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    Argentine submarine goes missing with 44 crew members on board

    An Argentine military submarine with 44 crew members on board was missing at sea on Friday, prompting a massive search to locate the vessel which may have suffered a communication error.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-a...-idUSKBN1DH1MP

    NASA Aircraft Joins in Search for Missing Argentine Submarine, 44 Sailors; U.S. Navy Submarine Rescue Crews, Equipment Mobilizing - The NASA P-3 Orion is now looking for the diesel-electric attack boat ARA San Juan (S-42), which has not been heard from since Wednesday.

    https://news.usni.org/2017/11/17/nas...ent-mobilizing


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    The US Navy said it was helping, by deploying a P8-A Poseidon maritime aircraft on Saturday.

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/17/americ...ing/index.html

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    launched a huge search-and-rescue operation

    operation was officially upgraded to search-and-rescue status Friday. But poor weather conditions have made it difficult for the Navy to locate the missing vessel, Reuters reported.

    Poseidon is expected to aid in the search because its technology allows it “to support a wide range of missions over large bodies of water, including sub-surface search-and-rescue operations,”

    U.S. Navy sub-hunting aircraft

    there supposed to surface if they have not made contact with land in three days

    It is thought that the submarine may have had communication difficulties caused by a power cut. Navy protocol dictates that a vessel should come to the surface if communication has been lost.

    assistance include include Brazil, Uruguay, Chile, Peru, Britain and South Africa.

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/11/18/us-navys-new-maritime-aircraft-to-aid-in-search-for-argentine-sub-and-crew.html

    stormy South Atlantic seas

    looks like it has been tared over!





    state-of-the-art sensors and communications equipment'.

    emergency operation was formally upgraded to a search-and-rescue procedure on Friday evening after no visual or radar contact was made with the submarine.

    e said: 'We expect that it is on the surface.'
    The German-built submarine, which uses diesel-electric propulsion, was inaugurated in 1983, making it the newest of the three submarines in the navy's fleet, according to the navy.


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    can spend four hours patrolling a search area and has a range of 1,200 miles.


    https://www.google.com/search?q=rgentina-submarine-missing&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS702US702&oq=rgentina-submarine-missing&aqs=chrome..69i57.4822j0j4&sourceid=chrome &ie=UTF-8ok

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    ABc confirming there was a fire on board Wed

    time (air) running out

    no visual or radar returns (that kinda makes sense tho with no power )

    id dont know tho --how does a sub release ballast without power??

    aircraft has 21 crew members

    german built 1983

    crew family been in contact





    http://abcnews.go.com/International/...ry?id=51225758

    they have three subs

    if they really have no clue where it is this is not looking good

    they way it is being reported I am getting that notion moo
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    Quote Originally Posted by CARIIS View Post
    ABc confirming there was a fire on board Wed

    time (air) running out

    they have three subs

    if they really have no clue where it is this is not looking good

    they way it is being reported I am getting that notion moo
    Hi C, I'm confused. There was a fire before they lost contact?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jax49 View Post
    Hi C, I'm confused. There was a fire before they lost contact?
    Hi

    yes it sounds like they had electrical issue that resulted in a fire and knocked out communication

    but like in the air fire down there is a really bad deal


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    Quote Originally Posted by CARIIS View Post
    Hi

    yes it sounds like they had electrical issue that resulted in a fire and knocked out communication

    but like in the air fire down there is a really bad deal


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    Tks. Bad and scary for sure.
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    Argentina missing submarine: Satellite signals detected

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-42041978

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    Argentina: Missing navy submarine tried contacting bases



    A missing Argentine submarine attempted to contact naval bases via satellite seven times, but communication with the vessel was not established, the nation's defense ministry said.

    The calls came to different bases between 10:52 a.m. and 3:42 p.m. Saturday, and lasted between four and 36 seconds, the ministry said in a statement to CNN en Español.
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    I have some hope still but it doesn't look good.

    Interesting that (if I recall), Mar Del Plata was where some German U-boats surrendered after they'd been roaming the Atlantic after Germany had surrendered in early May of 1945. One was suspected of sinking an Allied ship in July of 1945 after Germany was supposed to be out of the war. The last known German U-boat didn't surrender at Mar Del Plata until several days after Japan surrendered in late August of 1945.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jax49 View Post
    Argentina: Missing navy submarine tried contacting bases

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    scary

    they would have survival gear on board right? like could they be afloat somewhere in a dinghy? forgive me if that sounds naive ... I know nothing about submarines/ocean survival

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    Quote Originally Posted by LadyL View Post
    scary

    they would have survival gear on board right? like could they be afloat somewhere in a dinghy? forgive me if that sounds naive ... I know nothing about submarines/ocean survival
    I don't know for sure but i think they are like aviation pressurized .

    I dont think they could open the hatch and if it crushed i think coming up would kill them (bends)..

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    Now starting to doubt if signals were valid


    http://abcnews.go.com/International/...arine-51259126

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    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/19/w...-san-juan.html

    Search for Missing Argentine Submarine Raises Grim Scenarios

    — As search teams raced against time, and stormy seas, to find a missing Argentine submarine, officials said on Sunday that earlier hopeful reports that the crew might have tried to make satellite calls in recent days appeared to be wrong.
    The grimmest alternative is that the submarine sank as a result of a catastrophic event such as an explosion or fire. If the crew survived such an event, those onboard could conceivably have enough oxygen for several days after it went under, according to an Argentine Navy official who was not authorized to speak on the record.

    If it is flailing on the surface, and the crew manages to weather the storm, the sailors would have enough fresh water and food to last for about 25 days, the official said.
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