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  1. #61
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    Just peeking in to see if the words "mentally ill" popped up and I see it has.

    R.I.P. to the victims of yet another domestic terrorist attack. Thankfully he was unable to gain access to the classrooms of the children or if could have been so much worse. Kudos to the teachers and the school for protecting them as much as humanly possible. The poor babies will never be the same and I hope they get the proper counseling.
    Justice for Trayvon

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    ( O/T, this is the second or third time in the past few days I'm hearing about a juvenile being found with a gun at school...one kid was just 8 years old...

    Juvenile arrested in Chaparral High School parking lot had loaded gun
    http://kdvr.com/2017/11/14/juvenile-...ad-loaded-gun/

    *this kid wasn't even a student there... )

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    Mom and sister speak.

    “We’re stunned and we’re appalled that this is a person who has no business with firearms whatsoever,” Orr said. “Our deep, deep sympathy for the victims and it sounds trite but our hearts are breaking for them.”

    More at link.
    http://amp.abcactionnews.com/2399157...ry-school.html


    MOO

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    Quote Originally Posted by LolaMoon08 View Post
    Just peeking in to see if the words "mentally ill" popped up and I see it has.

    R.I.P. to the victims of yet another domestic terrorist attack. Thankfully he was unable to gain access to the classrooms of the children or if could have been so much worse. Kudos to the teachers and the school for protecting them as much as humanly possible. The poor babies will never be the same and I hope they get the proper counseling.
    Are you suggesting he wasn't mentally ill? I can't tell by your post.

    I agree that I hope the people at the school get proper counseling - mental health is important to take care of. (Though I admit I'm not sure what proper counseling would be.)

    jmo

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    From the article below:

    Mr. Johnston said a judge had issued a restraining order against the gunman after the dispute with the neighbor in January. He did not describe what happened between them but said the judge’s order did not prohibit the gunman from possessing firearms.

    The killer “is known to law enforcement, but I don’t know him to be a felon,” he added.

    California Shooting Leaves at Least 4 Deadhttps://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/14/us/northern-california-shooting-school.html

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    The staff who locked the doors are heroes. They saved countless lives.


    http://nationalpost.com/news/world/s...kids-at-school




    "Police said surveillance video shows the shooter unsuccessfully trying to enter a nearby elementary school after quick-thinking staff members locked the outside doors and barricaded themselves inside when they heard gunshots."

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    Quote Originally Posted by rsd1200 View Post
    A pistol can be a semi-automatic. All that means is that after it fires one shot, it automatically loads the next, into the chamber, to be fired. You still must pull the trigger for each shot fired. Without being modified, it can only fire, as fast as one can pull the trigger, for each shot fired.

    A machine gun, is fully automatic, and will fire as long as one pulls the trigger and holds it, or until it runs out of ammo. They can fire around 10 rounds per second. Machine guns are extremely hard to qualify for, and are all but banned, in the United States.

    These are machine guns.
    Knob Creek: Louisville Ky...old stomping ground

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    More details here:

    Northern California gunman kills 4, wounds 10 in rampage
    http://wr.al/19oTX

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    FEDERAL LAWS
    IMO it's crystal clear, he owned guns illegally per Federal Law.

    Federal law prohibits anyone convicted of a misdemeanor or felony domestic violence charge or who is subject to a domestic violence protective order from possessing a firearm
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...carrying-guns/



    https://www.nraila.org/articles/2011...ical-marijuana

    "A*person who actually uses marijuana—medicinally or otherwise—is an "unlawful user of ... [a] controlled substance," because marijuana is defined as a controlled substance and can't legally be prescribed under federal law* If a person admits marijuana use to a licensed firearm dealer, the dealer is prohibited from transferring a firearm*to that person because the dealer will have a "reasonable cause to believe" that the person is an unlawful user."





    He said there was a “domestic violence” report Monday involving the gunman, but didn’t provide any further details.


    He grew marijuana on his property. Recently she said he began complaining about failing health he attributed to the nearby methamphetamine labs.

    She said her brother had struggled with mental illness throughout his life and at times had a violent temper.

    http://amp.abcactionnews.com/2399157...ry-school.html


    MOO

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    Media rocking again with he ought not to have had a gun.

    OR

    how could he get a gun legally?

    IMO meanginless focus

    People with suspened liccenses drive all the time

    Some folks with mental illness are not focusing on statutes

    It against the law to rob banks-- people do it

    it illigal to have heroin -- people have heroin

    It aganist the law to steal cars - people stral cars

    Its against the law to murder someone -- people murder people

    There are black markets for everything..

    The notion that some law is going to change our nations problem with is IMO ludicrious.

    We have had a horrid month. It is worth pointing out , now, that the simple statistic is that non Muslims kill more Americans than those with Muslim associations -- has been that way for decades.

    The other reality here is that there are so many guns out there anyhow , at this point , if we suddenly stopped making them -- period- there are so many available.

    Folks that intent on engaging in this behavior are going to in one way or another harm others.

    Its fact -- America is a violent land - that is our reality.

    If we want , at some level IMO to start to address this mess , a authentic starting point , IMO is to start building psyc facilties , where those suffering have a place to be.

    That is about money so that wont happen.

    Congress bla bla about those bump stock things -- what a bunch of hot air. As far as I know this was the first time LV- one was used.

    Banning them does nothing but give congress some meaningless thing to waste their useless time on

    I worked with felons (loved em it was amazing work). There is an entire belief system and thinking process about the world around them and most of us.

    That is why incarnation has become less and less a deterrent. That is why we often here that most have long criminal histories and have been incarcerated in the past - and have just committed another crime .

    We need long term mental health facilities -- where they are treated with dignity. Kinda like nursing homes -- long term placement .

    Our current system of 24-72 hour lockups does nothing -- mental illness, generally speaking , is not a curable malady.

