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    Quote Originally Posted by PrayersForMaura View Post
    OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) Oklahoma on Friday became the fifth state to allow the death penalty for certain sex crimes, although legal scholars questioned the constitutionality of the new state law.
    Under the measure signed by Gov. Brad Henry, anyone convicted twice for rape, sodomy or lewd molestation involving children under 14 can face the death penalty.

    South Carolina's governor signed a similar law on Thursday allowing the death penalty for offenders convicted twice of raping children younger than 11. Louisiana, Florida and Montana also have laws allowing the death penalty for certain sex crimes.

    Defense attorneys and death penalty experts said the laws defy recent U.S. Supreme Court decisions that have scaled back the death penalty's application.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snick1946 View Post
    Before we carry the celebration too far step back a bit and think of the ramifications:
    Isn't this going to lead to a situation in which a sex criminal will be more likely to kill his victim if he knows he will face the death penalty?
    At one time some states had the death penalty for kidnapping and that's what happened, there were cases in which people were murdered as a result.
    Good intentions- end result is fraught with danger in my opinion.
    Perhaps, but if the perp values his/her own life more than the law could also be a deterient from going thru with this act. If someone is going to kill, they will, not b/c of some law but b/c they choose to. IMO find this justification for not making the DP part of the consequence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snick1946 View Post
    Before we carry the celebration too far step back a bit and think of the ramifications:
    Isn't this going to lead to a situation in which a sex criminal will be more likely to kill his victim if he knows he will face the death penalty?
    At one time some states had the death penalty for kidnapping and that's what happened, there were cases in which people were murdered as a result.
    Good intentions- end result is fraught with danger in my opinion.
    Perhaps, but if the perp values his/her own life more than that of the child could also be a deterient from going thru with this act and face the death penalty. If someone is going to kill, they will, not b/c of some law but b/c they choose to. IMO find this justification for not making the DP part of the consequence for the death of a child without merit.

    If they truly want to stop from killing or molesting our children there are organizations they can reach out to for help. If they choose not to then they must live with the consequence.

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    Even significant jail time would be a motive to kill the victim. I'm tired of seeing child molestors walk after serving a few years. When they get out, they're even more dangerous. I like the idea, but life in prison without the possibility of parole would be my second choice.
    How about only killing them when there is DNA evidence present ?

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    Next step, get the same law passed nationwide! I know we could sure use it in Ohio! Although, I agree that they shouldn't get a second chance, which allows them to destroy 2 lives!

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    I assume that the law would only be actually applied in the most extreme cases, such as a violent rape by a stranger. I doubt that anyone would be sentenced to death in non violent cases, no matter how many victims there were or how many times the perp reoffended. Reoffence is more likely to be a lengthy jail sentence.

    The law would encourage perps to kill their victims under these circumstances since it would reduce the risk of getting caught, and since the penalty would be the same.

    I guess the question for parents is this, which would you prefer if your child was raped, get them back alive or get them back dead? Because that is the scenario that is being set up.

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    Laws like this are challeged so much by the bleeding heart anti-dp crowd, its seems futile to try to pass them. Didn't Georgia have one thrown out recently?
    What they ought to do, IMO, is have mandatory sentencing laws for these crimes. Child rape, first offence,= LWOP.
    We have mandaory sentencing for drug and gun crimes, why not for child predators? Who would you rather have as a neighbor, a former crack dealer, or a former child rapist?
    The former crack dealer MIGHT have learned the error of his ways in prison.
    JMO

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    People who violently rape a child generally get sent to prison for a vey long time, so that isn't an argument.

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    We have that law on our books in Louisiana but the supreme court won't let us carry out the executions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PHB View Post
    Laws like this are challeged so much by the bleeding heart anti-dp crowd, its seems futile to try to pass them. Didn't Georgia have one thrown out recently?
    What they ought to do, IMO, is have mandatory sentencing laws for these crimes. Child rape, first offence,= LWOP.
    We have mandaory sentencing for drug and gun crimes, why not for child predators? Who would you rather have as a neighbor, a former crack dealer, or a former child rapist?
    The former crack dealer MIGHT have learned the error of his ways in prison.
    JMO
    I would like to see LWOP for all acts of violence, not just rape. Hit your spouse, game over. Get into a bar brawl, game over. Road rage, game over. Threaten someone, game over. Not interested in excuses.

    Criminals should only be allowed out of prison or some sort of controlled environment if their offences are statutory in nature.

    We need to have a zero tolerance policy towards any of that.


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    IMO, these creeps do not deserve LWOP because we the people have to feed, house, clothe and give medical care forever with this economy...........bring back hanging.
    Seriously a rope is cheaper. JMOO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimberlyd125 View Post
    We have that law on our books in Louisiana but the supreme court won't let us carry out the executions.
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    That was what I was thinking of.

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    Also, say a predator commits his crime at 20 years of age, and recieves a 30 year sentence. Why wouldn't he be dangerous at 50 years old? John Couey was in his late 40's when her killed Jessica Lundsford, and I think Alfonso Rodriguez, who killed Dru Sjodin, was 50.
    So getting "sent to prison for a very long time", clearly is not good enough.

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