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    Quote Originally Posted by Steleheart View Post
    BBM;
    I agree and believe her (to a degree) as people know, but aren't we stuck on the "why"? I understand the "leaving" but why the "taking" . What was the motive?.

    And as another poster asked, who would go to the expense just to let her go? The expense, the risk, the time, the trouble, etc.
    Wake up, check the hostage, eat breakfast, beat the hostage, have lunch, rake the leaves, beat the hostage, do some laundry check Facebook, check the hostage, talk on the phone, beat the hostage, eat dinner, relax... And whatever... and every day for 22 days?

    It's insanity. More so on them than her IMO.
    There are a lot of strange fetishes out there. What if SP and/or KP had a kidnapping fantasy? Maybe she had an active life online and ended up meeting someone with the money/resources to bring the plan to life.

    Seems far fetched, but I recall in the news a man who had a fantasy where he wanted someone to kill him and eat him. And he found someone online who was willing, and did it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lonetraveler View Post
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-two-kids.html

    Can't help but notice the photos in this article showing Sherri P, husband and kids coming outside where reporters and photographers are waiting, Sherri comes out with a red dish of water and just sets it down and then returns to the house. She is totally covered, hood, cap, heavy coat but her little girl is not wearing a coat and is barefoot. This appears to me to be a photo op
    and nothing more.
    Interesting as well to me are the comments under photo saying that husband was initially cleared but but it appears LE are still considering him.

    Don't understand why she would come out at all with the reporters there only to place the dish outside. And why is one child heavily dressed like his mother but one child without shoes and no jacket?
    This looks to me, IMO an article from last January. The red "bowl" she has looks like a hummingbird feeder. Not sure if hummingbirds are around in January in California.

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    From the article:
    ..."During a canvas of the area on that day, detectives located video surveillance of Sherri Papini walking in the area of a nearby Jehovah's Witness church located at 13980 County Road 99W, Woodland, CA. Upon review of the video surveillance, only one camera located on the south side of the building captured Sherri Papini walking in the area of the Highway 99W and the Interstate 5 northbound interchange. Sherri Papini can be seen running to the church north on Highway 99W and then south on Highway 99W until she goes out of view, heading toward the Interstate 5 northbound on-ramp."...

    IMO - I saw someone running.Was there footage of her walking?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steleheart View Post
    BBM;
    I agree and believe her (to a degree) as people know, but aren't we stuck on the "why"? I understand the "leaving" but why the "taking" . What was the motive?.

    And as another poster asked, who would go to the expense just to let her go? The expense, the risk, the time, the trouble, etc.
    Wake up, check the hostage, eat breakfast, beat the hostage, have lunch, rake the leaves, beat the hostage, do some laundry check Facebook, check the hostage, talk on the phone, beat the hostage, eat dinner, relax... And whatever... and every day for 22 days?

    It's insanity. More so on them than her IMO.
    And....who would risk driving and letting her go? Most people aren't out in the hours before dawn, but there is no guarantee that nobody would see your car and witness Sherri exiting the car while the driver drove off. Maybe all the driving around Sherri mentions was the driver making sure no one was around, but it still seems like a risk that nobody take as a prank - they risked real criminal charges.

    That's my lingering question that keeps me on the fence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cannonball3804 View Post
    There are a lot of strange fetishes out there. What if SP and/or KP had a kidnapping fantasy? Maybe she had an active life online and ended up meeting someone with the money/resources to bring the plan to life.

    Seems far fetched, but I recall in the news a man who had a fantasy where he wanted someone to kill him and eat him. And he found someone online who was willing, and did it.
    I have not seen any evidence to indicate some fetish. LE has all the resources to trace the electronic footprints.In fact I think the only reason to even mention Michigan Man was to illustrate how deeply they have looked in case some player out there does not think they can. They can.
    The cat-fishing, firewalls, apps that scrub and all that LE can always call upon FBI and HSI to investigate and use their services.
    If something seemed hinky to LE or to, well, especially nurses, Doctors, Scans, Xrays, etc some red flag would have gone up.
    The most bizarre fantasies online do exist. I know. I just don't see it here.
    IMO If LE thought this was bogus I do not think it would be in the news again (still).

