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    Laura Babcock Murder Trial 12.07.17 - Charge to the Jury - Day 1

    This is the Babcock murder trial discussion thread.

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    Remembering Laura Babcock and waiting for Justice


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    You are not forgotten ... Rest peacefully, Laura


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    Laura Babcock didn't disappear, she was murdered, Crown tells jury during closing address
    By Adam Carter, CBC News Posted: Dec 06, 2017



    Though there's no evidence of exactly how it happened, co-accused killers Dellen Millard and Mark Smich murdered Toronto woman Laura Babcock before incinerating her body to obliterate any trace of evidence, the Crown said today in closing statements in court.​

    Crown attorney Jill Cameron spent the afternoon taking the jury through what she alleges were Babcock's last days, in July of 2012. Babcock left electronic "footprints" everywhere, Cameron said, before she simply vanished without a trace on July 4.

    No one knows if Babcock was shot, stabbed or strangled, Cameron said — but in the end, it doesn't matter.

    "We don't need to know how Laura died to find them both guilty of first-degree murder," she told the jury.

    Smich's laywer calls Crown case 'fiction'

    Before Cameron began her closing statements, Dungey told the jury the Crown's case against his client is full of holes and amounts to "fiction."

    Dungey appeared before the jury in a much more animated fashion than previously seen in the trial, pointing and gesturing, with his voice booming throughout the courtroom.

    "Is this a novel? Because it sure is fiction," Dungey said. "There's got to be some skin in the game here folks. There's got to be some substance."

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    Judge begins final charge to Laura Babcock jury
    By Adam Carter, CBC News Posted: Dec 07, 2017

    After weeks of testimony, dozens of witnesses and a "mountain" of evidence, the trial of two men accused of killing Toronto woman Laura Babcock is entering its final stages.

    Justice Michael Code will begin his charge to the jury on Thursday, the last stage before deliberations on a verdict. A charge to the jury usually includes an overview of the trial's evidence, instructions on how to weigh testimony and the avenues by which a jury can reach different verdicts.

    Code's charge to the jury is expected to last at least two days, with deliberations to begin early next week.

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    Court begins at 10:00 AM ET

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    Adam Carter again!

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    I'm of the opinion that the jury should be sequestered immediately after the Judge's charge. Am I alone in this?
    Also, once sequestered, do they deliberate over weekends?
    TIA!

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    Hey everyone - I'm back at the courthouse this morning as Justice Code begins his charge to the jury at the Laura Babcock trial.
    by Adam Carter 9:43 AM

    The charge is quite long, and is expected to take multiple days. It's the last piece of information the jury will get before they deliberate on a verdict.
    by Adam Carter 9:45 AM

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    Quote Originally Posted by loveisthemovement View Post
    Adam Carter again!
    He sure has quite the fan club amongst us.
    His coverage is really good, wish he could report on every case I'm interested in

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    We're now underway in court, but no jury yet. I'll let you know when they're in the room.
    by Adam Carter 9:58 AM

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    For the Judges charge to the jury, are the defendants and their lawyers in court also?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Grey-St View Post
    I'm of the opinion that the jury should be sequestered immediately after the Judge's charge. Am I alone in this?
    Also, once sequestered, do they deliberate over weekends?
    TIA!
    I believe they are sequestered after his charge, and I also understand they are in weekends too.

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    We're now underway in court, but no jury yet. I'll let you know when they're in the room.
    by Adam Carter 9:58 AM

    Thanks to all that can help with the tweets.

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    For anyone who is not familiar with a charge to the jury, it's dense. It usually includes an overview of the trial's evidence, instructions on how to weigh testimony and the avenues by which a jury can reach different verdicts. It's a key process for a jury -- but it can be fairly dry and technical. I'll do my best to explain it all as we go. If you have questions, you can ask them on Twitter at @adamcartercbc and I'll do my best to help you out.
    by Adam Carter 10:03 AM

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    The jury is now coming in. We're getting underway.
    by Adam Carter 10:10 AM

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    Code tells the jury we're in the "last, home stretch."
    by Adam Carter 10:12 AM

    He's now running through the schedule for the next couple of days. Says his charge is over 300 pages, and is "constantly evolving." He says it will likely take three days to deliver.
    by Adam Carter 10:13 AM

    "Some of this is pretty complex, and dense," Code says.
    by Adam Carter 10:13 AM

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