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  1. #1
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    Lurker Coming Out

    Hi everyone: I have lurked on this board for a couple of years now - I have followed the Routier case, read most of the information, etc. etc. and have always been on the fence about Darlie's guilt.

    The case frustrates me so I usually leave it alone for awhile and come back every now and again to see what is going on. I've recently been in an "off" period, but had "Hush Little Babies" in my nightstand drawer and pulled it out to read again.

    So I've been back on re-reading transcripts, statements, etc. and cannot believe this did not jump out at me before. I'm sure it has been discussed here before, but I think her guilt is finally hitting home for me now.

    One of the first lines Darin writes is, and I quote "We talked about the business, bills, and how Darlie was having a hard time with taking care of the baby's (all) today."

    I can start to see a scenario form - she complains about taking care of the kids and all the housework, etc., etc. and he counters with, what I think the reaction of some men would be, that he works 40 hours a week to bring home the money and all she has to do is take care of the kids and the house. (Haven't we all heard this kind of argument before in our lives?) Hence, the supposed fight, the talk of divorce, and possibly Darlie's ultimate breakdown.

    Any thoughts??

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    Quote Originally Posted by easybz
    Hi everyone: I have lurked on this board for a couple of years now - I have followed the Routier case, read most of the information, etc. etc. and have always been on the fence about Darlie's guilt.

    The case frustrates me so I usually leave it alone for awhile and come back every now and again to see what is going on. I've recently been in an "off" period, but had "Hush Little Babies" in my nightstand drawer and pulled it out to read again.

    So I've been back on re-reading transcripts, statements, etc. and cannot believe this did not jump out at me before. I'm sure it has been discussed here before, but I think her guilt is finally hitting home for me now.

    One of the first lines Darin writes is, and I quote "We talked about the business, bills, and how Darlie was having a hard time with taking care of the baby's (all) today."

    I can start to see a scenario form - she complains about taking care of the kids and all the housework, etc., etc. and he counters with, what I think the reaction of some men would be, that he works 40 hours a week to bring home the money and all she has to do is take care of the kids and the house. (Haven't we all heard this kind of argument before in our lives?) Hence, the supposed fight, the talk of divorce, and possibly Darlie's ultimate breakdown.

    Any thoughts??
    Of course we all have! But I worked then and it followed like this......Yes, I know you work...but all you do is watch kids add 1+1 and color between the lines! How hard is that!?! (teacher here) But my FIRST reaction was to slap the crud out of my husband...NOT to kill my kids.(My first husband passed away while the kids were still fairly young. I wish I had never had a cross word with him! ) Sorry...I think there was more to stress behind the killing of these kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by easybz
    Hi everyone: I have lurked on this board for a couple of years now - I have followed the Routier case, read most of the information, etc. etc. and have always been on the fence about Darlie's guilt.

    The case frustrates me so I usually leave it alone for awhile and come back every now and again to see what is going on. I've recently been in an "off" period, but had "Hush Little Babies" in my nightstand drawer and pulled it out to read again.

    So I've been back on re-reading transcripts, statements, etc. and cannot believe this did not jump out at me before. I'm sure it has been discussed here before, but I think her guilt is finally hitting home for me now.

    One of the first lines Darin writes is, and I quote "We talked about the business, bills, and how Darlie was having a hard time with taking care of the baby's (all) today."

    I can start to see a scenario form - she complains about taking care of the kids and all the housework, etc., etc. and he counters with, what I think the reaction of some men would be, that he works 40 hours a week to bring home the money and all she has to do is take care of the kids and the house. (Haven't we all heard this kind of argument before in our lives?) Hence, the supposed fight, the talk of divorce, and possibly Darlie's ultimate breakdown.

    Any thoughts??
    Yes, Darin had many subtle ways of pointing out Darlie's problems with the kids. Is it because he secretly wanted to expose her guilt but couldn't because of family pressure? Or was it just a way for him to keep suspicion off of him by shifting it to her?

    "The difference between fiction and reality? Fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy
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    I am so glad you revealed yourself easybz! I have a morbid fascination with this case and have been lurking on the Darlie board for a good six months. I haven't posted anything to date because I can't hold a candle to the "regulars" who post on this board; their dedication to and knowledge of this case amazes me. I teeter back and forth on the fence as well - wondering if there was an intruder; why the lack of evidence? and if Darlie did it; how did she get so severly bruised on her arms.

    Anyway, I think your theory about the Darin/Darlie fight is very logical. Although I cannot, for the life of me, imagine how Darin can come downstairs see his wife stabbing his children and then pull it together enough to plot a cover-up w/ her.

    Take it easy on me Darlie-gurus!

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    Almost forgot......

    Welcome, EZ. Gald to see you joining in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KatiesMom
    I am so glad you revealed yourself easybz! I have a morbid fascination with this case and have been lurking on the Darlie board for a good six months. I haven't posted anything to date because I can't hold a candle to the "regulars" who post on this board; their dedication to and knowledge of this case amazes me. I teeter back and forth on the fence as well - wondering if there was an intruder; why the lack of evidence? and if Darlie did it; how did she get so severly bruised on her arms.

    Anyway, I think your theory about the Darin/Darlie fight is very logical. Although I cannot, for the life of me, imagine how Darin can come downstairs see his wife stabbing his children and then pull it together enough to plot a cover-up w/ her.

    Take it easy on me Darlie-gurus!
    I think he was involved in the plot from the get go.

