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    CA - Sherri Papini, 34, Redding, 2 November 2016 - #23

    First and foremost Websleuths is a true crime discussion forum. A very close second is we are a victim friendly forum. Rarely do these two descriptions collide. In the Papini case, discussion forum and victim friendly forum smash head-on into each other.

    First and foremost we are a discussion forum.

    Because there are many mainstream media articles about the discrepancies in Sherri’s story, we must allow a discussion to contain opinions that Sherri is not truthful, and the next logical leap is we must allow the theory that Sherri is not telling the truth about her kidnapping.

    This is very difficult. We have the police saying they believe Sherri is telling the truth yet there are discrepancies.

    Not that this played any part in my decision on what to allow in the Papini discussion I can tell you I can’t find anyone who believes her other than a handful of posters on Websleuths.

    Let me just throw this out there…what if everyone is wrong? Can you imagine the pain?

    Before I tell you the rules for discussion Sherri’s case, I want to envision you are sitting with Sherri, her husband, and her CHILDREN, while you are telling them your theory. Keep that vision in your mind while you type your post.

    Whatever you choose to say (within TOS of course) you can do so in a kind and mature manner. With that in mind here is what is now open for discussion.

    *You can discuss the discrepancies in Sherri's statements, her husband's, or anyone else who has given a statement to the police.

    *You can discuss the discrepancies reported by the mainstream media. Example: Fox News Story http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/27...ing-claim.html

    *You can discuss, like a mature person who is expressing their opinion in front of the whole Papini family, why you believe Sherri Papini is not telling the truth. A side note if you want I would love to read your theories on why the police are so adamant she is telling the truth

    *You cannot use rumor and innuendo to explain your theory as to why Papini made up the kidnapping story. Must be fact-based. Meaning mainstream media and police sources.

    If everyone uses common sense and does not reduce this discussion to name calling and all kinds of other immature acts, we shouldn’t have a problem.

    Basing your opinion/posts on the facts in this case and doing so in a mature manner will mean the Papini thread will stay open. We shouldn't have any problems.

    http://fox8.com/2017/10/27/a-year-af...info-surfaces/

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    For anyone interested in pursuing human branding on a woman's left shoulder, there is a 1660's book entitled Seventeenth Century Life in the Country Parish. Here is a sample of an entry discussing one part of what it means (to the book):
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    This case utterly mystifies me. Clearly something happened that resulted in SP exhibiting injuries. Yet her story doesn't seem to add up. I am trying to imagine scenarios which would have caused her to be invested in deflecting attention from whatever really happened but I can only come up with speculation, which would not be appropriate to share here.

    I guess I also wonder if the police really do fully believe her story or are just being careful not to slander her - just in case. Discrepancies typically cause LE to cast a jaded eye on a case.

    She does appear to be a person who highly values a particular type of self image. So if this scenario involved something like an infidelity, maybe that would cause her to create a cover story. But her current image of someone who MAY BE untruthful and who MAY HAVE caused untold and unjustified fear and worry to her loved ones is not so hot. I wonder if she feels this is preferable to revealing something "imperfect" in her life. And if so, does this indicate her putting a lot of pressure on herself, or does she typically experience a lot of pressure and expectations from those around her? And what would happen if she violated such expectations, if they exist?

    I keep monitoring this thread not because I have anything to contribute, but because this is so odd and such a puzzler that I really hope we learn the truth one day. We all invested a lot of concern and brainpower while she was missing, not to mention the efforts expended by LE, and her friends and family. I can't really say we "deserve" answers but it sort of feels like we do (even though here on WS we volunteered and weren't required to care).

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    In the last thread there were posts about neighbors never seeing Sherri jogging. This neighbor say's she never saw Sherri jog or even go to the mailbox or seemingly anywhere.

    Betty Vaughn, 72, whose home overlooks the spot where Papini was allegedly kidnapped, told DailyMail.com that the discovery was 'strange'.

    'The phone was found with the headphones wrapped around it – it was strange, like it had been placed there,' she said.
    Asked if Papini was often seen in the area, she said: 'Not at all. I've never seen her jogging, never seen her coming up to the mailboxes.
    'I've been living here for 20 years so you would have thought I would have seen her at some point.'