    JMO

    So then I am left with this very nagging"WTF". Not too be crude. Something happened to her. It's unheard of considering all of what the "facts" are so far.
    They could have shot her and dumped her if something went awry.
    Feels like right now everything is
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    Quote Originally Posted by samsmom View Post
    This looks to me, IMO an article from last January. The red "bowl" she has looks like a hummingbird feeder. Not sure if hummingbirds are around in January in California.
    What that red thing looks like to me:
    https://static3.mypetchicken.com/ima...erWithBase.jpg
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    It's a strange world out there, a "sex cult" with (a different) branding of initials ...

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-sex-cult.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steleheart View Post
    I have not seen any evidence to indicate some fetish. LE has all the resources to trace the electronic footprints.In fact I think the only reason to even mention Michigan Man was to illustrate how deeply they have looked in case some player out there does not think they can. They can.
    The cat-fishing, firewalls, apps that scrub and all that LE can always call upon FBI and HSI to investigate and use their services.
    If something seemed hinky to LE or to, well, especially nurses, Doctors, Scans, Xrays, etc some red flag would have gone up.
    The most bizarre fantasies online do exist. I know. I just don't see it here.
    IMO If LE thought this was bogus I do not think it would be in the news again (still).

    JMO

    So then I am left with this very nagging"WTF". Not too be crude. Something happened to her. It's unheard of considering all of what the "facts" are so far.
    They could have shot her and dumped her if something went awry.
    Feels like right now everything is
    I think they mentioned Michigan man since the public already knew they went to Michigan but not the reason for their trip. But if that was the only reason, or if they mentioned him to prove how deep they can dig like you suggested, why did they elaborate and mention that they were texting for months up until her disappearance and planned to meet up? They didnít have to give those details, but they did, and I think they did for a reason. The recent statements from the LE arenít exactly beaming... they have been very clear about inconsistencies, and Iíll go as far to say they are revealing bits and pieces that donít necessarily show SP in a great light.

    If they think her story is bogus, I donít see why letting it fade would be the best move for them. Locals deserve to know if they have a reason to watch their backs in broad daylight, and it would be really irresponsible for LE to brush it under the rug just bc they donít believe her. Not to mention they have been criticized by many people who think the sheriffs office is incompetent. So I think LE certainly wants an arrest in this case, whether itís SP or two Latina women. JMO


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    Quote Originally Posted by Inthedetails View Post
    And....who would risk driving and letting her go? Most people aren't out in the hours before dawn, but there is no guarantee that nobody would see your car and witness Sherri exiting the car while the driver drove off. Maybe all the driving around Sherri mentions was the driver making sure no one was around, but it still seems like a risk that nobody take as a prank - they risked real criminal charges.

    That's my lingering question that keeps me on the fence.

    jmopinion
    Begs the question - who stood to gain.

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    This is such a strange case... why release the grainy image of Papini running around in the parking lot? They have more for the timeline now, sure, but what clues from the public could be gained from the video?


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    After this long and her cropped hair in corn rows & pigtails - supposedly in good spirits? If that is a smile it looks like a very forced one at best.

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    Bringing this video forward from last thread:

    http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/newl...apini-51009648

    I know at some point posters wondered if she had shoes on. Matt Gutman says in the video that she was barefoot when released.

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    Bringing my comment from the last thread forward, because I would like to hear everybody's thoughts:

    Any thoughts on why that specific location was chosen for the drop off? There are tons of very isolated freeway exits along that part of the 5 freeway. So why there? Does CG have any connection to that exit? Is it possible that she was being held right at that exit all along? Maybe she was "held" (holed up) in that junkyard? A junkyard would have hose clamps, chains, and metal things to heat up and brand yourself with.

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    Sherri Papini abduction twist as CCTV shows her running around car park at 4am hours before she was found chained up by roadside
    ASTONISHING CCTV footage shows “abducted” mother Sherri Papini running freely around a car park – hours before she was found “bound with restraints”.
    The mum-of-two, 34, is filmed at a Jehovah’s Witness Kingdom Hall in Yolo County, California, at 4am on November 24 last year.

    I thought they had a video of her running to a church then to a freeway then waving down someone for help I saw this last night






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    Quote Originally Posted by 2Hope4 View Post
    BUT it has happened that way before. AH was national media attention for months, and her abductor let her go near her own home. Risky? Sure! She promised not to tell who he was, and didn't at first.
    That case is different because there was a motive. She was sexually assaulted. There was no discernible motive to abduct SP.

    SP also has a documented history of harming herself and blaming it on other people. Three separate family members called the police on her on four different occasions because they were so exasperated by her histrionic behavior. I don't think AH has that same history.

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