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    Yes, from my reading it appears that law enforcement of the day considered the Wilson/Moore, Mislich/Mansfield, and the Dawson murders officially "solved".
    The police and the newspapers considered all the cases potentially "solved" every time a new suspect was arrested. There are probably a half-dozen more names that could be added to the "suspect" list, as every time a person escaped an asylum they instantly became suspect #1 in any local murder. There are stories of police apprehending recently released convicts and "sweating" them for answers (how's that for an official law enforcement term? How brutal could those interrogations be, I wonder?)

    And I have to agree, anytime a black person was found to have any dealings with a white victim, he or she became a suspect...Regardless of evidence.


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    If you haven't read it already - This artcle from Crime Library is pretty good and in depth. It goes into a lot of detail about the crime scene.

    http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/n...illisca/2.html
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    Just bumping this thread up.

    I've been fascinated with this case since I first found the website dedicated to it two years ago.

    www.villiscaiowa.com


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    Thanks for bumping - neighbor!

    Have you watched the documentary about the murders? Villisca - Living with the Memory. You can get it on Netflix.
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    Isn't there a book about this case? Or am I thinking of the TV video alluded to earlier?
    I read somewhere that most or all of the alleged serial killer victims lived close to railroad tracks. The book - or video- was speculating that this was a serial killer who was a drifter. I think a suspect was named who died years later in an institution.
    It'll soon be 100 years- wonder if Villisca plans to do anything for that? Some towns would try to live that down but I'm glad some people still care.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Snick1946 View Post
    Isn't there a book about this case? Or am I thinking of the TV video alluded to earlier?
    I read somewhere that most or all of the alleged serial killer victims lived close to railroad tracks. The book - or video- was speculating that this was a serial killer who was a drifter. I think a suspect was named who died years later in an institution.
    It'll soon be 100 years- wonder if Villisca plans to do anything for that? Some towns would try to live that down but I'm glad some people still care.
    There is a book written by Roy Marshall in 2003 called Villisca, which says it is the true story of the Villisca Axe Murders. There was also a book written in 1986 as a novel based on the murders called Morning Ran Red by Stephen Bowman. Both books are available for purchase at the following website:

    www.villiscamovie.com

    If you click on the Emporium section at the bottom, there are other interesting publications for sale as well. This is the site that belongs to the filmmakers who made the documentary, Villisca: Living with a Mystery.

    I haven't heard of anything to commemorate the 100th anniversary yet, but I'm sure something will be planned for 2012.


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    I just stumbled upon this thread, and what timing too as today is the 97th anniversary of the murders. I just added the documentary to my Netflix queue, I can't wait to watch it.


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    The documentary was really interesting and well done. I thought the filmmakers did an excellent job of portraying the atmosphere of 1912.

    The crime scene was immediately contaminated with the whole freaking city trapesing through to view the bodies and take pictures.
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    Bumping. I came across this blog I had not seen before today which is appropriately title The 1912 Villisca Axe Murders Blog.

    http://docublogger.typepad.com/villiscamystery/
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    Quote Originally Posted by gaia227 View Post
    Bumping. I came across this blog I had not seen before today which is appropriately title The 1912 Villisca Axe Murders Blog.

    http://docublogger.typepad.com/villiscamystery/

    Thanks for the link, gaia. I was actually going to post that link last June and I didn't. I go there about once a week to see what new articles are there. Dr. Ed Epperly is the foremost authority on the Villisca murders. He has been researching them since 1955. I love the little bios he writes about people who might have been suspects or just people who were involved in some way, like the 2 guys who cleaned the house afterwards or Dona Jones, Senator Jones' daughter-in-law, who was suspected of having an affair with Joe Moore, one of the victims. The filmmakers, Kelly and Tammy Rundle, have a great website there at www.villiscamovie.com. There are others, but the Rundles have researched everything in detail and have enormous respect for the residents of Villisca, and it shows in the film. They didn't make the film for the shock value or paranormal aspects that some say exist. I've gotten to know them somewhat and still support their other films by writing reviews for amazon.com or the IMDb. They're really great people and, in my opinion, have the definitive website about the Villisca tragedy. But I do love that blog and all the articles on there. Thanks again.
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    I agree, this is an interesting crime. Out of curiosity I looked up the family's census record -

    1910 United States Federal Census
    about Josiah B Moore


    Name: Josiah B Moore
    Age in 1910: 41
    Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
    Birthplace: Illinois
    Relation to Head of House: Head
    Father's Birth Place: Ireland
    Spouse's Name: Sara
    Home in 1910: Villisca Ward 3, Montgomery, Iowa
    Marital Status: Married
    Race: White
    Gender: Male

    Household Members:
    Josiah B Moore 41
    Sara Moore 37
    Herman Moore 9
    Kathern Moore 8
    Boyd Moore 5
    Paul Moore 3


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cambria View Post
    Thanks for the link, gaia. I was actually going to post that link last June and I didn't. I go there about once a week to see what new articles are there. Dr. Ed Epperly is the foremost authority on the Villisca murders. He has been researching them since 1955. I love the little bios he writes about people who might have been suspects or just people who were involved in some way, like the 2 guys who cleaned the house afterwards or Dona Jones, Senator Jones' daughter-in-law, who was suspected of having an affair with Joe Moore, one of the victims. The filmmakers, Kelly and Tammy Rundle, have a great website there at www.villiscamovie.com. There are others, but the Rundles have researched everything in detail and have enormous respect for the residents of Villisca, and it shows in the film. They didn't make the film for the shock value or paranormal aspects that some say exist. I've gotten to know them somewhat and still support their other films by writing reviews for amazon.com or the IMDb. They're really great people and, in my opinion, have the definitive website about the Villisca tragedy. But I do love that blog and all the articles on there. Thanks again.

