime he's in the islands. (I noticed that he's well-spoken & has a bit of a british (?) accent - not real prominent, but it's definitely there.)

    Rob said he was apparently the last known person to have talked with Jen. He called her Monday evening (10 pm) and that Jen was exhausted from the long day. They said they missed each other n' wished they were still in St. Croix spending time together. He said it was very frustrating that he can't call her - can't talk to her as well as can't hold her, kiss her.

    Rob still sends text messages every day to Jennifer's phone. Said maybe "force of nature" - it's therapeutic for him. Said - "I'm not stupid either - I know that there could be a negative outcome."

    Rob said he's not focusing on the 'unknown' and trying to stay positive. Said - every night when he goes to sleep, he thinks of Jen - "I think of times we've spent together and times we're going to spend together."

    Since Jen's disappearance, Rob has spent every weekend up here in Orlando with her family helping with the search. He said he will continue to do so until Jen is found or a conclusion is reached. Said - with Jen's disappearance - his nightmare is just beginning.

    Vanessa Medina conducted the interview that was clearly heavily edited. Many sound-bites taken from the whole.

    Also - news reported that many more 'tips' are coming in since the "raid" and police are busy following up on everything.

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    13th Juror...Thanks for taking the time to write about the interview!

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    This case is very puzzeling. Obviously those close to the case know something very specific. Old boyfriend perhaps? Or maybe someone from the neighborhood had seen her around, has a crush on her and told others, and LE is linking her disappearance to that?

    Her parents sounded almost positive she was ok and whoever just needs to release her.

    I hope she'll be alright.

    Thanks to all who've been keeping us updated.

    JMHO
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    Talking Thanks, LostFaith ...

    Quote Originally Posted by lostfaith

    13th Juror...Thanks for taking the time to write about the interview!


    You're most welcome, LostFaith. It's my pleasure.

    Actually, since I'm here in the local news area - I thought perhaps I could contribute whatever I viewed of the interviews & snippets that appear on TV on a daily basis. A news channel is always on somewhere in the house. <lol>

    Thank you for your thoughtful acknowledgement.

    13th Juror

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