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    Truth and Justice Podcast

    Guys, this has me SO excited. T&J is starting an investigation on the WM3 murders. They aren't the usual podcast. They crowd source to find info. They have uncovered a lot in the Adnan Syed case.
    I know right now they're asking for people who lived in the apartments near the woods to come forward.
    There is only one episode out. Instead of a timeline of D, J, and JM, they did a timeline of the boys which I found super interesting. I learned stuff that I overlooked or never really thought about.
    I'm really can't wait to see what direction this podcast host takes.

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    What you're dealing with is a horrendous crime. Three young boys murdered in cold blood. Just that alone upsets people. You look at the bodies and there are these savage injuries all over. It affects people emotionally and warps their judgement and then someone says, "Maybe it's satanic."

    And they say, "Well the only type of person who would do this would be someone like that."

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    Quote Originally Posted by missy_g View Post
    Guys, this has me SO excited. T&J is starting an investigation on the WM3 murders. They aren't the usual podcast. They crowd source to find info. They have uncovered a lot in the Adnan Syed case.
    I know right now they're asking for people who lived in the apartments near the woods to come forward.
    There is only one episode out. Instead of a timeline of D, J, and JM, they did a timeline of the boys which I found super interesting. I learned stuff that I overlooked or never really thought about.
    I'm really can't wait to see what direction this podcast host takes.

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    Yes!! I am so excited too!! This case when it first happened was what sparked my interest in true crime. I was a young teen when they tried and convicted D, J & JM and I canít believe what has transpired since then! Iíve always felt this was not investigated properly and have my suspicions on some of the family and members of the community.
    I also love this approach with the focus being on the actions of the three victims themselves. All of the documentaries are similar in how they seem to lack this approach. I strongly feel that this will be the key to finally bringing justice to these poor boys.
    T&J podcast has revolutionized the way true crime shows are structured.
    Strictly my opinion! MOO


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    I listened to the first episode, and to me, and it was no different than any other of the tons of podcasts I've listened to about the case -- but it's good that the case is still being talked about. At times, he gets names a bit mixed up and certain details I think (always thought PH walked -- i.e. not drove -- SB home from school; and she did so before a little before the dismissal bell rang).Anyway, I like how they are reaching out to previous tenants on facebook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Userid View Post
    I listened to the first episode, and to me, and it was no different than any other of the tons of podcasts I've listened to about the case -- but it's good that the case is still being talked about. At times, he gets names a bit mixed up and certain details I think (always thought PH walked -- i.e. not drove -- SB home from school; and she did so before a little before the dismissal bell rang).Anyway, I like how they are reaching out to previous tenants on facebook.
    I'm really liking it so far. I like the follow up episodes too.
    In the latest he talked about going to the actual evidence locker.
    I can't wait until he gets to the cried sourced stuff. He has people that lived in the apartments at that time.

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    What you're dealing with is a horrendous crime. Three young boys murdered in cold blood. Just that alone upsets people. You look at the bodies and there are these savage injuries all over. It affects people emotionally and warps their judgement and then someone says, "Maybe it's satanic."

    And they say, "Well the only type of person who would do this would be someone like that."

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    Quote Originally Posted by missy_g View Post
    I'm really liking it so far. I like the follow up episodes too.
    In the latest he talked about going to the actual evidence locker.
    I can't wait until he gets to the cried sourced stuff. He has people that lived in the apartments at that time.

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    I will say that I respect their attempts at actually recreating and experimenting with the crime scene (well, what's left of it, anyway). I watched the video they released about the path Bojangles would have to take from the crime scene to the restaurant -- where they used a drone and where they were shown to be actually in the bayou experimenting with a pig (which I hope they release that video). So yes, kudos to them for doing that -- they actually visit the area and scenes involved, and they should be commended.

    However, the actual podcast episodes, are nothing new; and their follow-ups consist of easy-layup questions. I understand they probably have to do this to fill in new listeners to the case, but nonetheless. Also, they do get certain elements wrong -- such as, the victims were not found in "Devil's Den," and also, RC and his friends didn't hear those 5 splashes anywhere near the pipe bridge -- they heard them near where the real Devil's Den was located, which was closer to the area where the boys were last seen entering (much farther east down the 10 Mile Bayou than the pipe bridge).