    I think it was you who recommended the documentary to me. It is really well done and not sensationalized at all. I think their website is great too. I haven't had the chance to poke around this blog as much as I would like yet.

    I was flipping through the channels the other night and Haunting Evidence on TruTV was on and they were doing the episode in Villisca at the house. I think that show is really cheesy and don't really believe anything they say as the female has been outed as a fraud many times but it was still interesting just given the subject matter. Both of the psychics separately (supposedly)came to the conclusion they were murders-for-hire and the person who hired them was .........(ER my memory) the older, wealthy man. I am sure you know who I am talking about. I could just look it up if I weren't so lazy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by gaia227 View Post
    I think it was you who recommended the documentary to me. It is really well done and not sensationalized at all. I think their website is great too. I haven't had the chance to poke around this blog as much as I would like yet.

    I was flipping through the channels the other night and Haunting Evidence on TruTV was on and they were doing the episode in Villisca at the house. I think that show is really cheesy and don't really believe anything they say as the female has been outed as a fraud many times but it was still interesting just given the subject matter. Both of the psychics separately (supposedly)came to the conclusion they were murders-for-hire and the person who hired them was .........(ER my memory) the older, wealthy man. I am sure you know who I am talking about. I could just look it up if I weren't so lazy!
    Yes, it was me who recommended the documentary. I thought it was very well done, and I try to promote it for the filmmakers whenever I can!

    I saw where that episode of Haunting Evidence was going to be on the other night too. I didn't watch it again. I agree, I don't think the show is credible at all. I watched all the episodes when it first came on but I noticed not one of the cases they took on was ever solved! I did see the Villisca episode the first time and I think it was Senator Frank Jones who the trio on the show said hired someone to do the murders. There was some bad blood between Senator Jones and the murdered man, Josiah Moore. Moore used to work for Jones in his implement store, but left to start his own business, which ironically was just across the street from Jones' store. Joe Moore also took the lucrative John Deere contract with him when he opened his shop. That coupled with the fact that Joe was allegedly having an affair with the Senator's daughter-in-law was the reason part of the town suspected that Jones hired someone to kill the Moore family and the Stillinger girls. I don't think Jones had anything to do with the murders but some of the townspeople did back then, and I think it was just a convenient conclusion for the psychics on Haunting Evidence to come to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cambria View Post
    Yes, it was me who recommended the documentary. I thought it was very well done, and I try to promote it for the filmmakers whenever I can!

    I saw where that episode of Haunting Evidence was going to be on the other night too. I didn't watch it again. I agree, I don't think the show is credible at all. I watched all the episodes when it first came on but I noticed not one of the cases they took on was ever solved! I did see the Villisca episode the first time and I think it was Senator Frank Jones who the trio on the show said hired someone to do the murders. There was some bad blood between Senator Jones and the murdered man, Josiah Moore. Moore used to work for Jones in his implement store, but left to start his own business, which ironically was just across the street from Jones' store. Joe Moore also took the lucrative John Deere contract with him when he opened his shop. That coupled with the fact that Joe was allegedly having an affair with the Senator's daughter-in-law was the reason part of the town suspected that Jones hired someone to kill the Moore family and the Stillinger girls. I don't think Jones had anything to do with the murders but some of the townspeople did back then, and I think it was just a convenient conclusion for the psychics on Haunting Evidence to come to.

    I have been so interested in these murders. I have read everthing I could get my hands on, e.g., coroner's inquest, books, Federal Census data, and etc.

    Based upon my research, I concluded that Martin Luther Kellums ought to be a leading person of interest for being the perp. He seemed so obvious to me, but it seems no one, including the authorities investigating the murder, ever gave him a thought. That is to say, except for the Stillinger family.

    If you read the transcript of Mr. Stillinger's testimony during the coroner's inquest, his family and him were clearly suspicious of Kellums being the murderer. If you read said transcript closely, Mr. Stillinger's testimony regarding Kellums seems like an ominous foreboding of the murder.

    Also, while I was researching information regarding the crime scene, I got the strong impression that the murderer had some kind of problem with his vision. Later, I reviewed Kellums' draft card for WWI, and the Army Sergeant noted on the draft card that kellums had a "defective right eye."

    Do you know if Kellums was ever on anybody's list of suspects? If not, do you know why?


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    Quote Originally Posted by del rio View Post
    I have been so interested in these murders. I have read everthing I could get my hands on, e.g., coroner's inquest, books, Federal Census data, and etc.

    Based upon my research, I concluded that Martin Luther Kellums ought to be a leading person of interest for being the perp. He seemed so obvious to me, but it seems no one, including the authorities investigating the murder, ever gave him a thought. That is to say, except for the Stillinger family.

    If you read the transcript of Mr. Stillinger's testimony during the coroner's inquest, his family and him were clearly suspicious of Kellums being the murderer. If you read said transcript closely, Mr. Stillinger's testimony regarding Kellums seems like an ominous foreboding of the murder.

    Also, while I was researching information regarding the crime scene, I got the strong impression that the murderer had some kind of problem with his vision. Later, I reviewed Kellums' draft card for WWI, and the Army Sergeant noted on the draft card that kellums had a "defective right eye."

    Do you know if Kellums was ever on anybody's list of suspects? If not, do you know why?
    I can't remember reading about Kellums at all. Of course, it's been a while since I read through all the transcripts and everything else. I sent a message to Dr. Ed Epperly, who is the foremost authority on the Villisca murders. He's been investigating and researching the case since 1955. I'll let you know what he says when he gets back to me. Thanks for your interest in the case.


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