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    Family thanks to Websleuths.com

    Thanks for posting rpipergirl. To all Websleuthers: If you ever wonder if you do any good from your discussions and investigating, let me assure you that you are making a difference in many lives. You gave the Elizabeth Gill Family hope and inspiration to go very public with our search. The first woman we compared DNA with, contacted us after seeing Beth's story here on Websleuth.com. Because of you we had Beth listed with NCMEC and started pushing the police to reopen the case. From there friends and family again started internet searching and actually located "persons of interest" from 1965. The FBI after 45 years of giving no help became actively involved - following old leads and developing new ones. So far DNA has been ruled out for 3 women with 4 still pending. I doubt any of this could have happened without this wonderful group searching for answers. Beth is not back with her family but we will never give up looking and praying for her return. God bless all of you and know that many are grateful for all your efforts. http://www.kfvs12.com/Global/story.asp?S=14180146
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    Sister of Cape girl missing 46 years to speak in Jefferson City

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    A Cape Girardeau woman whose toddler sister disappeared in 1965 will be one of two keynote speakers at the event meant to bring awareness to the more than 1,200 people missing in the state.

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    Martha Hamilton, sibling of missing Elizabeth Ann Gill, will be joined by B.J. Spamer of the University of North Texas, who will speak of the significance of DNA and the National Missing and Unidentified Persons System -- an online database with information about missing-persons cases.

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    Gill was last seen playing in the yard of her home on Lorimier Street. A search for Gill began 30 minutes after family reported her missing. The family continues to believe one of investigators' biggest leads, that a group of "gypsy travelers" selling purses door-to-door kidnapped Gill. The travelers used various names and numerous license plates on their Chevrolet truck, making them difficult to track.

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    I have just finished reading this thread and my heart goes out to the Gill family.

    Is there any current new on the search for Elizabeth?

    My thoughts and prayers are with Moon, Moo and the rest of your family, that Elizabeth will be returned to you soon

    Moon, your song was beautiful and a tribute to the love that you still hold for Elizabeth.

    God bless.

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    Hi Moon, and all Gill family, I am a member of Beth's FB group. Such a wonderful bunch of people dedicated to finding Bethy. I wanted to send my love and support to you, I pray Beth is found soon.
    Question: In regards to the motel, were all patron's looked into? I realize then they didn't have credit cards used the same as today but wondering if any names were given to you to search for Beth.
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    Missing Elizabeth Gill

    OK, I'll try this again...had a legnthy reply just go away without it posting.
    No, LE were not smart enough to check all the guests at the motel....they didn't even talk to all the employees - just our neighbors...DUh! They were either convinced Beth fell in the river or were too stupid to know how to investigate a missing child case. It still amazes me that the case file just "disappeared" from the Cape Girardeau Police Dept! Makes me wonder if there was something in it that someone was hiding or they were trying to cover up their incompetence. The 4 people of interest were "gypsies' and staying at the motel...the police could never find them, though they had license plates and vin # on 2 new vehicles - a 1965 Chevy PU and a 1965 Ford Thunderbird. You'd think LE could have contacted Ford and Chevy to find any time the cars came in for warranty work. The vehicles were purchased in Lake Orion, MI. We - esp. my friend Roger, located relatives of these people last year. One has been interviewed 3 times and won't talk to LE - now she says she doesn't know anything - but in the first interview she had a very convoluted story - LIE- that tells us she knows something!!! 3 of the 4 have died and the last one has alzheimers. The one interviewed is old and not in good health. I pray she finally tells what she knows or Never Rests in Peace! Most of our leads have gone back to southern MI or to eastern PA. To be so close to answers but not finding the pieces we need gets so frustrating, but we're not giving up. I have some ideas on the next course of action, so don't be surprised if we are back in the news again. We've had so many "signs" not to give up, I'm not stopping now. Thanks for all your support and please join our Facebook Group: http://www.facebook.com/?ref=logo#!/...ndingBethGill/
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    Oh Thanks Moo!
    Sorry you had repeat the motel details... Such a shame (dang) that the motel guests and employee's were not fully looked into. When it was mentioned that the Gill home backed onto or near the motel I thought... that's it, it's gotta be! Someone from the motel.
    It is extremely suspicious that the file has gone missing, perhaps it was just misfiled?? Have you double checked on that Moo? Hate to say it but do you think if you offered some $ she may open up? You know, gypsie and all she might re think and spill? It is worth it, even if not over the top amount. I'd do anything to get her to talk before it's too late.
    Again, thank you for this reply, much appreciated. :-)

