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Four people, including a 16-year-old boy, were killed early Saturday in a shootout and a fifth person was in critical condition, police said.


The 16-year-old and two men were found dead inside a sport utility vehicle rammed up against a pole and the fourth victim was on a sidewalk, said police spokesman Gary Flot.

The wounded man was lying in the street a short distance from the vehicle, police said.

The names of the victims were not immediately released.



http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060617/ap_on_re_us/new_orleans_shooting&printer=1


 
Thank-you for the post DK.news link
NEW ORLEANS — Five people ranging in age from 16 to 19 were killed in a street shooting early Saturday, the most violent crime reported in this slowly repopulating city since Hurricane Katrina hit last August.

All were believed to have been gunned down while inside a sport utility vehicle that was found rammed against a utility pole in the Central City neighborhood just outside the central business district.

Authorities said they were looking for one or more suspects but did not elaborate.

Capt. John Bryson said police think the shootings were either drug-related or some type of retaliation attack. A semiautomatic weapon was used and "multiple, multiple rounds" were fired, he said.

"I think the motivation we're looking at is pretty obvious," he said. "Somebody wanted them dead."
 
Gang shootings happen all the time in big cities. Not to discount any of it but it happens. Retaliation is the most common response.Macho, irresponsible mechanisms, age and stupidity reign.
 
"Central City?" That must be a relatively new neighborhood designation, because I never heard it used when I lived there in the 1980s. From the vauge description, it sounds like what used to be called "Lower Magazine" or "The Bend", just beyond the Irish Channel and the Lower Garden District.

I've been hearing that the gangbangers are back in NO, but they're now moving into what were previously (mostly) safe upper middle class neighborhoods in what's known as Uptown and Mid-City since the Lower 9th and Gentilly are gone and much of the the old Faubourg was demolished as well.
 
That is what I think it is too.They move out from the quarter as tourist or locals with means do.
 
BillyGoatGruff said:
"Central City?" That must be a relatively new neighborhood designation, because I never heard it used when I lived there in the 1980s. From the vauge description, it sounds like what used to be called "Lower Magazine" or "The Bend", just beyond the Irish Channel and the Lower Garden District.

I've been hearing that the gangbangers are back in NO, but they're now moving into what were previously (mostly) safe upper middle class neighborhoods in what's known as Uptown and Mid-City since the Lower 9th and Gentilly are gone and much of the the old Faubourg was demolished as well.
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A photo on http://www.nola.com/ puts it at the corner of Danneel and Josephine.
 
Eoanthropus Dawsoni said:
A photo on http://www.nola.com/ puts it at the corner of Danneel and Josephine.
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That would put it north of the Irish Channel, about two blocks off Jackson Avenue and 6 blocks up from St. Charles. Jospehine runs from Roman to Robertson, just East of Jackson Avenue and intersects South Claiborne Avenue, doglegs, then continues to run to Tchopitoulas, which is the river drive. It's north of the Irish Channel and Southwest of the CBD. That neighborhood has always been dicey. There used to be a nightclub on nearby S. Claiborne Avenue called "Backstabbers Disco". As for it being redubbed "Central City", I think that is the area that used to known locally as "Pigeon Town".
 
Hey DK,

Mark my words,MS-13 is behind this.
Also authorities should look into this gang when there are unsolved assaults,rapes or killings of Afro-American women.That is one of the criteria that a prospective gang member needs to do to become a part of this gang.When they are jumped in,they are beaten while members count to 13.
They are also "coyotes" that bring illegal immigrants to the US.
 
dark_shadows said:
Hey DK,

Mark my words,MS-13 is behind this.
Also authorities should look into this gang when there are unsolved assaults,rapes or killings of Afro-American women.That is one of the criteria that a prospective gang member needs to do to become a part of this gang.When they are jumped in,they are beaten while members count to 13.
They are also "coyotes" that bring illegal immigrants to the US.
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There are so many gangs in NO--all of them murderous--that it's anybody's choice. When I was there the big gangs were the Black Spoons and the Steppin' Razors (who had former Ton Ton Macoute from Haiti). After the LA riots--I left the city a few months after that-- the Crips and Bloods popped up there, as they have everywhere else, along with the Latin Kings. The last time I visited the city (1996) there was a running gun battle between Crips and some other gang around 2am, with the thugs shooting at one another across Canal Street, one friend got robbed at gunpoint at a convenience store around the corner from the hotel, and another had his van stolen. All on one weekend. Mind you, that was nearly a decade before Katrina
 
