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    HI - Honolulu, WhtFem 460UFHI, 55-65, homeless, in Ala Moana Park, May'04

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/460ufhi.html

    Unidentified Living White Female

    * The victim was discovered on May 4, 2004 in Ala Moana Park, Honolulu, Hawaii

    Vital Statistics

    * Estimated age: 55 - 65 years old
    * Approximate Height and Weight: 5'5"-5'7"; 112 lbs.
    * Distinguishing Characteristics: White, grey and brown hair; hazel eyes.
    * Medical Conditions: She has schizophrenia.
    * Dentals: she has no teeth or dentures.
    * Fingerprints: Available.

    Case History
    The woman was located in Ala Moana Park, Honolulu, on May 4, 2004.
    This unidentified woman is a homeless individual who was living in Ala Moana Park. She was in need of medical attention and could not walk because of lack of strength. She was admitted into a state hospital where she is currently receiving treatment. She is unable to care for herself. She is schizophrenic. She is described as being very "proper" and having an "English-Canadian" like accent. She refers to herself as "Ah", with the sound being the "a" as in the pronunciation of the word "agreement". Based on investigative conversations with local social service organizations, she has probably been in Hawaii for the last 6-8 years.
    She is an avid reader. She is a smoker.

    Note at the National Center for Missing Adults she's described as 70-80
    http://www.theyaremissed.org/ncma/ga...hp?A200401620S
    Last edited by OkieGranny; 06-27-2016 at 05:15 PM. Reason: updated Doe link

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    http://www.nampn.doenetwork.us/cases/stewart_alice.html

    Alice Jewell Stewart

    Vital Statistics at Time of Disappearance
    # Missing Since: March 2000 from Merritt Island, Florida
    # Classification: Endangered Missing
    # Date Of Birth: August 23, 1923
    # Age: 76 years old
    # Height and Weight: 5'0; 90 pounds
    # Distinguishing Characteristics: Gray hair; hazel eyes. Stewart has surgical scars on her left elbow, her left hip and on her abdomen. She wears eyeglasses. Stewart has difficulty walking and occasionally uses a wheelchair for mobility. Her nickname is "Joy."
    # Medical Conditions: Stewart is in the advanced stages of Alzheimer's Disease. She no longer speaks audibly as a result of her condition and requires continuous medical care.

    Details of Disappearance
    Stewart was last seen at her residence in the 1000 block of Outrigger Drive in Merritt Island, Florida sometime during March 2000. She has never been heard from again. Stewart's son had been awarded temporary caregiver rights to his mother at the time of her disappearance. He has refused to divulge her whereabouts to authorities. Investigators believe it is possible that Stewart wandered away from her home in a disoriented state. She was reported as a missing person in May 2000, two months after she was last seen.

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    Possible match?

    Almost everything fits the estimates except the height. I'm wondering if the height for Alice is listed incorrectly? Especially since they likely got the information from her son....

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    I see a difference on the eyes, Alice Stewart's eye's appear "heavy lidded" and the unknown doesn't. But who knows what changes would occur after 6 or more years of being homeless. Also, I don't know how she would have managed to get from Fla. to Hawaii. But the stories are similiar enough, a similiarity in the noses, shape of the face. The last pic here really looks like her: http://www.nampn.doenetwork.us/cases/stewart_alice.html
    I say tip it and get it checked out.
    Just when I think that I have seen the most depraved things a human can do to another human, somebody posts a new story...........

    Why is it that when a custodial parent fails to provide for a child it is called neglect and is a criminal matter. But when a non custodial parent fails to provide it is called failure to support and is a civil matter?


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    I'm really debating on this one Mysteriew as I find only one of the pictures looks strongly like her... the other two photos of Alice look like a different person.

    My guess, if this is Alice, is her son took her to Hawaii and left her there. He was in charge of her care and won't tell LE where his mother is.

