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  1. #16
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    http://host.madison.com/mobile/artic...1017c2e04.html


    Posted: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 12:00 am

    A group of siblings formerly of Mauston had a bittersweet reaction to a DNA test last week that revealed a Minnesota woman is not their long-lost sister, who they were told died in a fire more than 56 years ago.
    I'm inclinded to believe she perished in the fire. JMHO.

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    My question is regarding Jeannie's legitimacy. She was possibly illegitimate, but none of the others were? Did the other siblings have different fathers, even the 18 month old? Was the mother recently remarried! Or maybe Jeannie was the result of an affair? Could the girls real father wanted her and planned a fire as a distraction to take the child?

    If it was random then I would think the abductor would also take the younger child as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laura_Bean View Post
    I still say this case is eerily similar to the Sodder case that is also up here on websleuths. It just seems like that same eerie feeling as with the other case.
    I agree, it's very similar.
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    Such an interesting case. Strikingly similar to the Sodder case, I totally agree with the PP's who also pointed it out.

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    Where did the fire start? Maybe it was a rues to get the kids out. And either jeanne was who they were going to take. Maybe the 18 month old was the intended kid but jeanne was cloesest.
    It is weird. I wonder what relative she meant when the neighbor asked.
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    This reminds me of the Joan Gay Croft in 1947. Both girls were 4 years old. Both went missing in the middle of a crisis situation after having been seen safe. Both were being supervised by siblings. Both girls were blonde. I don't know that the cases are related, but there are similarities. There are differences, too. The biggest being it would have been possible for some to set the fire to cover up a disappearance but the Woodward tornado could not have been pre planned. There is also a lot of distance between Oklahoma and Wisconsin.

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    She was last seen in the front yard while the fire was being put out.
    What's more, I don't understand the supposition that Jeannie died IN the fire, if the official summaries say that she was last seen outside safely. Did perhaps someone see her running back inside, or think that she might have? Four years old is still a baby in many ways; if she remembered a beloved dolly was still in her room, I don't doubt she'd have tried to go rescue it.

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    Very strange case...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CastlesBurning View Post
    What's more, I don't understand the supposition that Jeannie died IN the fire, if the official summaries say that she was last seen outside safely. Did perhaps someone see her running back inside, or think that she might have? Four years old is still a baby in many ways; if she remembered a beloved dolly was still in her room, I don't doubt she'd have tried to go rescue it.
    I think purely because it's the most obvious solution. Accounts vary but the brother said he was told to look after Jeannie outside, implying she was sent out of the house into safety. However in the chaos of the fire, no doubt people weren't really paying attention to the little girl and what happened afterwards. So once the chaos has calmed down and the little girl is discovered to be missing, there are only so many options

    1)The brother's story that she was taken by a woman in a car
    2)She ran back into the house for something, or following someone and died
    3)That she ran away somewhere else
    4)Someone else took her, such as a family member

    IN regards to number 1 there is only a young boy's account - I suspect in 1949 this was maybe ignored or disbelieved.
    Number 3, as far as I have read there were no eye witnesses to say they saw a little girl in the area around the time of, or after the fire. And a 4 year old could only have got so far on her own
    Number 4 - there is no evidence of this at all

    So the police/fire department at the time probably took the most likely scenario, especially as forensic and fire scene evidence was probably slightly different to now. It was easier for them to believe she died. In the face of any other evidence, it does sound slightly more believable, although the lack of a body/bones is a bit of a hindrance.

    Strangely, as I was writing this, I wondered if maybe there was an accident whilst the fire trucks/cars attended the scene and maybe she was hurt then? Although why anyone would cover that up I'm not sure. but just a random musing


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    Quote Originally Posted by Laura_Bean View Post
    I still say this case is eerily similar to the Sodder case that is also up here on websleuths. It just seems like that same eerie feeling as with the other case.
    Exactly, I felt the same as soon as I read the first post. Both the Sodder family and Ricky's family believed that the fire was used as a distraction to kidnap the child(ren), and no bones from any of the children were found at either of the houses once they had burned down.

    What's more, the Sodder children disappearance occurred on December 24 1945, and Ricky Jean Bryant went missing on December 19 1949. So close together, and both less than a week before Christmas.

    It would take a car around 12 hours to drive from Fayetteville, West Virginia (Sodder disappearance) to Mauston, Wisconsin (Ricky's disappearance). (https://www.google.com.au/maps/dir/F...43.7971946!3e0)


    Is it possible that these two cases are related?

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    Summary: Jeannie Bryant's grandparents were watching her and two other siblings while her parents, Raymond and Opal Bryant, were gone. The family lived in a farmhouse a few miles from Mauston. That afternoon, a fire broke out. The rest of the family made it outside safely, but what happened to Jeannie remains a mystery. The 4-year-old girl's remains were not found amid the rubble. Suspicions later grew within the family that the fire was set to create a diversion, allowing a mysterious woman to show up at the scene of the fire and drive away with the toddler.



    http://www.postcrescent.com/story/ne...dren/98347286/

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    A "cold case" story about Ricky has just been published here: http://www.wiscnews.com/juneaucounty...444da8dfd.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by huntina View Post
    Exactly, I felt the same as soon as I read the first post. Both the Sodder family and Ricky's family believed that the fire was used as a distraction to kidnap the child(ren), and no bones from any of the children were found at either of the houses once they had burned down.

    What's more, the Sodder children disappearance occurred on December 24 1945, and Ricky Jean Bryant went missing on December 19 1949. So close together, and both less than a week before Christmas.

    It would take a car around 12 hours to drive from Fayetteville, West Virginia (Sodder disappearance) to Mauston, Wisconsin (Ricky's disappearance). (https://www.google.com.au/maps/dir/F...43.7971946!3e0)


    Is it possible that these two cases are related?
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    No. I am convinced that the Sodder children died in the fire that consumed their home. That case is all about the parents' being in denial due to grief.

    I am not convinced that Ricky Jean Bryant died in the fire that consumed her family home. It is possible, but I suspect that there was some kind of black market adoption arranged by the grandparents.

    It seems far-fetched to think that the fire would have been set for that purpose. It's more likely that the grandparents realized that they had just lost everything and that the number of mouths that they had to feed was one too many.

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