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    As Annasmom and I drove up Purissima Creek Road, she was identifying who lived in each house in 1973 and whether they still lived there. Half Moon Bay is a small community and the odds of Anna being raised there without being seen by someone who knew her are nill. (There is even a member here who was in Anna's kindergarten class and still follows the case to this day.) Your thoughts and even dreams are welcome here, but I doubt that in this case they are true.

    There is always still the possibility that Anna fell into the creek, though I doubt that occured since it has been thoroughly explored numerous times without any evidence uncovered. Also, the fact that even if a body had eluded discovery in the immediate aftermath of Anna's disappearance, it would have undoubtedly been found sometime in the subsequent 33 years by a rancher or a fisherman along the creek. This also holds true if Anna were abducted by a predator and was killed in the immediate area - on the day that Annasmom and I travelled the road, there were at least two dozen cars parked at the trailhead near the farm with hikers swarming over a lot of different territory. Surely someone would have come across a body during this long period of time if it was there. (Just to be clear before any theories pop up about the hikers - the park and trails were not there in 1973. They are a relatively recent addition to the area.)

    Concerning "I am glad the tot is dead" comment by George Waters to Brody: I am not sure what to make of it. It could mean that they had nothing to do with Anna's disappearance and just assumed that she was dead after a period of time, or it could mean that they were involved and knew that she was dead. Between the two choices, it makes me want to hope that they did not have anything to do with it (which would leave open the possibilty that Anna is alive). There are other, more esoteric possibilities such as "Anna" was dead, but the girl we know as Anna was alive under a different identity - one never knows for sure what these loons meant when they spoke. I personally have just set that statement aside for the moment to allow myself the freedom to let my mind consider any possible solutions.

    While we have concentrated our research on Waters and Brody, I try to remain open to other possibilities. Since the couple in the car seem to have played some role in the disappearance, we know of at least two people that were involved (four, if you believe that Waters and Brody had a hand in it). Brody and Waters are dead, but chances are that the couple in the car are still alive. Hopefully, some clue will lead us to discovering their identities which may lead us to an answer about Anna.

    There is always the possibility that someone else besides these four were responsible and I have tried to explore any possibilties that arise that do not fit the Waters/Brody theory. I have received names and reports of incidents that may be related to the case from various researchers here and have tried to slueth out any connections to Anna. I have quietly looked into the Church of Satan, the Temple of Set, and the People's Temple as possibile places that may have had motivation to abduct a little girl. I have looked at the Zodiac Killer and other serial killers who operated in the same general time and space as Anna's disappearance. I have examined other missing children from this same era and any sexual predators who may have been in the area. While anything is possible, nothing makes as much sense to me as an abduction orchestrated by Brody and Waters for some sort of financial gain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elberethe
    **Quite a few of the current residents of Purissima Creek Road lived there in 1973, but others have continued to live in the HMB area, yet have moved from the place on the road (Annasmom is one example). **

    Ok, just found this in the Brody/Waters thread. Hope it isn't too invasive for me to ask you how far away you moved and if anyone still lives at the old place (family or otherwise). Do you visit someone back there or go back there for some reason? Like do you still have family or other friends who live out there?
    Elberethe, I have read your dream posting twice now and will read it again. Our family moved from the place Anna disappeared about a year later. I am the only one from the nuclear family still close by, and I now live maybe 14 miles away from Purisima Canyon. I do still know one family which lives in Purisima, and as I said in the other thread, Doogie and I drove up and down the road several times last Saturday. We also drove down the canyon road which joins up with Purisima. There is yet another canyon roughly parallel with Purisima which is much more rural and spread out and which connects at one end with Highway 35 (Skyline) and at the other end with the Coast Highway. Doogie and I had no reason to travel down this long, winding road, since we were mostly collecting post office box numbers for the mailing of the flier informing neighbors that the search for Anna was still on, and giving them contact information. These were mailed Monday.
    I am very touched that Anna's case is so much on your mind that you dreamed about it. I appreciate your insight.

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    Hi Doogie.

    Hope I didn't offend you. It certainly was not my intention and I see how much work and how much leads you have followed. No one can question how hard you have worked on this. I sure hope you aren't missing time with Annasmom to talk to me! HAH! I should just drive out there if that is the case. Seriously, though, it was just a dream and while it left some very strong impressions on me (as such dreams would do), it doesn't equate to any real information.

    I will be honest with you, and say I have always (since first reading about this) believed she fell in the creek and just wasn't found. It is possible, however unlikely it may be. Mud could have covered her .. slides .. covered by debris and she never be found. The earth is unforgiving in this way. It gives up only what it wants to give up.

    After the dream, I'm certain she is not there though. I can't explain why or offer any logical reasons such as you do. It did make me start to think in other directions more seriously, however. I'm also just as certain the Brody/Waters team didn't have anything to do with it. I know that goes against your gut feeling and so much work and I'm very sorry for that. I mean no disrespect to what you have done. None at all.

