Raven - A life of FAILURES?

SouthEastSleuth said:

In re-reading Raven’s one and only blog entry (date Monday, April 25, 2005, 11:15 am) I’m struck again by his closing words:

"In summary, I feel my strengths and weaknesses have been molded from the way I was raised. Through the events of my childhood I was able to develop strengths that not only helped me survive my adolescence, but have proven to be a great attribute to the development of my personal and professional life. I also understand that I am able to change my weaknesses through my ability to adapt and that by doing so I will achieve success."

After all of these months, and with what we’ve come to know about Raven, I read his words, and I’m reminded of the many failures he’s had in his life. And it makes me wonder if Raven was and is always striving and pushing himself for things that in the end have always been beyond his grasp, his abilities, his means, etc. And it’s an interesting contrast to Janet’s successes. Was Raven in competition with her in some weird way? Was she a trophy to him, representing the things that he was NOT? Was he jealous of her successes?

I’m sure there are others, but I’ve taken the liberty here of listing some of the more obvious failures in Raven’s life, thus far:

- Dropped out of SVU - academic/educational failure

- Failed at being a soccer star at SVU - athletic failure

- Dropped out from serving his LDS mission - religious failure

- Soccer training business, 2nutmeg, failed - professional failure

- Employment history indicates MULTIPLE professional failures possibly - I mean how many jobs can one person have by the time they are 26?

- Financial chaos - fiscal failure

- Infidelity(ies) - marital/moral/ethical failure

- Eurosport embezzlement - ethical/moral/professional failure

And so where is Raven now?

Living with his mother? Working part-time at a bike store? Receiving government benefits based on his wife’s murder? Reporting to a probation officer as a convicted felon?

Don’t misunderstand me, there’s nothing inherently wrong with any of those things, well mostly, but, for someone as ambitious as Raven? With such lofty plans, goals, etc? Is life just one huge failure for Raven now?

One bright spot – Kaiden. Let’s hope that even if Raven fails at every single aspect of his life, that he can at least succeed at being a good father – but, who knows, perhaps he’s not even good at being a dad either – only time will tell.

Again:

"I also understand that I am able to change my weaknesses through my ability to adapt and that by doing so I will achieve success."

Someone, as I recall the person called themselves "karli boulden," once replied to the blog, "Very good reflection on your life and goals."

Well karli, to each his own, but with failure after failure in the life’s goals column, I don’t know, seems to me it’s time to re-evaluate the plan and strategy???

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SouthEastSleuth said:

Well karli, to each his own, but with failure after failure in the life’s goals column, I don’t know, seems to me it’s time to re-evaluate the plan and strategy???

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snapple said:

I heard a psychologist on a TV program once say; women tend to murder their husbands to get "rid" of them, but men usually kill their spouses to "keep" them. In their own messed up mind they don't want their spouse to leave, so they kill them to prevent them from going anywhere.

Janet may have just found out about raven pretending to go to work, the embezzlement, the lies..etc., and maybe raven thought Janet leaving him would be another "failure" stacked on top of all the rest and snapped....but then again, maybe he's just a selfish, preditory S.O.B

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• Coercion and threats
• Intimidation
• Emotional abuse
• Isolation
• Minimizing, denying and blaming
• Using Children
• Economic Abuse
• Male Privilege

• On average, more than three women are murdered by their husbands or boyfriends in this country every day. In 2000, 1,247 women were killed by an intimate partner. The same year, 440 men were killed by an intimate partner.16
• Women are much more likely than men to be killed by an intimate partner. In 2000, intimate partner homicides accounted for 33.5 percent of the murders of women and less than four percent of the murders of men.17
• Pregnant and recently pregnant women are more likely to be victims of homicide than to die of any other cause18 , and evidence exists that a significant proportion of all female homicide victims are killed by their intimate partners.19
• Research suggests that injury related deaths, including homicide and suicide, account for approximately one-third of all maternal mortality cases, while medical reasons make up the rest. But, homicide is the leading cause of death overall for pregnant women, followed by cancer, acute and chronic respiratory conditions, motor vehicle collisions and drug overdose, peripartum and postpartum cardiomyopthy, and suicide.20

JerseyGirl said:

VehiCROSS.info Forums - View Single Post - 99 Vx, Custom Black Paint, Lift, Tires, Must Sell

I am now working for an IT training company out of Raleigh, however I am not making near what I need to survive. I am still steadily interviewing for some higher paying jobs and one job I am in as a finalist.

I've decided that parting with the VX is going to be what I need to do. I am going to go to the complete lowest I can go to hopefully sell within 30 days as I am a few payments behind as of today and don't think I can catch up in my current state.

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terminatrixator said:

I begin now by wondering what kind of relationship Raven had with his Mother. I have not heard any reports of "physical abuse" but I wonder if there was "mental abuse" or "verbal abuse" in their relationship.

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terminatrixator said:

There are many different theories as to the cause of domestic violence. One of the leading theories is that domestic violence is fueled by a need for power and control over another person. The Domestic Abuse Intervention Project illustrated this by creating the "Power and Control Wheel" which shows power and control at the center, surrounded by spokes referring to techniques used, the titles of which include:

• Isolation

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terminatrixator said:

http://www.aic.gov.au/publications/rpp/18/comparing.pdf

Both Men and Women are more likely to be killed by knife or other sharp instrument.

