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    Laura Babcock Murder Trial 11.21.17 - Day 19

    This is the Babcock murder trial discussion thread.

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    Remembering Laura Babcock and waiting for Justice


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    You are not forgotten ... Rest peacefully, Laura


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    'A crackling noise': Accused killer Mark Smich's ex girlfriend saw animal incinerator in use
    By Shannon Martin, CBC News Nov 17, 2017


    Meneses said one of the jobs she did for Millard was cleaning the washrooms at his airport hangar. In this photo she poses near the animal incinerator, called The Eliminator. (Court exhibit)

    The ex-girlfriend of accused killer Mark Smich told jury members at the Laura Babcock murder trial about a night when Smich and co-accused Dellen Millard told her they were testing out a towering animal incinerator.

    Marlena Meneses, 23, described in Ontario Superior Court in Toronto a late-night trip to Millard's airport hanger in the Waterloo Region, where she saw the machine smoking and heard a "crackling noise."

    After four weeks of testimony, Meneses is one of the Crown's final witnesses.

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    'His new toy'

    It was Meneses's account of a large black piece of farm machinery, called The Eliminator, that dominated much of her testimony.

    When she first saw the machine at Millard's airport hangar, she says the accused killer told her it was his new toy.

    Meneses said she later asked Smich about it and he said it was for farm animals.

    "I thought it was weird because Dellen didn't have any farm animals," she told the court.
    Last edited by Coldpizza; 11-21-2017 at 08:41 AM.

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    Accused killer's ex faces cross-examination at Laura Babcock murder trial
    By Shannon Martin, CBC News Posted: Nov 21, 2017

    Accused killer Mark Smich barely glanced at his ex-girlfriend as she told jury members at the Laura Babcock murder trial Friday that she saw him and co-accused Dellen Millard fire up an animal incinerator, "testing it."

    Marlena Meneses, 23, is back in the witness box Tuesday in Ontario Superior Court in downtown Toronto. Not only will she be grilled by her ex-boyfriend's lawyer, but she'll also come face to face with his onetime best friend, Millard, who is acting as his own lawyer.

    Millard begins his cross-examination of Meneses at 9:45 a.m. ET today.

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    Thanks in advance to those that can help with the tweets.

    I'm having PC issues this morning, and again, the live blog link isn't working for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coldpizza View Post
    Thanks in advance to those that can help with the tweets.

    I'm having PC issues this morning, and again, the live blog link isn't working for me.
    Me neither......I don't think it's your PC.....

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    Legal matters or troubles?
    Probably the most important cross today.

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    Blog link not working here either so must be CBC

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    btw, at 9:31 was a single tweet that they were waiting outside.

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    Shannon Martin‏
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    We're standing by for the jury at the Laura Babcock murder trial. We'll start going once they arrive.


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    Shannon Martin‏
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    There are some legal discussions happening at the moment.

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    Lisa Hepfner

    The #LauraBabcock murder trial resumes this morning, with cross examination of Mark #Smich girlfriend Marlena Meneses by co-accused Dellen #Millard. Tweets here all day, full story 6pm @CHCHNews

    Sent from my SM-G930W8 using Tapatalk

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    Shannon Martin‏
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    For those of you watching the live blog, we're having some technical issues. Our web team is looking at it. Thanks for your patience!

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    Legal arguments first.

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    Oh to be a fly on the wall......how many situations (like asking MM to wear a fake pregnancy belly to smuggle drugs across the border) is DM trying to keep out?

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