    Mitigation is needed. Mitigation needs resources.

    The human animal feels very uncomfortable with being powerless about some things,

    After every mass shooting - embedded int the focus that this the perp had a gun illegally - quietly , in reality what that imo translates to underlying belief that if we just had a law -- we could control this phenomenon

    Other nations that do have the correlation between strict gun laws and nowhere near as a violent society imo is about that nations culture before the strict gun laws.

    Were a gun hoo society --that is cultural so that fix in our land can not imo alter our trajectory.

    moo
    Last edited by CARIIS; 11-15-2017 at 10:48 AM.


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    Quote Originally Posted by zencompass View Post
    The staff who locked the doors are heroes. They saved countless lives.


    http://nationalpost.com/news/world/s...kids-at-school




    "Police said surveillance video shows the shooter unsuccessfully trying to enter a nearby elementary school after quick-thinking staff members locked the outside doors and barricaded themselves inside when they heard gunshots."
    Why weren't the doors locked to begin with? In the schools my kids attend/have attended, they can enter into a vestibule and then the office staff has to buzz them in for them to come any further inside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Audrey Horne View Post
    I have $%^&ing had it. I've had it. I've had it with violent men and their wounded-ego rage, I'm tired of domestic violence not being taken seriously, and I've freaking had it with this hateful culture of our country. I'm sick of the ignorance, the trolling, the blatant lies and deception, the excusing of disgusting acts because it's "one of theirs." I CANNOT TAKE ONE MORE MINUTE of people wishing death on me and my friends because we aren't exactly the same as them. This was a great experiment, but we're quickly burning ourselves to the ground. This is a sick society, and I now believe it's terminal. Screw it.
    I share your anger over this. I'm tired of hearing LE/judges cannot do anything about a violent domestic terrorizer until he kills someone or others.He terrorized his neighbors! Yet nothing was done!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4SAM View Post
    Knob Creek: Louisville Ky...old stomping ground
    Yup, not far from from the Ohio River. It's a pretty big, twice a year, event. Knob Creek whiskey, is made nearby, at the Jim Beam Stillhouse (just trivia).
    Let me live, so when it's time to die, even the Reaper cries. . . ~ RHCP

    (Unless there's a link, it's just a my own 2¢.)

    As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly. ~ Arthur Carlson, WKRP in Cincinnati (Happy Thanksgiving!)


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    Quote Originally Posted by CARIIS View Post
    Media rocking again with he ought not to have had a gun.

    OR

    how could he get a gun legally?

    IMO meanginless focus

    People with suspened liccenses drive all the time

    Some folks with mental illness are not focusing on statutes

    It against the law to rob banks-- people do it

    it illigal to have heroin -- people have heroin

    It aganist the law to steal cars - people stral cars

    Its against the law to murder someone -- people murder people

    There are black markets for everything..

    The notion that some law is going to change our nations problem with is IMO ludicrious.

    We have had a horrid month. It is worth pointing out , now, that the simple statistic is that non Muslims kill more Americans than those with Muslim associations -- has been that way for decades.

    The other reality here is that there are so many guns out there anyhow , at this point , if we suddenly stopped making them -- period- there are so many available.

    Folks that intent on engaging in this behavior are going to in one way or another harm others.

    Its fact -- America is a violent land - that is our reality.

    If we want , at some level IMO to start to address this mess , a authentic starting point , IMO is to start building psyc facilties , where those suffering have a place to be.

    That is about money so that wont happen.

    Congress bla bla about those bump stock things -- what a bunch of hot air. As far as I know this was the first time LV- one was used.

    Banning them does nothing but give congress some meaningless thing to waste their useless time on

    I worked with felons (loved em it was amazing work). There is an entire belief system and thinking process about the world around them and most of us.

    That is why incarnation has become less and less a deterrent. That is why we often here that most have long criminal histories and have been incarcerated in the past - and have just committed another crime .

    We need long term mental health facilities -- where they are treated with dignity. Kinda like nursing homes -- long term placement .

    Our current system of 24-72 hour lockups does nothing -- mental illness, generally speaking , is not a curable malady.

    Mitigation is needed. Mitigation needs resources.

    The human animal feels very uncomfortable with being powerless about some things,

    After every mass shooting - embedded int the focus that this the perp had a gun illegally - quietly , in reality what that imo translates to underlying belief that if we just had a law -- we could control this phenomenon

    Other nations that do have the correlation between strict gun laws and nowhere near as a violent society imo is about that nations culture before the strict gun laws.

    Were a gun hoo society --that is cultural so that fix in our land can not imo alter our trajectory.

    moo
    Agreed. People need real treatment. Not just stuck in a 6x9 cell for months, or years, and then spit out onto the street, get a job, go see your parole officer and be a good boy. It does not work that way. Especially if you have a person who has mental health issues. Those aren't addressed inside. Once you have a felony in this country, you are legally permitted, to be treated like a second class citizen, even though you have "paid your debt to society." You can't ever even vote again!
    Let me live, so when it's time to die, even the Reaper cries. . . ~ RHCP

    (Unless there's a link, it's just a my own 2¢.)

    As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly. ~ Arthur Carlson, WKRP in Cincinnati (Happy Thanksgiving!)


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    I guess someone should have called the FBI instead of local law enforcement.
    Even if he told local LE he had no guns, the call from the neighbor that he was shooting off rounds should have been a red flag.
    They can't even have ammo.
    If police aren't gonna enforce the laws, when called and told he had weapons, what good are they?

    Under California law, a variety of people are prohibited from purchasing or possessing firearms or ammunition, including domestic abusers

    http://lawcenter.giffords.org/califo...ing-order-law/

    https://www.justice.gov/usam/crimina...uals-convicted

    MOO

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