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    GOOD Parents!!

    http://www.nbc4.tv/family/7409834/detail.html

    He was suspended from school for using foul language. But that wasn't punishment enough to Jamal's family.


    They made the teenager stand on a street corner with a sign telling the world about his dirty mouth. After standing on a corner in Portage for four hours, Jamal said he's learned his lesson.

    The rest is at link.


    Good for them!!!! I think they showed their son without harming him that bad behavoir has repercussions.
    Those parents that cry "I just cna't control my teen" should take a leaf out of their book!

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    I bet he don't even say dang....





    Thanks for reading my post!

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    amen parents. accountability, responsibility coupled with love, security and understanding = a very well disciplined highly effective human being!!!!!!!!


    GOOD FOR THEM! Gotta love creative parenting.

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    I was about as strict as they come with solid rules and logical consequences to any poor behavior. But,I have never been into public humiliation. I don't get this at all.
    I would definitley have punished on top of the school's suspension, but this is odd to me. JMHO of course.

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    Nope, I am sorry Jbean .. this is called "creative parenting"

    IMO being conscious of what others think is pretty much what motivates most into "normal" behavoir anyhow.
    Teachers hve used this method always and still do. I do not always agree with it, but in this case this kid learned a valuable lesson. Obviously speaking like trash in public did not humilate him.

    Judges have also used this method for adults.

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    I seen them on the news, I forget what day it was but they were saying that they think this is appropriate punishment. Hey to each his own, I say whatever works for your family, have at it.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBean
    I was about as strict as they come with solid rules and logical consequences to any poor behavior. But,I have never been into public humiliation. I don't get this at all.
    I would definitley have punished on top of the school's suspension, but this is odd to me. JMHO of course.
    I agree with you. I also feel that kids should be held accountable for their bad behavior but I think this is a little over the top.

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    I would never humiliate my child especially in public, but i guess some families think that is the only way to get it through their childs head. I seen a show one time as well where a girl did something like drinking and driving or something and part of her punishment was to wear a sign outside and she was humiliated big time!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amraann
    Nope, I am sorry Jbean .. this is called "creative parenting"

    IMO being conscious of what others think is pretty much what motivates most into "normal" behavoir anyhow.
    Teachers hve used this method always and still do. I do not always agree with it, but in this case this kid learned a valuable lesson. Obviously speaking like trash in public did not humilate him.

    Judges have also used this method for adults.
    I have used plenty of creative parenting,with 5 boys! It is not easy to reign supreme in a house of testosterone
    But as I say, humiliating publicly is counterproductive IMO. back to the days of stockades and throwing apples at bad people. not for me nope no way
    But I would imagine this kid was pretty out of control for them to have to go to these lengths, so maybe they have struggled with their parenting skills up to this point and are pulling out all the stops to gain control again.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JBean
    I have used plenty of creative parenting,with 5 boys! It is not easy to reign supreme in a house of testosterone
    But as I say, humiliating publicly is counterproductive IMO. back to the days of stockades and throwing apples at bad people. not for me nope no way
    But I would imagine this kid was pretty out of control for them to have to go to these lengths, so maybe they have struggled with their parenting skills up to this point and are pulling out all the stops to gain control again.
    Thats what it sounds like, the article said this was the second time he was suspended and he said there will not be a third, so maybe this felt like their only hope???

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    I guess I am not into "humiliation" either, talk about "degrading".

    But I am into taking away "the toys", going out, computer time, hanging out with friends, new items, phone, cell phone etc. The things that matter to kids and teens.

    I am also into: You swear, well you must pay for it. 5 bucks a shot. No credit. Can work it off........

    Reward the good behaviour, consequence the bad behavior. But with the natural consequences.

    Please....the "this is for your own good" is so yesterday along with "this will hurt me more then you".

    What if this happens next time....then what......tar and feather the child and then put him out on the street.............

    Or strip him down to his "shorts" and put him out on the street.....what is next.......

    I hope this child does not grow up to treat his children this way. Show your child love, respect, understanding, etc. Not abuse and humiliation.....that damages a child.

    I would never do this, as I have to look at myself in the mirror each morning.....and like what I see.

    I hope his mother is "of normal weight" because of course over eatting or not eatting properly is a "problem" that needs to be addressed.

    So I do hope this child gets a sign and carries it with him that say: My mother eats like a pig, she is too fat, look at her she is "overweight" last night she had 5 slices of chocolate cake. She is too fat........

    Do you think at this point the mother will say: I am never going to over eat again, I will lose weight.

    Please she will feel hurt and humiliated, that is the intent.......to harm.

