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    CA - Santa Monica, WhtFem 380UFCA, 33-43, German accent, Mar'05

    I haven't seen this posted.

    http://santamonicapd.org/Bulletins/2...ToIdentify.htm

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    On March 14, 2005 at 9:40 a.m., an unidentified female subject was found deceased in the 1600 block of Santa Monica beach. The victim was possibly a German National having recently arrived in the United States. She has a possible first name of “Martina” and spoke with a heavy German accent. She is thought to have been homeless and to have frequented the Santa Monica and Venice beach areas.
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    2005 has she been identifyed yet poor girl . ooops sorry cant spell today

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    Quote Originally Posted by redeskimo
    2005 has she been identifyed yet poor girl . ooops sorry cant spell today
    Not that I can tell. I had originally found a more recent article, but the one I linked had more info and pictures. Maybe this thread should be moved to cold cases.

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    Observations on this:

    It is said that she was homeless, but had blond highlights. I am curious if they were natural (from the sun) or chemical highlights? If she had chemical highlights, she had to have some kind of money to pay for them. Perhaps homeless only a few weeks/months? (It does say she frequented the beach area only about two weeks.) Also, if she was German, why was the tattoo in English, not German? If she were found in the ocean, how do they know her eye color? Based on observations of others before her death?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julessleuther View Post
    Observations on this:

    It is said that she was homeless, but had blond highlights. I am curious if they were natural (from the sun) or chemical highlights? If she had chemical highlights, she had to have some kind of money to pay for them. Perhaps homeless only a few weeks/months? (It does say she frequented the beach area only about two weeks.) Also, if she was German, why was the tattoo in English, not German? If she were found in the ocean, how do they know her eye color? Based on observations of others before her death?

    If she was a transient I would assume the highlights to be caused by the sun; but you're right...a better explanation is needed.

    There is a link on Namus for her. Sadly no pictures, but it does have a small list of rule-outs.
    https://identifyus.org/cases/3091

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    Nancy Grunwaldt
    http://www.missingpersons.gov.au/profile.aspx?ID=1249
    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1523dftas.html

    Very much a longshot, a German tourist who went missing after phoning her parents in 1993 upon her arrival in Tasmania. She normally worked as a travel agent so maybe moving between countries would have been less of a big deal to her than most. The recon looks a little like her, even though she is recorded as black hair/green eyes. Mostly I'm posting her so that if we get post mortem pictures or dental pictures later, whoever starts working on this Doe then can be reminded to make a quick comparison just to be sure.

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    CA - Santa Monica, WhtFem 380UFCA, 30-43, Possible German National, Mar'05

    Here is my facial reconstruction for this Jane Doe.



    https://identifyus.org/en/cases/3091
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    Quote Originally Posted by CarlK90245 View Post
    Here is my facial reconstruction for this Jane Doe.



    https://identifyus.org/en/cases/3091

    i wouldn't totally rule out the possibility she is hispanic. I myself am full hispanic and I have naturally dark red hair and light skin, lots of hispanics are very, very light. Just letting you know Looking at your reconstruction, she does look like she could be hispanic or Caucasian. Considering the Jane Doe is 4'9", i am betting she probably was hispanic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CarlK90245 View Post
    Here is my facial reconstruction for this Jane Doe.



    https://identifyus.org/en/cases/3091
    for image revision.

    I had this recon posted to the wrong thread (473UFCA), so in addition to posting the revised recon, I moved the posts to the correct thread.

    Both Jane Does were found near the Santa Monica pier. This is the Jane Doe who spoke with a German accent, had "Thank You" tattooed on her wrist, and was found in the ocean near the pier.

    (This is not the Jane Doe 473UFCA who was on a bench next to the pier. That Jane Doe is the topic of the following thread)

    CA CA - Santa Monica, Wht/HispFem 473UFCA, 50-65, On Bench at Santa Monica Pier, Apr'94 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community
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    The NamUs site has the tattoo listed as "I Love You".

    https://identifyus.org/cases/full_report/3091

    The Doe Network has the tattoo with photo
    that is shown as Thank You.

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/380ufca.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Treelights View Post
    The NamUs site has the tattoo listed as "I Love You".

    https://identifyus.org/cases/full_report/3091

    The Doe Network has the tattoo with photo
    that is shown as Thank You.

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/380ufca.html
    I noticed that. It clearly looks to me like "thank you", though that is a bit strange to have those words tattooed.

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    Ruleouts from Namus as of Dec. 11 2013:

    Shannon Arif 1977 Tennessee
    Mary Badaracco 1946 Connecticut
    Kelli Cox 1976 Texas
    Tina D'Ambrosio 1961 Arizona
    Carol Donn 1963 Florida
    Lourdes Dubyak 1956 California
    Shelley Hoke 1969 Arizona
    Mary Knightly 1969 Delaware
    Penny Lease 1965 Illinois
    Parley Pate 1959 North Carolina
    April Pitzer 1974 California
    Gail Russel 1965 Florida
    Patricia Schmidt 1964 Virginia
    Tiffany Sessions 1968 Florida
    Carmela Yacavino 1961 New Jersey

    https://identifyus.org/en/cases/3091
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