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JerseyGirl said:

Perhaps the strategy was reevaluated already at some time prior to April 26, 2005.

I was looking through old VX posts of Raven's yesterday, and one of them has been standing out in my mind ever since. I don't have the exact quote in front of me (but I'll no doubt edit this to include it later). But in speaking about looking for a new job post-firing from ES, Raven said that starting over is very difficult.

...i remember that from "the early days " as well..........i can't find it on the VX posts........was it something he had written in his blog ? ( that he conveniently took down ?)

..i did find this, from the VX site..: ( my comments in blue ).

http://www.vehicross.info/forums/showthread.php?postid=49972#poststop

Help Please- Cylinder misfire and Timing Belt

12/02/2004, 02:45 PM
First off, I've been off the website for a few months now, only checking back a couple times here and there. My wife and I had our first child. You can check out pictures here...( "here"of course will bring you to "page not found", thanks raven .)

Second and most important. ( MOST important--------is the VX????? nice to know that an oil change comes in ahead of your newborn son and his mother..))I took my car into a repair place Monday for an oil change, tire rotation, and new Timing Belt. Looks like a half day's of labor turned into a three day project. Seems that the Water Pump they wanted to add was the wrong one, then the Timing belt wasn't "Timing" right and they couldn't figure it out. Then it looks like the gasget cracked and oil was leaking, then the timing was still off... Finally on Thursday afternoon I pick up my car. They only charged me for three hours of labor even though it took them forever.

I get my car and drive off into the sunset. Well, when I start her up she doesn't seem to be reving up right, the idle is in between 0-1,000 RPM's and just doesn't sound right (hell, I have a PV muffler if you wanted to know). ( actually raven, no-one could care less---but if you felt the need to include it, i guess it matters to you--should we call that Third and next important ?)I head onto the onramp of the freeway and it spudders a little bit as I floor it and the CHECK ENGINE light blinks rapidly twice or three times and then stays on. I take the VX back to the repair shop and they said that the computer code is "Cylinder 5 Misfire" and the code was reading this when I came in. I just drove the thing 700 miles this weekend for thanksgiving ( oh really--------thanksgiving 2004------------where did raven go? and with whom ?) and the light did come on once and I figured it was for the timing belt or the maintenance. Anyway, my car doesn't feel right, I'm afraid I've got some engine failure going on and I was wondering if anyone had any advice for me.

I feel kinda cheated here causee I expect to get my car back better then when I brought it in since I paid $450 for them to do all that stuff. What do you recommend?

Thx
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-The Rave-
North Carolina

..yep, i know how you feel raven......."kinda cheated"...(you're moaning and complaining non-stop about your vx in dec..........and then 5 months later-----------when your wife is found MURDERED-------we haven't seen a sign of your moaning and complaining about that..........oh right, she would be " 4th........and totally not important........?)

..for a guy as internet savvy as you are raven-------all the IT training--------where's the on-line "justice for janet?" surely you could throw together a website in an instant--------don't you care ? did you ever ?

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JerseyGirl said:

I was looking through old VX posts of Raven's yesterday, and one of them has been standing out in my mind ever since. I don't have the exact quote in front of me (but I'll no doubt edit this to include it later). But in speaking about looking for a new job post-firing from ES, Raven said that starting over is very difficult. I wonder if a part of Raven decided that if you have to start over, you might as well start from square one. It's a creepy thought in the mind of a normal person but in the mind of a sociopath, it's simply part of a calculation. Considering Raven's affinity for Franklin Covey programs, I can't help but wonder if he didn't sit down with pen and paper (or laptop), and calculate all of the reasons to continue with life as it was before April 26, 2005 or to throw all caution to the wind and just go for it - get a brand new start - new home, new job, new state, new family. And again, I've often wondered how Kaiden fits into all of this. Was it that the murderer simply couldn't harm him? Or was the murderer more concerned that harming Kaiden as well would make it easier to identify him....

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JerseyGirl said:

And even after that, jager said that Raven seemed more upbeat than ever! Probably because he was pulling in money for nothing on his e-bay sales ... and interestingly, even while selling on e-bay, he changed his name to reflect his new status ... lostmyjobsales. Doesn't sound like someone who's overly embarassed or broken up over his lost job. If anything, he found a way to use his new status for more sympathy. Maybe hoping that people would bid higher when they saw that he had no job.

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SouthEastSleuth said:

That has always amazed me. He gets caught. He gets arrested. He's facing charges in a few months. Yet, he simply carries on - presumably with his existing "inventory," and simply changes his eBay moniker TO EVEN REFLECT THAT HE'S "LOST" HIS JOB!

No shame.
No remorse.
No guilt.
No conscience.

Even down the road when he says to the judge that he embezzled to pay bills (HA!) - as if that it's perfectly acceptable; as if embezzlement is just no big deal. Well, a felony conviction IS a big deal. But, perhaps for someone like Raven, it takes a long while for that to sink in, if ever!

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