    If you listen to Keith Papini's 911 call he tells the 911 dispatcher "She started running again." It appears she started jogging recently and that could be why the neighbors don't recall ever seeing her out running.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...s-recluse.html

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    I believe her. Branded, broken nose, emaciated. They let her go because she was too “hot”, a liability. Everyone was talking about this case. I have immense sympathy for her, and pray she is healing. Strong woman.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rosesfromangels View Post
    I believe her. Branded, broken nose, emaciated. They let her go because she was too ďhotĒ, a liability. Everyone was talking about this case. I have immense sympathy for her, and pray she is healing. Strong woman.
    BBM;
    I agree and believe her (to a degree) as people know, but aren't we stuck on the "why"? I understand the "leaving" but why the "taking" . What was the motive?.

    And as another poster asked, who would go to the expense just to let her go? The expense, the risk, the time, the trouble, etc.
    Wake up, check the hostage, eat breakfast, beat the hostage, have lunch, rake the leaves, beat the hostage, do some laundry check Facebook, check the hostage, talk on the phone, beat the hostage, eat dinner, relax... And whatever... and every day for 22 days?

    It's insanity. More so on them than her IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steleheart View Post
    BBM;
    I agree and believe her (to a degree) as people know, but aren't we stuck on the "why"? I understand the "leaving" but why the "taking" . What was the motive?.

    And as another poster asked, who would go to the expense just to let her go? The expense, the risk, the time, the trouble, etc.
    Wake up, check the hostage, eat breakfast, beat the hostage, have lunch, rake the leaves, beat the hostage, do some laundry check Facebook, check the hostage, talk on the phone, beat the hostage, eat dinner, relax... And whatever... and every day for 22 days?

    It's insanity. More so on them than her IMO.
    And....who would risk driving and letting her go? Most people aren't out in the hours before dawn, but there is no guarantee that nobody would see your car and witness Sherri exiting the car while the driver drove off. Maybe all the driving around Sherri mentions was the driver making sure no one was around, but it still seems like a risk that nobody take as a prank - they risked real criminal charges.

    That's my lingering question that keeps me on the fence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inthedetails View Post
    And....who would risk driving and letting her go? Most people aren't out in the hours before dawn, but there is no guarantee that nobody would see your car and witness Sherri exiting the car while the driver drove off. Maybe all the driving around Sherri mentions was the driver making sure no one was around, but it still seems like a risk that nobody take as a prank - they risked real criminal charges.

    That's my lingering question that keeps me on the fence.

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    Begs the question - who stood to gain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2Hope4 View Post
    BUT it has happened that way before. AH was national media attention for months, and her abductor let her go near her own home. Risky? Sure! She promised not to tell who he was, and didn't at first.
    That case is different because there was a motive. She was sexually assaulted. There was no discernible motive to abduct SP.

    SP also has a documented history of harming herself and blaming it on other people. Three separate family members called the police on her on four different occasions because they were so exasperated by her histrionic behavior. I don't think AH has that same history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2Hope4 View Post
    BUT it has happened that way before. AH was national media attention for months, and her abductor let her go near her own home. Risky? Sure! She promised not to tell who he was, and didn't at first.
    And not to forget the cruelty in SM and news sights spewed upon the mother, the sister and AH in general.

    Nate Kibby will die in prison though
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    Quote Originally Posted by Russian Blue View Post
    You are a bit more benevolent than I am. If she was abducted/ truly kidnapped by to Latinas who were unknown to her for whatever reason. Yeah I feel really bad for her. But her silence is deafening and the lack of looking for these kidnappers is a big disconnect for the community who doesn't know what they should think about their community.

    If she made the whole thing up or was part of some hoax or whatever caused her to fake her disappearance with or without the help of others then this needs to be addressed. She and any accomplices need to be arrested and charge with all the associated criminal acts. And what about the cost to law enforcement: time, money and less attention to real matters. If she needs help lets get it too her. But you can't be allowed to get away with this stuff. And you can't cover for people who do, so if it is a hoax and her family members know then they should be liable also.
    And what about all those people who are out looking for two Latinas with bandannas and one with hoop earrings that a rabbit could jump through. They need to know if they are safe or not.
    I agree and I was trying to be nice. But I think she has major mental health issues/a personality disorder and she needs professional help. I feel for anyone with mental health issues. It doesnít mean I donít think they need to be held accountable for their actions.


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