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    Reward

    FYI Sidekick - I did offer the "gypsy" woman money but guess it wasn't enough to make her come clean. I'm about to launch a campaign to raise money from other sources to make the reward substantial. If she won't talk there could be someone else in that family who knows what happened. Who knows who would suddenly have an "epiphany" or moment of recall if the money was right. If I can get a large reward it might just bring answers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moo View Post
    I'm about to launch a campaign to raise money from other sources to make the reward substantial. If I can get a large reward it might just bring answers.
    Please post the information for sending donations to the reward fund!
    Crime and the fear of crime have permeated the fabric of American life. --Warren E. Burger

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    Has there been any sort of investigation into the police department? Anything suspicious with any officers or clerks or anyone there? Just reading this thread for the first time and the fact that both files disappeared really stood out as odd.

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    New info on Elizabeth Ann Gill

    Elizabeth's (Beth) case has always been a police involved case. Several years ago we convinced a Cape Girardeau detective, Jim Smith, to relook at information we had and keep the investigation going. He and I then approached the FBI. With info we had and what the FBI could confirm, Beth's case was reclassified officially from a 'missing child' to a kidnapping. At that time we had some good national media coverage, but like most cases, the media went on to other stories. Our local CBS station (KFVS12.com) has been wonderful in covering all they can on the story. We really need to get national attention again - especially in the northeast and southeast. Those are areas we have traced some of the 'persons of interest' to. I feel so blessed to have outlets such as this one to help spread the word. With God's help and those that have done so much for our family, we will find Elizabeth Gill...Please join out Facebook Group "Finding Beth Gill" Bless all of you who are helpingour family and others find answers they so need to find!
    http://www.kfvs12.com/story/17160780...-disappearence

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    http://www.semissourian.com/story/1836693.html

    Thursday, April 12, 2012 ~ Updated 7:00 PM
    By Scott Moyers

    Search for Cape girl who vanished in 1965 continues with help of Florida private investigator

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    ...Gill's family has brought in private detective Mike Neverett of Sarasota, Fla., who is in town this week on a pro-bono quest to scratch away at the past in hopes of digging up clues about exactly how the little girl disappeared and -- hopefully -- where she is today, alive and well as an adult perhaps unaware herself of her true identity.
    More at link.

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    I so hope this new private detective is able to find Elizabeth. Not a day goes by that I don't think of her and hope for her being found. There is a funeral home in Edwardsville, IL that is used by a bunch of gypsies from all over the country. Apparently back in the fifties or so, they had a death while in the area and the funeral director treated them decently so the head of the clan decreed that they would always use them. I don't know why I felt like sharing that, the Edwardsville Paper had something about this some years back. I don't have the article anymore. I guess i was thinking that if Elizabeth was raised and kept by them, maybe she comes back to Edwardsville with them for the funerals. Maybe 15 or so years ago, my husband and I were in Edwardsville one Saturday and saw a gypsy funeral procession (store owner told us what it was). It was something.

    Anyway thoughts and prayers that Elizabeth is found soon.






    All kinds of hugs!

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    http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/m...9bb30f31a.html

    Posted: Monday, April 16, 2012 8:44 am

    Cape Girardeau family still looking for girl missing since 1965

    Smith said information that he would not explain led him to interview an elderly woman whose sister and brother-in-law were in Cape Girardeau when Elizabeth disappeared. Smith also said that the woman's relatives drove a vehicle that matched the description of the one linked to the girl's possible kidnapping.

