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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandreala View Post
    Forgive me if this has been brought up - there are so many posts and I've been trying to go through them all. If it is fact that Fleet opened the door and couldn't find the light switch, so he closed the door and left - wouldn't that make it a fact that whoever carried JBR down to the basement had to have known where the lightswitch was, otherwise they wouldn't be able to see. So, would it then be fact that the person who carried JBR downstairs was someone familiar with the house?

    I am sure there is an explanation, as I'm not as well versed on this case, but I'd love to know more facts on the above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperDave View Post
    Sandreala, you don't know the half of it! White said that JR looked into that same room, screamed, THEN turned on the light!
    Oh jeez! I definitely need to get caught back up in this. I've been spending so much time following the Casey Anthony case, but this case seems like there's a whole new wave of things to look into and discuss!!

    Thanks, Super Dave

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    It was LE who told JR during a depo that FW told them he was in the basement early that morning (hours before he and JR "found" the body around 1 pm). JR then said he was unaware of FW's previous visit to the basement. FW told LE that he looked into the wineceller and didn't see JBR wrapped in the white blanket. He said he couldn't find the light switch. That was so surprise- it was in an odd place- not only was it outside the room, it was also in an unusual place on the wall- down about knee-level. (where no intruder would find it either) He was stunned that was where she was eventually found. He had said that there was no way he felt he could have missed seeing her, even without a light on in the room.
    Tests were conducted by LE in the basement to see whether there was enough light coming in from the hall outside the wineceller to see in the room, and it was determined that there should have been enough light even if the wineceller was dark. After all, FW didn't walk around the basement in the dark- they ALL put lights on as they searched the house. It was dark at that hour of the morning, but the wineceller was dark all the time anyway because it had no windows.
    I don't recall if tests were done with the white blanket (or at least any white blanket) still in the room. If it were me, I'd have tested the light in the room that way.
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    Were any traces of the clean-up found, in the hand-basin or garbage?


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    Quote Originally Posted by anne11 View Post
    Were any traces of the clean-up found, in the hand-basin or garbage?
    Not as far as we know. There was an odor of peroxide/bleach in JB's bathroom. Possibly to clean up blood?
    The flashlight was wiped down, including the batteries. Other than that, LE did take apart the bathroom fixtures to check to see if anything incriminating had been flushed down the toilet. They also checked the garbage, including the bathrooms.
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    Was JB's own DNA present in the nail scrapings, and also does anyone know why there were contusions on the temporal lobes (coup-contre coup?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by anne11 View Post
    Was JB's own DNA present in the nail scrapings,
    Yep.

    and also does anyone know why there were contusions on the temporal lobes (coup-contre coup?)
    Thanks in advance
    I don't KNOW, but one possibility: the brain ricocheting due to the impact.
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    SD is correct. With an impact like that, forceful enough to crack open her skull, the brain does ricochet back and forth, slamming into the inside of her skull the same as it would in a car accident.
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    I've been looking at the autopsy photos again and you are right DeeDee there are no scratches near the ligature, but do you think that the garrotte applied twice as there seems to be 2 seperate marks, and the mark i thought was made by a thumb seems too angular, any ideas on that mark?


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    Quote Originally Posted by anne11 View Post
    I've been looking at the autopsy photos again and you are right DeeDee there are no scratches near the ligature, but do you think that the garrotte applied twice as there seems to be 2 seperate marks, and the mark i thought was made by a thumb seems too angular, any ideas on that mark?
    To me, it looks just like a single ligature furrow. The triangular shaped red abrasion seen under the ligature furrow is common in strangulation victims and is the result of blood pooling under the pressure point. This could be the spot where the strongest pressure was applied as the ligature was twisted. There are photos on http://www.crimeshots.com that show similar marks on the throat of a victim who was strangled with a scarf. Some here believe that JB was strangled with something else first, possibly even from someone twisting her red turtleneck. However, I do not believe this. I think if that had happened, the coroner would have known. If that had happened, the first strangulation would have left its own mark.
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    Thanks again DeeDee , i always had in my mind that the murderer held the ligature behind her, i think i was wrong.


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    Quote Originally Posted by anne11 View Post
    Thanks again DeeDee , i always had in my mind that the murderer held the ligature behind her, i think i was wrong.
    You weren't necessarily wrong. The knot was found tied in the back at the nape of her neck. Her hair and gold chain necklace were caught up in the ligature as it was twisted. The triangle red mark still could have been caused by the pressure from the strangulation. The ligature could have started out with the knot twisted in front. The red mark happens while the victim is still alive, so possibly the twisting started out in the front. Either way, that red mark is common in strangulation victims.
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    Does anyone know when JAR moved out of the R's house and why.
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    I've been revisiting ACR and just wondered if anyone has more information on the R's gardener.


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    Quote Originally Posted by anne11 View Post
    I've been looking at the autopsy photos again and you are right DeeDee there are no scratches near the ligature, but do you think that the garrotte applied twice as there seems to be 2 seperate marks, and the mark i thought was made by a thumb seems too angular, any ideas on that mark?
    Yep, looks like the outline of the muzzle of a hand gun. Check out the picture I 'enhanced' in my album.
    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/pic...628839&thumb=1
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