IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #77

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Regarding "Clothes" vs "shoes"....

I can't prove it because it must have been edited after the fact. However, on Dr. Phil's site, there are clips from the episode. I watched all of them Wednesday and again today. The clip with the sister going over the events of that day - at the end of that clip she discusses the moment they were found. There is about 10-20 seconds missing from that clip in my estimation, that was there the other day. She definitely said that someone yelled up the hill asking what they were wearing. I would like to see the full show but can't find it. That's where I saw it, and I'm 100% confident in what I saw.

It seems the "shoe" question was edited out. I am confident I heard it on the original and one of our fellow posters has it on VCR and listened to verify.

I'd like to know why they asked about shoes...I don't like the answers my brain produces.

moo
 
They ARE mum though. See the gag order in MS's video.

I will alert this if not permitted. I think it is, as the other MS videos.
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I have no clue who posted that video or if the source is reliable but it doesn't appear to me the maker of it is an official source.

As for the topic of a gag order, no charges have been filed in relation to the Delphi case so there's nothing to gag.

Have you followed any of the media reports with comments from Indiana State Police about DN? They have indicated DN to be a Colorado lead that they followed up on and that's about it,
 
It seems the "shoe" question was edited out. I am confident I heard it on the original and one of our fellow posters has it on VCR and listened to verify.

I'd like to know why they asked about shoes...I don't like the answers my brain produces.

moo

Yes. I’ve rewatched it too, they did ask her what color the shoes were. At first I was going by the quote in one of the msm links, and they misquoted her.
 
It seems the "shoe" question was edited out. I am confident I heard it on the original and one of our fellow posters has it on VCR and listened to verify.

I'd like to know why they asked about shoes...I don't like the answers my brain produces.

moo

I have it on DVR. It was definitely there. I went back and relistened.
 
Thread 77 now and no arrest yet, what a terrible tragedy.
 
It seems the "shoe" question was edited out. I am confident I heard it on the original and one of our fellow posters has it on VCR and listened to verify.

I'd like to know why they asked about shoes...I don't like the answers my brain produces.

moo

The shoe colour was definitely talked about just as a means to ID the two bodies that were found by the searchers. Whether the sister was asked or if she offered the information, it didn't appear to me to be of any greater significance other than the shoe colour happened to be distinctive.
 
Whether the word was "shoes" or "clothes", does it matter? Either could have been removed during the march up/down the hill or during the assault and then found by searchers and could have been near one of both of the bodies.
 
I have no clue who posted that video or if the source is reliable but it doesn't appear to me the maker of it is an official source.

As for the topic of a gag order, no charges have been filed in relation to the Delphi case so there's nothing to gag.

Have you followed any of the media reports with comments from Indiana State Police about DN? They have indicated DN to be a Colorado lead that they followed up on and that's about it,
As Daey said, a gag order was placed on DN case on Dec 5 in CO. Why?
could it be new CCO Prosecutor will file charges in January?
 
The shoe colour was definitely talked about just as a means to ID the two bodies that were found by the searchers. Whether the sister was asked or if she offered the information, it didn't appear to me there was any greater significance other than the shoe colour happened to be distinctive.

The sister was asked what color shoes by the searchers who found the bodies. Not about clothes, hair color, etc. That is highly significant to me. moo
 
As Daey said, a gag order was placed on DN case on Dec 5 in CO. Why?
could it be new CCO Prosecutor will file charges in January?

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe an Indiana Prosecutor files charges in Colorado for a crime that occured in Indiana.
 
Thread 77 now and no arrest yet, what a terrible tragedy.

Yes, Gregjrichards, very tragic, indeed. I'm so sorry for Abby and Libby's family, their friends, the good people of Delphi and so many touched by such a heart wrenching wait for justice. The notion of a warm winter Valentine's day will forever be Abby and Libby's day, in my mind.

Great hopes that an aware public and LE and maybe somebody having the courage to make a call with the right tip to catch this freak.

Patty, poignantly mentions at the end of Dr. Phil's coverage, that people thinking back to that day in February, if they noticed somebody they know act strange or change their appearance at the time, will hopefully add things up in their minds and call.
 
The shoe colour was definitely talked about just as a means to ID the two bodies that were found by the searchers. Whether the sister was asked or if she offered the information, it didn't appear to me there was any greater significance other than the shoe colour happened to be distinctive.

Yes, because by the way she said it went, there was no delay between her telling them the color of the shoes, and them then saying they found them. I guess while one person was asking her, another person could have found the girls very close by. Just one more piece that we just don’t know.
 
Whether the word was "shoes" or "clothes", does it matter? Either could have been removed during the march up/down the hill or during the assault and then found by searchers and could have been near one of both of the bodies.

It *could* matter because it could imply intentions. Shoes could come off while you're running or quickly trying to get away. Clothes, in this kind of attack, are generally removed for a far more malevolent reason.
 
Whether the word was "shoes" or "clothes", does it matter? Either could have been removed during the march up/down the hill or during the assault and then found by searchers and could have been near one of both of the bodies.

To me it's very significant, moreso clothes than shoes.
 
The sister was asked what color shoes by the searchers who found the bodies. Not about clothes, hair color, etc. That is highly significant to me. moo

Wouldn't it be expected the searchers be provided with a photo of who they were searching for?

Then determination of something specific such as shoe colour used to further confirm who they were searching for had indeed been found, in order to formally call off the search without putting family members through the trauma of making a visual ID?

I really don't know but that would seem might be the process used in other searches as well.
 
As Daey said, a gag order was placed on DN case on Dec 5 in CO. Why?
could it be new CCO Prosecutor will file charges in January?

Hi LNF,

JMO...
To keep any similarities between the CO and IN cases quiet? IN LE requested at the beginning that CO LE not reveal any similarities. Even if DN is not BG, IN LE may not want details leaked out. Since MSM has announced there are &#8220;similarities&#8221;, details could be jumped on and speculated about by the general public/social media as &#8220;THAT&#8217;S what the cases have in common!!!&#8221; even if that particular detail is not a similarity.
JMO.
 
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe an Indiana Prosecutor files charges in Colorado for a crime that occured in Indiana.

You misunderstood. The gag order was placed in CO. The new prosecutor begins in Carroll Co in January. His plea date was delayed till January 3 in CO. Maybe IN LE asked CO prosecutor to hold him until charges could be filed in IN.
 
Hi LNF,

JMO...
To keep any similarities between the CO and IN cases quiet? IN LE requested at the beginning that CO LE not reveal any similarities. Even if DN is not BG, IN LE may not want details leaked out. Since MSM has announced there are &#8220;similarities&#8221;, details could be jumped on and speculated about by the general public/social media as &#8220;THAT&#8217;S what the cases have in common!!!&#8221; even if that particular detail is not a similarity.
JMO.

true. Thank you.
 
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