    The woman told Smith they traveled the "flea-market circuit" selling purses.

    Later, the FBI interviewed the elderly woman's sister at a nursing home in South Carolina, but she was suffering from Alzheimer's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kat View Post
    http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/m...9bb30f31a.html

    Posted: Monday, April 16, 2012 8:44 am

    Cape Girardeau family still looking for girl missing since 1965
    The interesting thing about Alzheimer's is the woman may recall more about 1965 than she does about yesterday. I know that is very true for a family member of mine that has it.






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    Any new info? I hope the elderly POI talks soon!

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    Unfortunately the travelling community is very "insular" by nature. I know that the children in the communities are looked after and cared for by all members of the community. I hope that the more exposure this case gets that someone (perhaps someone in the travelling community) will recognise that beautiful little face and come forward.

    Never forgotten.

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    Elizabeth would have turned 50 last month...


    Elizabeth Gill
    Missing 13 June 1965
    From Cape Girardeau, MO

    Vital Statistics

    Age: 2
    DOB: 21 August 1962
    Sex: Female
    Hair: Brown
    Eyes: Blue
    Height: 2 ft 6 in
    Weight: 22 lbs

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    Hotline: 1-800-843-5678

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    well I think they have to take this case to the TV shows,showing her story and photograpfs, someone will recognize her or maybe she will watch that show, media is so important!
    prayers!

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    FOR THE MISSING: PACIFIC NORTHWEST - Highlighting missing persons in the Pacific Northwest - www.facebook.com/missingnorthwest / www.twitter.com/MissingNW
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    Elizabeth Ann Gill went missing at age 2 1/2 on 6/13/65 from Cape Girardeau, Missouri. Beth was playing outside with the
    other kids in the family. When they were called to come inside, Beth was not to be found. Hundreds of volunteers spent days searching the area. The leads were few and FBI at that time had rules precluding them from taking the case. That was changed in the 1980's. In August 2010
    the FBI officially entered the case and has been following leads the family has given them. Please google: Elizabeth Gill missing Cape Girardeau and you will find page after page of information on this case. I was able to post "The Story" God bless all who've helped us with their thoughts, prayers and support. Anyone with ideas or information can post here or privately email me at: findingbeth@yahoo.com
    Martha Gill Hamilton, Sister
    She is now 48 years old and her family will never stop searching.
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/findingBethGill/

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    Reward bringing new leads

    New leads are coming in from the posted reward. Spread the word and help bring Elizabeth (Beth) Gill home.
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    very intriguing and the song tribute to Bethy from & by her sister is so sweet & moving...best of luck for Beth to be found

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    i pray that you are able to find her - i will try to share your links on my social media profiles!

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    Thanks to all helping bring 'Beth' home, and please repost Elizabeth (Beth) Gill's info and Facebook Page https://www.facebook.com/groups/findingBethGill/
    Our family realizes the answers we seek, may not have a happy ending, but we truly believe our Beth is alive and has no idea she was abducted and raised by non-family. She may believe she was legally adopted. While many abducted children are murdered, statistics show 80% of babies/toddlers are taken because someone wants a child. Back in the 1960's there were numerous black market adoptions. Since law enforcement can't force the one person who may have answers to talk and the $25,000 reward hasn't brought any info forward, we believe Beth will have to be searching for answers and find us. Every time someone spreads the word we have a better chance of the info reaching Beth. God bless and thank you all for your support and assistance in "Finding Beth Gill."

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    Cleveland case gives hope in local missing-person cases

    The discovery Monday in Cleveland of three women who disappeared more than a decade ago has lent hope to families and investigators searching for missing people in Southeast Missouri.

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    "Even though our case is totally different, it still pushes us to continue on, because miracles do happen, and we see that," said Martha Hamilton, whose 2-year-old sister, Elizabeth Gill, disappeared June 13, 1965, while playing in the front yard of her home on Lorimier Street.

    More: http://www.semissourian.com/story/1966887.html
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