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    Welcome, Katie's Mom!

    The more the merrier on this board. Welcome and hope you join in as much as you can.

    "The difference between fiction and reality? Fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goody
    The more the merrier on this board. Welcome and hope you join in as much as you can.
    Yes...I agree. The more confusion, the merrier! Glad to see lurkers join in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deandaniellws
    Yes...I agree. The more confusion, the merrier! Glad to see lurkers join in.
    Hey, we gotta have some voices from the fence sitters and supporters or all we will have to post is "I agree"...."you think so?" ...... "is this the only case we have to discuss????"

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    Welcome!

    I generally think that when married couples have an argument, EVERYTHING that ever bothered either one of them is going to come out, so yes, I think we can assume that this was a topic.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Goody
    Hey, we gotta have some voices from the fence sitters and supporters or all we will have to post is "I agree"...."you think so?" ...... "is this the only case we have to discuss????"
    Well, I like to hear everyone's idea of how it happened. I also like to brain storm about the would have, could have, should have, because it gets us to thinking about some of the things that me might have missed. We go digging..then low and behold...we find something that we TOTALLY missed the first time around. Yes....fresh meat is always a good thing! "Welcome to my den," said the spider to the fly! J/K of course.

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    Hey, thank you for the welcomes!

    This case makes me insane. I make up my mind that she's guilty and then hop right back on the fence a couple of months later. I do not understand how that HOUSE would not be torn apart if Darlie was fighting off an intruder. If it had been me, I would have ripped the guy's face off - I may be dead, but his hair and blood would be all over the place. But her BODY looks like she was fighting off someone - the bruises, the wounds, etc. I know the cuts have been described as superficial, but couldn't one reason that since she was pushing him away, it prevented him from penetrating her neck deeper w/ the knife?

    and back to the topic of this thread; sorry for rambling above:

    I really, really struggle with Darin's involvement. If she did this, he HAS to be involved; there is NO WAY he did not hear his children being slaughtered in the living room.

    Okay, D & D have a major fight, he goes to bed in a huff and she sleeps on the couch. As she lays there stewing, she thinks, "Those damn kids, it's all their fault" and grabs a knife and starts stabbing them. Darin hears the commotion and runs downstairs and sees Darlie killing the children.
    SO instead of grabbing the knife and slicing her to bits, Darlie convinces him to help her invent an intruder story and cover the whole thing up??? I just can't get to that point w/ Darin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KatiesMom
    Hey, thank you for the welcomes!

    This case makes me insane. I make up my mind that she's guilty and then hop right back on the fence a couple of months later. I do not understand how that HOUSE would not be torn apart if Darlie was fighting off an intruder. If it had been me, I would have ripped the guy's face off - I may be dead, but his hair and blood would be all over the place. But her BODY looks like she was fighting off someone - the bruises, the wounds, etc. I know the cuts have been described as superficial, but couldn't one reason that since she was pushing him away, it prevented him from penetrating her neck deeper w/ the knife?

    and back to the topic of this thread; sorry for rambling above:

    I really, really struggle with Darin's involvement. If she did this, he HAS to be involved; there is NO WAY he did not hear his children being slaughtered in the living room.

    Okay, D & D have a major fight, he goes to bed in a huff and she sleeps on the couch. As she lays there stewing, she thinks, "Those damn kids, it's all their fault" and grabs a knife and starts stabbing them. Darin hears the commotion and runs downstairs and sees Darlie killing the children.
    SO instead of grabbing the knife and slicing her to bits, Darlie convinces him to help her invent an intruder story and cover the whole thing up??? I just can't get to that point w/ Darin.
    I know...another reason I think he was in on it from the get go. I want Cami and JDP to tell us why they think he isn't. They know bunches!

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    Quote Originally Posted by easybz
    Hi everyone: I have lurked on this board for a couple of years now - I have followed the Routier case, read most of the information, etc. etc. and have always been on the fence about Darlie's guilt.

    The case frustrates me so I usually leave it alone for awhile and come back every now and again to see what is going on. I've recently been in an "off" period, but had "Hush Little Babies" in my nightstand drawer and pulled it out to read again.

    So I've been back on re-reading transcripts, statements, etc. and cannot believe this did not jump out at me before. I'm sure it has been discussed here before, but I think her guilt is finally hitting home for me now.

    One of the first lines Darin writes is, and I quote "We talked about the business, bills, and how Darlie was having a hard time with taking care of the baby's (all) today."

    I can start to see a scenario form - she complains about taking care of the kids and all the housework, etc., etc. and he counters with, what I think the reaction of some men would be, that he works 40 hours a week to bring home the money and all she has to do is take care of the kids and the house. (Haven't we all heard this kind of argument before in our lives?) Hence, the supposed fight, the talk of divorce, and possibly Darlie's ultimate breakdown.

    Any thoughts??
    Welcome EZ and Katie's mom. I think it would be totally normal for Darlie and Darin to fight about this, who didn't at one time in their marriage. Those children were the source of her stress and depression along with the other things you mentioned, imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deandaniellws
    I know...another reason I think he was in on it from the get go. I want Cami and JDP to tell us why they think he isn't. They know bunches!
    The sloppiness of the crime. If they planned it together, surely they would have done a better job staging it. If they planned it together why stabbing in the middle of the night? I would have taken them to that boat and thrown them off and then jumped in and pretended to try and save them.

    It speaks to me of a rage killing, hence the need to bring in an intruder.

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