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    Questions about Dr. Meyer

    I was just reading on the stungun thread and I noticed that some people refer to Dr. Meyer as the coronor and some refer to him as a forensic pathologist. Does anyone know for sure which he is? A coronor is an elected official, not always even an MD. A forensic pathogist has degrees in medicine and a specialty in pathology with a subspecialty in forensics. There is a huge difference between the two. IF he is indeed, the coronor and not a forensic pathologist, it would put a whole new spin on the autopsy findings, at least for me. I would have to rethink everything he said.

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    http://web.dailycamera.com/extra/ram...ses/meyer.html
    Boulder County Coroner John E. Meyer
    Age: 52


    Dr. John Meyer was elected coroner in 1986 the first time a physician was actually picked to hold that post in Boulder. Trained as a forensic pathologist, Meyer quickly revamped the coroner's office, which previously had been run by morticians.
    In the Ramsey case, Meyer ruled the slain girl's death a homicide more specifically, asphyxia due to strangulation. The coroner's findings, including any estimated time of death, will be crucial to any prosecution in the Ramsey case.

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    From what I know, Dr. Meyer's title is/was Medical Examiner (coroner). Perhaps that gives us a clue?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tipper
    http://web.dailycamera.com/extra/ram...ses/meyer.html
    Boulder County Coroner John E. Meyer
    Age: 52


    Dr. John Meyer was elected coroner in 1986 the first time a physician was actually picked to hold that post in Boulder. Trained as a forensic pathologist, Meyer quickly revamped the coroner's office, which previously had been run by morticians.
    In the Ramsey case, Meyer ruled the slain girl's death a homicide more specifically, asphyxia due to strangulation. The coroner's findings, including any estimated time of death, will be crucial to any prosecution in the Ramsey case.

    Thanks Tipper. That answers my question. He is both coroner and a trained forensic pathologist. Therefore, he probably knows what he is talking about when it comes to this case. That is not necessarily true because there are incomptetent people in all fields, but I am not going to assume that he is incompetent. So, I will take what he says in the autopsy report at face value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arielle
    He is both coroner and a trained forensic pathologist. Therefore, he probably knows what he is talking about when it comes to this case. That is not necessarily true because there are incomptetent people in all fields, but I am not going to assume that he is incompetent.
    Wrong assumption! Meyer is an incompetent buffoon. Many of the case problems that exist today were caused by Meyer. The man didn't even know enough to use a separate clipper on each fingernail to avoid cross contamination. He should have done a microscopic examination of EVERY mark on that girls body--he didn't. If he had, there would probably be no stungun debate. Maybe the marks on her back contain evidence that would reveal what caused them, like a splinter if they were caused by jabs from the paint stick.

    Even Meyer's cause of death makes no sense at all. How can you "associate" strangulation with head trauma? When you associate one thing with another it means they are related, like dying of "blood loss associated with gunshot wound".

    As far as this case goes, Meyer shares the same boat as Arndt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shylock
    As far as this case goes, Meyer shares the same boat as Arndt.
    No, he is not quite that bad. For a case that would obviously be scrutinized closely, he sure did a very-much less than thorough job though.

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    Given his situation, I think Dr. Meyer did the best he could under the circumstances. Cyril Wecht, if I recall correctly, even said he agreed with his work. If I had to fault Meyer, I only wish he'd have got to the place sooner (or had a replacement for himself) and that he'd done a temperature probe. So many faux pas in this case. I do hope that one day, something will show up that lets us know what happened to our precious child that fateful night.

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    I have always wondered why it took the coroner so long to get to the scene. Was there ever any explanation given for this?? Kathleen

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    Between the time JonBenet's body was found and when Dr. Meyer showed up around 8:30, her body was guarded by one of Meyer's assistants.

    We must remember that Dr. Meyer also took notes...which we are not privy to. He goes into much more detail of JonBent's autopsy...notes he said he would use should this case go to a court of law.
    ...We have said to ourselves, look, there is never going to be a victory in this, there is no victory...John Ramsey: 6/24/98

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    Here, here, Shylock -

    Meyer was incompetent.
    IMO -


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathleen
    I have always wondered why it took the coroner so long to get to the scene. Was there ever any explanation given for this?? Kathleen

    Pg 28, PMPT pb:

    Meanwhile, Detective Jim Byfield had obtained a search warrant, and by 8:00 P.M. the police were allowed to begin searching the crime scene. Twenty minutes after they began, coroner John Meyer arrived.

    Just my opinion.

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    Dr Meyer is a forensic pathologist and hardly a buffon. He's done thousands of autopsies and well trained for what he does.

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    I would never say he was a bufoon and I don't doubt his credentials or training, but I do think his performance in this case may have been less than stellar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toth
    I would never say he was a bufoon and I don't doubt his credentials or training, but I do think his performance in this case may have been less than stellar.
    I think his testimony at trial might exceed his written autopsy report. I hope we find out some day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LovelyPigeon
    Dr Meyer is a forensic pathologist and hardly a buffon. He's done thousands of autopsies and well trained for what he does.
    I guess you must be impressed by titles. Meyer made more mistakes on the case then can be counted. The man didn't even have the common sense to use a separate clipper on each fingernail to avoid cross contamination. Would you like to bet he didn't have the brains to use a CLEAN clipper either? That's probably where the DNA contamination came from.
    You want to find the donor of the "mysterous DNA" under JB's fingernails?--Check the janitor who cleans up in Meyer's lab. He probably spotted the clippers on a bench one night while cleaning and used then to trim a hang-nail.

    Meyer is an embarrassment to the field of forensic pathology.

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