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    CA - Kristin Smart, 19, San Luis Obispo, 25 May 1996

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    Missing Persons Cold Case Network file: Kristin Denise SmartVital Statistics at Time of Disappearance Missing Since: May 25, 1996 from San Luis Obispo, California Classification: Endangered Missing Date Of Birth: February 20, 1977 Age: 19 years old Height and Weight: 6'1; 145 pounds Distinguishing Characteristics: Dark blonde hair, brown eyes. Smart's nicknames are "Roxy" and "Scritter." She had a tan at the time of her May 1996 disappearance. Details of Disappearancehttp://www.angelfire.com/mi3/mpccn/ksmart.html

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    Does anyone know why www.sonofsusan.com has been disabled? Will it be activated again?Thanks!jat

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    Jat, I don't know. I wasn't even aware of it until after you mentioned it and I clicked on the link. I checked the Smart family website and there's no mention about it. In fact they still mention the sonofsusan website and provide a link. Maybe it's just a technical problem.
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    I just checked again now and www.sonofsusan.com is back up there. Must have been a technical problem. I thought maybe Paul Flores gave in and cooperated, as the message always says the website will be taken down once he does. Oh well, wishful thinking.
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    I checked it out today, and it looks like we have a civil trial coming up for PF! Should be interesting to see all of the evidence against him presented in a court of law.


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    Wow! That is pretty interesting. Thanks for the info.

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    Oh my God, this is absolutely great news! I'll have to talk more about this later!
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    I just checked the son of susan site today, and Dennis goes into great detail about the case through an email that Kristin's mom sent him. It sounds promising, but I'm still not ready to get my hopes up that this civil trial will bring resolution for the Smart family. Unbelievably, the Sheriff's department is refusing to give the Smart's lawyer what info they have! They're even fighting the subpoena. Now, why would they do this? So, if the lawyers don't have new info. when they go in front of a judge in November, the judge can throw out the case, allowing Paul to walk away from this once again. I'm going to try to see if there's some victim's organization or something that helps families out in times like this. It's so frustrating!

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    Oh that is crap. What is wrong with them?! I really feel it's because they had/have info that they know to others would look like they blatantly neglected to follow up on and they're worried that the family may sue them too. Oh well, too bad. The family has every right to do what they have to do in order to find some sort of resolution with this case. It's been over seven years now. Just because the lines between the role of campus police and city police were blurry back then shouldn't mean that there is no way to legally work things out now.
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    Still waiting for news on the police department fighting the subpoena. In the meantime, for the sake of speculation, let's pretend that LE has to hand their reports over. Has anyone heard of a situation where there's a civil trial before the criminal trial? Do you think a criminal trial is a possibility after the civil trial in this case?


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    Lil'star: yes, from what i understood from reading the sonofsusan website, a criminal and civil lawsuit can be totally unrelated. There can be a civil trial, and then a criminal trial....I hope that DM and the smarts get that little creep!Did you read on the website that "kristin isn't considered a victim because there isn't a body!" unbelievable!

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    http://www.sonofsusan.com/NewsGood.html


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    That's great news, looking forward to hearing the updates and everything on it soon. I can't wait till we can "know" everything!
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    quote: While invoking the Fifth Amendment can't be held against a person in criminal court, it can be used in civil court. from http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/7391.htmI found this in an article about Etan Patz, but I thought it was also relevant to Kristin's case. They're so going to get PF

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    Dennis Mahon's website has been updated with new information:
    http://www.sonofsusan.com/Decenber30th2003.html

    Also, these pages were linked to, which I'd never read before, so I thought I'd post them in case they become hidden again. But, there's some really interesting information I'd never heard before that I'd like to discuss if anyone gets a chance.
    http://www.sonofsusan.com/BigStory.html
    http://www.sonofsusan.com/SearchParty.html

    Happy New Year, everyone, and let's hope this year brings closure to the families of all of the missing!

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    Oh my gosh! Kristen has been on my mind so much the last few days. I couldn't find her thread on WS and couldn't remember the name of Dennis's website. I finally found it yesterday but did not see the pages you posted.