    Humiliation is always regarded as a put down. In social contexts where it is regarded as "natural order" to have "higher" and "lesser" beings, "lesser" people are often routinely put down so as to "teach them lessons" and "remind" them of their due lowly place.

    So what is good for the son is just as good for the Mom. I bet the Mother taught the son the natural order of her "feeling" higher and the child being lower. Sure made the mom "feel" superior....to her own child.

    Humiliation of one person by another is often used as a way of asserting power over others, and is a common form of oppression or abuse.

    Still think that these people are good parents...........I don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by michelle
    Thats what it sounds like, the article said this was the second time he was suspended and he said there will not be a third, so maybe this felt like their only hope???
    Sounds like maybe they are desperate..in which case I guess whatever gets the child's attention may work for them. But I would think the child is already out of control if they are resorting to this. I can not even imagined ever needing to parade any of my children up the street and tell the world they were bad. LOL!

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    For those of you interested...

    Poetic Justice Houston, Texas

    A felony court judge in Houston, Texas for more than 22 years, Judge Poe garnered national media attention for his “Poetic Justice” in sentencing criminals. Among his innovative punishments, Poe ordered thieves to carry signs in front of stores from which they stole; required men who abused their wives to publicly apologize on the steps of Houston’s City Hall; commanded sex offenders to place warning signs on their home after serving jail time; and directed murderers to securely place a photo of their victims on the wall of their prison cells creating a daily reminder of their crime.

    In 1999, Judge Poe helped craft pioneering legislation allowing Texas judges to order public notice of a crime in probation cases. His public punishment approach has been showcased through media venues such as 60 minutes, 20/20, Dateline, National Geographic, and Australian, German, French, Bulgarian, Japanese, and British newscasts. Frequently, Judge Poe has appeared on FOX News Channel, MSNBC, CNN, and numerous local news broadcasts as a political and legal analyst.


    http://www.house.gov/poe/biography.htm

    I have to say that I agree with Judge Poe's "Poetic Justice"...I have seen some of these people carrying their signs. I have also read what they had to say about "Poetic Justice" after they had carried their signs--they said they had learned a valuable lesson and didn't want to ever go through it again!

    I feel fortunate that we never had problems with our two sons. There were rules and expectations--if they broke the rules they knew there would be consequences. I don't think we would have let our sons get so out of control that we would find it necessary to resort to sign carrying--BUT, if that was the only option left, then yes I might have considered it--just don't know for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amraann
    Nope, I am sorry Jbean .. this is called "creative parenting"

    IMO being conscious of what others think is pretty much what motivates most into "normal" behavoir anyhow.
    Teachers hve used this method always and still do. I do not always agree with it, but in this case this kid learned a valuable lesson. Obviously speaking like trash in public did not humilate him.

    Judges have also used this method for adults.
    amraan


    I do NOT BELIEVE THIS IS PUBLIC HUMILIATION AND DEGRADING, I believe this is using methods to make people more accountable for their actions and making it public, well that gives that person, child or whatever a lot to think about. We're NOT TOUGH ENOUGH WITH SOCIETY ANY LONGER. Make people become accountable once again and make them answer to society. If we start taking harsher stances and give tough discipline from the get go or after one or two chances - then kids get the message that "this parent is serious".

    I believe convicted child molesters that are re-released into OUR CIVIL SOCIETY SHOULD BE BRANDED ON THEIR FACE PERIOD. Would that be public humilation or would you all be glad to know if you're living next door to a pervert because of methods like this?!

    I believe wife killers and husband killers should also have some type of branding so others won't get sucked in. I believe that rapists should have castration and possibly public marking of some sort.

    I believe that children/teens that have violent tendencies should NOT BE PROTECTED AND HIDDEN FROM SOCIETY - they should be right out there with society telling them "WE'LL NOT STAND FOR YOUR CRAP" PERIOD.

    That's why I love the 3 strikes law. AND I DON'T GIVE A CRAP if their 3rd strike is because they stole a lolipop.

    We're not tough enough.

    When I was growing up and if I pulled something on the neighbour (for example) and got caught, that neighbour would wip my hiney take me home and then my grandmother would do the same! You think I WOULD TRY SOMETHING AGAIN? NOPE. It scared the crap out of me knowing SOCIETY WAS WATCHING ME AND HOLDING ME ACCOUNTABLE.

    NOW - do I believe in physical punishment such as spanking my children. Well yes and no. 2 out of 3 of my children have each had one spank in their lifetime on the bum with a bare open hand. Using something like that as a method of regular discipline - forget it. It was only used as a last measure.

    So that's my 2cents on this.

    let's get tough people and maybe we'll raise less spoiled little brats like the SP'S OF THE WORLD.

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