Well,the National Guard has been called in. IMO they should have never left in the first place. Last night on Anderson Cooper 360, the report on the city stated that of the 53 murders that have occured in the 2006 calendar year, 40 have happened since March! And 53 homicides for a population of 200-250k is staggering, to say the least. Also the only reason the city finally asked for the NG to come back is because 4 conventions cancelled with the city on Monday.
 
dark_shadows said:
Hey DK,

Mark my words,MS-13 is behind this.
Also authorities should look into this gang when there are unsolved assaults,rapes or killings of Afro-American women.That is one of the criteria that a prospective gang member needs to do to become a part of this gang.When they are jumped in,they are beaten while members count to 13.
They are also "coyotes" that bring illegal immigrants to the US.
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MS-13 is a bad group. Dekalb County LE just left the property I'm working on.....the graffiti of this gang is back up. We had covered over it last week. The "tags" must be importent to them. Anyway, the police and all of us are being more vigilent
 
Ugh MS-13 is horrible here!

Yep they tag sorta like a dog peeing on a wall to mark their territory. This is mine and you can't have it. Then others tag over it in a sign of disrespect.

Almost like when my kids were tiny. The oldest would draw a picture and keep the crayon. The younger would then get mad and draw over his pic. Mine I tell you and if you won't give it to me I'm gonna do this or that. Only difference is I punished mine when they were acting that way and the gangs never had any kind of raising. Bunch of babies with guns who instead of pouting, shoot.

When we were in New Orleans about 3 weeks ago most neighborhoods felt seedy because most of them are empty. I didn't venture far. We were in Harahan and dh was working. The only time we had for looking around was in the evening time and I didn't feel comfortable riding around at night.
 
I don't have a link, but the former police chief for Orleans Parish was on Nancy Grace last night talking about the primary reason the NG has been called in has to do with looting in the Lake View and 9th Ward areas. Those areas still have no lights or water, so people who are repairing their homes in those sectors work on them during the day then go stay the night elsewhere. The areas are virtually deserted during the day and completely so once the sun sets. Looters come in and steal the replaced applianes, etc. during the night. (In many cases they make away with arcitectural details like french doors, leaded glass windows, cornices, etc.) What's happening is that most of the people who have been looted this way basically throw up their hands and say "screw this" and move away from NO for good. With the NG patrolling these areas at night, the cops are free to deal with prblems in the occupied parts of the city.
 
They are stealing copper hand over fist! Out of air conditioners and plumbing.

The lower ninth ward has safe drinking water...the 10 blocks closest to the Mississippi. They turned that back on in May. Most of the other parts have water but have to boil it. The areas North of Derbigny Street do not have water though. Not understanding why they are telling people to come back when they don't even have the basics of water and can't be protected.

I personally didn't see any bad things going on, but I didn't see a lot of good things either. They just now in early June started working 24 hours a day on the levees. Debris is still everywhere.

I saw the police out riding around but couldn't tell you one way or the other about how they are handling anything. I did see lots of youth gathered in places doing nothing in a couple of places. Have no idea why they were there or how long but they were there every time we went past for 7 days.
 
The youths congregating is a fact that has been going on for years. Nothing but nothing and then there is trouble. The entitlement issues are inbred in a lot of areas in Louisiana. Notice the amount of violent criminals that hail from these parts and continue on in other areas. John Mohammed is only one.
 
concernedperson said:
MS-13 is a bad group. Dekalb County LE just left the property I'm working on.....the graffiti of this gang is back up. We had covered over it last week. The "tags" must be importent to them. Anyway, the police and all of us are being more vigilent
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Hello CP,
Thank-you so much for the post.
Respectfully,
dark_shadows
 
BillyGoatGruff said:
I'll try.
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Hey BillyGoatGruff,:)
I want you to know that I really appreciate your help.Thank-you so much.
Respectfully,
dark_shadows
 
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