    I did try to find an email address and struck out for Hawaii. I tried Crime Stoppers in Brevard County and they don't have an email. I did find a "general" email address for the Sheriff in Brevard County that I might use... but I'm still not sure.

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    If she has been homeless for 6 years or so, then likely there would be quite a few changes in her looks during that time. That said, I think it may be suspected that Stewart is dead, but who knows what the son really did with her.
    Here is the Kauai police website:
    http://www.kauai.gov/Default.aspx?tabid=71

    If you don't find anything there you could contact the National Center for Missing Adults- contact info:
    http://www.theyaremissed.org/ncma/co...d=ncma_contact
    Just when I think that I have seen the most depraved things a human can do to another human, somebody posts a new story...........

    Why is it that when a custodial parent fails to provide for a child it is called neglect and is a criminal matter. But when a non custodial parent fails to provide it is called failure to support and is a civil matter?


    "Just when the caterpillar thought its world was over, it became a butterfly" ~ Michelle Knight

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    HI- UID ALIVE Female, Ala Moana Park, 4 May 2004

    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/n/newton_pan.html

    Pan lee Newton Missing since 1983 from CA.

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/460ufhi.html

    Unidentified amnesia victim, HI.

    The age is right, Pan lee more than likely had a "behavior disorder" and the UID has schizophrenia. Pan Lee also had reason to get away from the area she was in, since she was more than likely involved in criminal activity, and it said the the UID had been in the area for awhile. Then look at the long, long face that both of these woman have, and look at the ears.
    I thought this one was very strong. I submitted it a while ago and haven't heard back yet, but I thought that it should have a thread that is has been submitted.
    Last edited by Salem; 04-17-2011 at 11:53 AM.
    JMO. Unless there's a link, I can't prove it.

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    The age isn't really that close. Newton would be within six months of her 75th birthday and the UID is estimated to be between 55 and 65. We're looking at a 10 year difference from her suspected age and Newton's.

    Nonetheless, I think this was a good one to submit. The two women obviously have a lot in common as far as appearance goes. The shape of the two women's noses is what immediately caught my attention. Both are quite unique and they seem pretty darn close, at least to my eyes.

    They very well could be the same person, and I look forward to hearing the outcome of this.

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    Have you heard anything back on this one? I see a lot of similarities between the two women.

    The age for Jane Doe is the age she was when she was found, right? Pan Newton was born in June 1934, which would have made her one month shy of her 70th birthday in May 2004 when JD was found. If the upper age limit for JD was 65 (IMHO it's hard to guess her age from her photo because her teeth are missing) that's only a five year age discrepancy.

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    wow

    Wow. I am no expert, both those 2 sure look like the same person to me!

    And even though another poster stated there was like a 10 year difference.....considering how this woman may have lived, she may have aged quicker than most.

    Wow, I actually minimized one and put them side by side and it was astonishing. good work

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    Haven't heard anything, but I will be getting with them Monday to see if they ever went anywhere with this...and maybe harass in a nice legal way if they didn't.
    JMO. Unless there's a link, I can't prove it.


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    I may have to put off the phone calls, as I am experiencing the wonders of strep throat. But once I get better, I am going to see if this ever went anywhere, at the moment, all I can make is a froggy noise, so bear with me.
    JMO. Unless there's a link, I can't prove it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by not_my_kids View Post
    I may have to put off the phone calls, as I am experiencing the wonders of strep throat. But once I get better, I am going to see if this ever went anywhere, at the moment, all I can make is a froggy noise, so bear with me.
    Thank you for your hard work. Get better soon.

    Maz

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    I cannot wait to see the outcome of this, they really look alike!
    Hope you feel better soon

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    I think this is a very possible match as well! Look at the height/weight, and the bone structure in the face (cheeks and chin.) This will be interesting to see if it's the same person!

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    IMO, it certainly looks like Pan Newton!
    Thoughts and prayers for the people of Paris and all of France!

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