    It seems that everything leads back to Paul Flores (big surprise) and now this Jeremy guy. Maybe something will come of this new information.

    I can't imagine the hell that the Smarts and other families must be going through, not knowing where their loved ones are...

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    http://www.sonofsusan.com/Union76Station.html

    I really hope that this means that people are finally starting to talk and bring the Smarts the answers that they have been searching all of these long years for.

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    An update on why Susan Flores' backyard has never been dug up to look for Kristin:
    http://www.sonofsusan.com/Shawn.html

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    For Kristin, and for her family who love and miss her, so much.

    Praying for answers and justice, Lanie

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    Litlstar, I hadn't read that article before..thank you for posting it. I knew there were some sort of search that went on there but I wasn't sure how extensive it was..I did know that the concrete slab was never investigated.
    I still think there is something to do concrete slab. I don't care whether or not the bloodhounds didn't come across anything. It could have just been too long afterwards. I don't know.

    Wasblind/Lanie, Thanks for giving this thread a bump. I think Kristin's birthday is coming up soon this month too.

    (By the way..Happy Belated Birthday, Litlstar! :HappyBday Sorry I missed out saying that on your actual b-day! )

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    Paul Flores is a creep!
    http://www.sonofsusan.com/PeepintTomPoliceReports.html

    (Thank you for the birthday wish, Up2! )

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    Anyone know someone in Amsterdam?
    http://www.sonofsusan.com/Holland.html

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    I guess we should be shocked he hasn't left sooner. I hope they still try to keep tabs on him if he does go over there. I'm getting an Ira Einhorn feeling about this.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Litlstar04
    Anyone know someone in Amsterdam?
    http://www.sonofsusan.com/Holland.html
    According to the link you posted, DM writes "I have already spoken with contacts who have their own contacts in Holland and the ball is already rolling."

    From what little I do know of DM, he's covered all his bases.

    Bless you all for caring about Kristin and all the missing and those left behind to search for them.
    With love and hope, Lanie
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    Litlstar, What is your opinion of Rex Krebs as a suspect?
    This is a good article. Hope to see you over yonder if you have time.

    Posted on Sat, Apr. 17, 2004

    Remembering victims, not crimes

    Annual weeklong event honors lives lost, affected by sexual assault

    Laurie Phillips

    The Tribune

    CAL POLY - On Friday, the Jennifer Street Bridge became the place to remember Rachel Newhouse -- as she was before she crossed it.

    Many local people know the story of the Cal Poly student's attack and abduction from the bridge more than five years ago. Rex Krebs, convicted for the crimes, took her to his Avila Valley property, where she was raped and asphyxiated.

    But Cal Poly students pointed out that most people don't know enough about the life Krebs took and the lives of countless sexual assault victims.


    San Luis Obispo Tribune

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    Question New Search - Late July

    Just curious. Has anybody seen or heard the findings of the last search that happened for Ms. Smart back in late July? I havent talked to Dennis Mahon lately and I wondered if anybody on here has a news article or something?

    Ms. Denise Smart is a very kind lady. She's fought so hard to find Kristin since she disappeared. My thoughts and prayers are with the Smarts.

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    News Tidbit on Smart Search

    Dennis Mahon told me last night that the current search for Kristin Smart has been going slow. He said that they are having problems with smog in that area which hender the abilities of the cadaver dogs. I dont think the current search has been halted, just on a day and then off again.

    Also they are saying that the billboard that was put up is what brought in the anomyous tip. This is a good thing to hear. These things do help.

    www.sonofsusan.com


    Thinking of Kristin Smart and those searching for her.

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    I was curious if anybody ever looked into the disappearance(s) of Rachel Newhouse and Aundria Crawford and if that man (I forgot his name, Rex Crebbs maybe?) who is in jail now could have possibly been involved with Kristin Smart's disappearance? A&E did a show on this on Tuesday night and I noticed the area was the same. The police on the show said they did not know but it was possible he was responsible for more?

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