    I also don't think they could purposely hurt/kill her either from what I have read here. Do you feel different? Kidnap, yes. I just strongly believe they are clueless. Did Waters really say that about being glad the tot was dead? He is a weird one, but honestly, Doogie, I can't see him feeling that way. I could see him saying more to the effect of being glad he doesn't have to pay child support, but that is way different then being glad someone (your own child) is dead. Not doubting you; just find it very hard to wrap myself around that really being said.

    I also have been to Half Moon Bay. I lived there for a bit in the mid 80's and no one knew it. Care to know how? Yes, it is a small community and I agree if she was in school someone would recognize her. However, I strongly disagree that if she is there that someone would notice and know who she was. While not heavily populated (when I was there) it is very spread out and has very remote areas. The community may be close, but I assure you that not everyone living there is part of that community. (Unless an aweful lot changed in 10 years .. it sure did here in SR). At that time, I believe transients (farm workers for 1) were common there. It has also been a bit of a "touristy" area (even then). I mean there were visitors to the area who didn't stay long.

    Besides, even in the closest of communities, we don't really know everyone. People are often not who they appear to be. How often, lately, have you heard neighbors of some community exclaim to the effect "he/she was so nice. I can't believe they would do such a thing?!"

    How does that tie in to her still being in area? I have my ideas. Again, no proof though. I just think this needs to be explored more and I know you are doing all you can. I'm not questioning your efforts at all. You have done an amazing job. I'm only thinking in another direction .. as a woman, I will call that my perogative.
    Why do I see so many angels everywhere, when I have so little faith in people? How can so much good exist among so much bad? Why don't my 2 angels desert me? There are others who deserve them more.

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    One more quick example of the highlights (lowlights?) of what has been looked into: the musician Neil Young lives in the area not far from the place were Anna disappeared. Somewhere, in the back of this dustbin I call a mind, I recalled that a member of the band Crazy Horse (whom Neil records with frequently) was denied entry into the United States due to legal troubles and thought I remembered that it was for statutory rape. Letting my mind go to the possibilty that the bandmember could have been in the area in January 1973, I checked the discography of Neil to see if he could have been recording an album at his ranch at that time with Crazy Horse. I could never locate any information about the nature of the bandmember's legal troubles, so eventually I gave up this pursuit. (Annasmom, sometimes ya' just gotta look for zebras too.)

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    Thankyou for answering that question Annasmom. That makes sense to me that you are still in the area but not the exact same place. I don't want to give you any false hopes or such, but it does make sense with what I dreamed and believe.

    Also, I think anyone who reads your story and comes to know Anna through your eyes, is going to always have you both on their mind. All the more reason to get that book out there. You can never have too many eyes watching. If I touched you at all then it is only because you (and Anna) have touched me.

    If there is anything I can do, please don't hesitate to ask. I realize I get on odd tangents at times. I have a tendency to approach things from a different perspective then other people. Sometimes seems a curse, but I have also seen it have good results for others. I'm Native American so please forgive my awkward way of approaching problems. Most is cultural differences.

    By the by, you can kick the AC out there anytime now .. it is getting kinda warm inland here
    Why do I see so many angels everywhere, when I have so little faith in people? How can so much good exist among so much bad? Why don't my 2 angels desert me? There are others who deserve them more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elberethe
    Hi Doogie.

    Hope I didn't offend you. It certainly was not my intention and I see how much work and how much leads you have followed. No one can question how hard you have worked on this.
    I am not offended at all - I just wanted to demonstrate that other theories were being looked at in addition to the Waters/Brody theory. I appreciate any input that people can offer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Doogie
    One more quick example of the highlights (lowlights?) of what has been looked into: the musician Neil Young lives in the area not far from the place were Anna disappeared. Somewhere, in the back of this dustbin I call a mind, I recalled that a member of the band Crazy Horse (whom Neil records with frequently) was denied entry into the United States due to legal troubles and thought I remembered that it was for statutory rape. Letting my mind go to the possibilty that the bandmember could have been in the area in January 1973, I checked the discography of Neil to see if he could have been recording an album at his ranch at that time with Crazy Horse. I could never locate any information about the nature of the bandmember's legal troubles, so eventually I gave up this pursuit. (Annasmom, sometimes ya' just gotta look for zebras too.)
    Couldn't agree more, my friend, especially when you've looked at most of the horses. But our dream author has a legitimate point. Lots of Coastside kids are home-schooled and don't really circulate in the community. I just ran into a piano parent a couple of days ago and said I couldn't believe how seldom I saw any one of my hundreds of (I'm not exaggerating) former piano students, some of which still live here. I accused them of hiding when they saw me, still feeling guilty about not practicing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Doogie
    One more quick example of the highlights (lowlights?) of what has been looked into: the musician Neil Young lives in the area not far from the place were Anna disappeared. Somewhere, in the back of this dustbin I call a mind, I recalled that a member of the band Crazy Horse (whom Neil records with frequently) was denied entry into the United States due to legal troubles and thought I remembered that it was for statutory rape. Letting my mind go to the possibilty that the bandmember could have been in the area in January 1973, I checked the discography of Neil to see if he could have been recording an album at his ranch at that time with Crazy Horse. I could never locate any information about the nature of the bandmember's legal troubles, so eventually I gave up this pursuit. (Annasmom, sometimes ya' just gotta look for zebras too.)
    I didn't know he lived near there! Yes, a very strange angle to pursue. You are certainly looking at things I would not think much of. I suppose that is possible, but I like your "Occums Razor" thing and really think this is as simple as abduction by someone wanting a child. No one famous or terribly weird involved. No cults or such. Just someone desperate and selfish. Someone who doesn't feel any empathy for others; who puts their own needs above those of others. Someone you wouldn't know because you would never run in those circles. Make sense?
    Why do I see so many angels everywhere, when I have so little faith in people? How can so much good exist among so much bad? Why don't my 2 angels desert me? There are others who deserve them more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elberethe
    If there is anything I can do, please don't hesitate to ask. I realize I get on odd tangents at times. I have a tendency to approach things from a different perspective then other people. Sometimes seems a curse, but I have also seen it have good results for others. I'm Native American so please forgive my awkward way of approaching problems. Most is cultural differences.