    But again, I do commend them for their experiments in the actual areas and I hope he does gain access to the evidence room; I just hope he knows what to look for and what's already been gathered from the evidence room (that's on Cally's). If he ends up going and grabs no new information (than what's already been accessed), it will be all for naught. Moreover, I hope he would release all the information he actually acquires, in an orderly way -- not just on his podcasts, but a website, etc.

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    He just released documents that were taken from the evidence room. The new episode is pretty interesting.

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    What you're dealing with is a horrendous crime. Three young boys murdered in cold blood. Just that alone upsets people. You look at the bodies and there are these savage injuries all over. It affects people emotionally and warps their judgement and then someone says, "Maybe it's satanic."

    And they say, "Well the only type of person who would do this would be someone like that."

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    ^ Yes, this was their best episode. It's ironic, because at the end, the host apologizes somewhat by saying this episode wasn't as interesting as the others. Anyways...

    Pretty certain some of this stuff is on Callahan's, so the host's declaration at the beginning that it's yet to be released isn't entirely accurate. I don't know if the entire 140 pages is on there, and I haven't gone through the report yet, but it seems like a lot of it is -- it's just that, isn't on there as one document; it's spread out on Cally's. Nonetheless, these guys are really trying and they're trying stuff that no other podcast has ever attempted before.

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    The new one is REALLY good.

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    What you're dealing with is a horrendous crime. Three young boys murdered in cold blood. Just that alone upsets people. You look at the bodies and there are these savage injuries all over. It affects people emotionally and warps their judgement and then someone says, "Maybe it's satanic."

    And they say, "Well the only type of person who would do this would be someone like that."

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    I listened to the 506 Follow-Up and I didn't like it. I thought the questions were very bad and relied on the host's conjecture too much. I hope 507 is better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Userid View Post
    I listened to the 506 Follow-Up and I didn't like it. I thought the questions were very bad and relied on the host's conjecture too much. I hope 507 is better.
    I don't listen to the followups. They're too redundant for me.

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    What you're dealing with is a horrendous crime. Three young boys murdered in cold blood. Just that alone upsets people. You look at the bodies and there are these savage injuries all over. It affects people emotionally and warps their judgement and then someone says, "Maybe it's satanic."

    And they say, "Well the only type of person who would do this would be someone like that."


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    Quote Originally Posted by missy_g View Post
    I don't listen to the followups. They're too redundant for me.

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    Bob Ruff did an interview with a non supporter a few weeks ago that was good. It was over 2 hours long but he held his own. It was the opperman report.

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    What you're dealing with is a horrendous crime. Three young boys murdered in cold blood. Just that alone upsets people. You look at the bodies and there are these savage injuries all over. It affects people emotionally and warps their judgement and then someone says, "Maybe it's satanic."

    And they say, "Well the only type of person who would do this would be someone like that."

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    Quote Originally Posted by missy_g View Post
    Bob Ruff did an interview with a non supporter a few weeks ago that was good. It was over 2 hours long but he held his own. It was the opperman report.

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    Do you have the link? I'm not seeing it on the truth and justice page.

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    You can find it at the Opperman report and look for podcasts. I thought it was a well done interview with two differing opinions yet both respecting each others opinion for the most part
    which is very rare in this polarizing case.

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    Here is the actual link for people:

    https://podtail.com/podcast/the-oppe...est-memphis-3/

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    I'm about half-way through the Opperman -- and I'm a fencie, so I'm probably biased here -- but Ruff is kind of annoying me at this point because he keeps doing this thing where he'll throw out a hypothetical, but then he'll say, "But I'm not saying that happened...". Well, yeah, you kind of are, by throwing it out there and when you're using a hypothetical to answer a question by Opperman. For example, Opperman asks him why JM would make those subsequent confessions (police car, bible, etc.). And Ruff answers (paraphrasing) that maybe he was offered a better deal by the officers who were driving him to the jail, but then he says, "But I'm not saying that happened." He does it at a lot of points.

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