    By the by, you can kick the AC out there anytime now .. it is getting kinda warm inland here
    Elberethe, it's 50 degrees where we are! One of my sons (Annasbro) was adopted by a Lakota tribe in North Dakota and given the name Plays the Earth. He did some recordings with them. I have always believed that Native Americans are more open to dream messages than some of the rest of us.
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    Elberethe and your point is well taken. I guess that I may have been hasty in saying "nill" - a more thoughtful answer would have been "unlikely" (but this case gets more unlikely everyday!). This makes the article in the HMB Review even more important. Annasmom, have you seen any hard-copies of the new edition yet?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Annasmom
    Couldn't agree more, my friend, especially when you've looked at most of the horses. But our dream author has a legitimate point. Lots of Coastside kids are home-schooled and don't really circulate in the community. I just ran into a piano parent a couple of days ago and said I couldn't believe how seldom I saw any one of my hundreds of (I'm not exaggerating) former piano students, some of which still live here. I accused them of hiding when they saw me, still feeling guilty about not practicing.
    We are so on the same wavelength, I don't have to tell you much. My dream told me that too .. this is stuff you already know. I think maybe just kinda put on a back burner. Yes, homeschooling is what I thought as one possibility. If any schooling at all (depending on how low life this person is and face it .. anyone stealing a child is pretty low life). In and out of the community is another possibility. I'm sure you can think of just as many other possibles.

    Please don't feel hopeless though. There is a link somewhere. Something that connects this person to you. I don't believe for a minute this was a random abduction. They had opportunity. Just my gut there.
    Why do I see so many angels everywhere, when I have so little faith in people? How can so much good exist among so much bad? Why don't my 2 angels desert me? There are others who deserve them more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Annasmom
    One of my sons (Annasbro) was adopted by a Lakota tribe in North Dakota and given the name Plays the Earth.
    I was chased off tribal land once in Nevada and was given the name "Plays with Self", but thats a different story...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Annasmom
    Elberethe, it's 50 degrees where we are! One of my sons (Annasbro) was adopted by a Lakota tribe in North Dakota and given the name Plays the Earth. He did some recordings with them. I have always believed that Native Americans are more open to dream messages than some of the rest of us.
    Oh what a wonderful name! You must be very proud of him (I am)! I never had an American Native name. What an honor. My son just got home from school (15 years) and saw your post and now he wants a Native American name. Hahah. I will be busy now, as you can imagine. Glad we got to talk some.

    Again, keeping you in my prayers and thoughts. I really feel a new hope for the return of Anna. Maybe your son can ask the Lakota to give her a name. I would love to know what they come up with. I bet it would be beautiful!
    Why do I see so many angels everywhere, when I have so little faith in people? How can so much good exist among so much bad? Why don't my 2 angels desert me? There are others who deserve them more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Doogie
    I was chased off tribal land once in Nevada and was given the name "Plays with Self", but thats a different story...
    /comfort Doogie. Funny guy.
    Why do I see so many angels everywhere, when I have so little faith in people? How can so much good exist among so much bad? Why don't my 2 angels desert me? There are others who deserve them more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Doogie
    Elberethe and your point is well taken. I guess that I may have been hasty in saying "nill" - a more thoughtful answer would have been "unlikely" (but this case gets more unlikely everyday!). This makes the article in the HMB Review even more important. Annasmom, have you seen any hard-copies of the new edition yet?
    I'm printing it off the web page at this very moment (www.hmbreview.com). WebSleuthers, I have to tell you that both Doogie and I are MUCH better looking than that picture. It looks like a good story to me. What do you think?

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