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    CA - Mountain View, WhtFem 135UFCA, 55-60, in landfill, dentures, Mar'81

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/135ufca.html

    Unidentified White Female
    • Located on March 2, 1981 in Mountain View, Santa Clara County, California
    • Estimated date of death is 2 weeks before discovery.
    • Only skull located


    Vital Statistics

    • Estimated age: 55 - 60 years old
    • Distinguishing Characteristics: Grayish hair up to 6" long.
    • Dentals: Lower jaw 21, 22 and 31. Full upper denture, partial lower plate, relatively new, of injected acrylic and plastic teeth. All natural teeth had fillings.


    Case History
    The victim's skull was found on March 2, 1981 in landfill dump area of Mountain View Shoreline Park in Mountain View, CA.
    Last edited by CarlK90245; 04-05-2013 at 12:15 AM. Reason: updated doe network link

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    Unidentified White Female, 55-60, Located March 2, 1981, Mountain View, CA

    Unidentified White Female
    Located on March 2, 1981 in Mountain View, Santa Clara County, California
    Estimated date of death is 2 weeks before discovery.
    Only skull located

    Vital Statistics

    Estimated age: 55 - 60 years old
    Distinguishing Characteristics: Grayish hair up to 6" long.
    Dentals: Lower jaw 21, 22 and 31. Full upper denture, partial lower plate, relatively new, of injected acrylic and plastic teeth. All natural teeth had fillings.

    Case History

    The victim's skull was found on March 2, 1981 in landfill dump area of Mountain View Shoreline Park in Mountain View, CA.

    Investigators
    If you have any information concerning this case, please contact:
    Mountain View Police Department 650-903-6344
    Or
    Santa Clara County Medical Examiner's Office 408-793-1900

    NCIC Number: U-763681702

    Please refer to this number when contacting any agency with information regarding this case. Source Information: ID Wanted Organization

    Source:
    The Doe Network: Case File 135UFCA

    LINK:
    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/135ufca.html

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    Over 28 years ago...

    Bumping case up. With the dental information available, this case seems solvable - at least as far as victim identification is concerned.

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    Possible match?

    Case File 977DFCA


    Gebhard, circa 1981

    Mae W. Gebhard
    Missing since February 24, 1981 from San Francisco, California
    Classification: Missing

    Vital Statistics

    * Date Of Birth: May 15, 1915
    * Age at Time of Disappearance: 65 years old
    * Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'3; 104 lbs.
    * Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Gray hair; brown eyes.
    * Dentals: Available

    Circumstances of Disappearance
    Gebhard was last seen in San Francisco, California on February 24, 1981.

    Investigators
    If you have any information concerning this case, please contact:

    San Francisco Police Department
    415-553-0123

    Agency Case Number: 81-1232234

    NCIC Number: M-648424683
    Please refer to this number when contacting any agency with information regarding this case.

    Source Information:
    California Department of Justice

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/977dfca.html
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    Certainly a possibility. Strange neither were in Namus. It would be nice to know if there is a rule out list.

    Maz


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    Suggest you call it in...

    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Stardust View Post

    Possible Match?

    Case File 977DFCA
    Mae W. Gebhard
    Missing since February 24, 1981 from San Francisco, California
    Classification: Missing...

    Circumstances of Disappearance
    Gebhard was last seen in San Francisco, California on February 24, 1981....
    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/977dfca.html

    It certainly is a possibility. You should call it in to both San Francisco and Santa Clara County authorities listed in the case files.

    San Francisco is only about an hour drive from Mountain View, California. The ages are close and both had gray hair. I see that dental information is available on Ms. Gebhard. Too bad that there isn't more information about her and how she went missing.

    Note that there was only a week between the disappearance of Ms. Gebhard and the finding of the skull (with gray hair attatched) at a land fill.
    Last edited by Richard; 10-02-2009 at 08:55 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    It certainly is a possibility. You should call it in to both San Francisco and Santa Clara County authorities listed in the case files.

    San Francisco is only about an hour drive from Mountain View, California. The ages are close and both had gray hair. I see that dental information is available on Ms. Gebhard. Too bad that there isn't more information about her and how she went missing.

    Note that there was only a week between the disappearance of Ms. Gebhard and the finding of the skull (with gray hair attatched) at a land fill.

    I also noted that there is only a week between the disappearance and the finding of the skull and I'm not sure what to make of it. Imagine, Ms. Gebhard was killed shortly after her disappearance, maybe on the same day (February 24) and her body dumped at the land fill, could it indeed be possible that her body decomposed so fast that after a week only skeletal remains are left?
    I guess that it takes longer than a week and also depends on the temperatures. It was February/March. I don't know what the temperatures are at that time of the year in California.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Stardust View Post
    I also noted that there is only a week between the disappearance and the finding of the skull and I'm not sure what to make of it. Imagine, Ms. Gebhard was killed shortly after her disappearance, maybe on the same day (February 24) and her body dumped at the land fill, could it indeed be possible that her body decomposed so fast that after a week only skeletal remains are left?
    I guess that it takes longer than a week and also depends on the temperatures. It was February/March. I don't know what the temperatures are at that time of the year in California.
    There are a lot of variables to consider. I don't think that the remains were only skeletal. The term "skull" could mean only a severed head. Hair was attatched, and dentures were intact.

    You are correct to state that the weather would have played a part in decomposition. But there could be other rfactors as well, such as it may have been exposed or encased in something. It could have been kept under refrigeration, or it could have been covered with some sort of chemical, etc.

    Also, I have seen where some of these estimates have been way off. Even age extimates can be years off. Sometimes there are typographical errors that get introduced as well when these case summaries are written up.

    I wonder if a comparison between the two cases has ever been done.

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    Okay, so maybe this really could be a match...
    I looked at PorchlightUSA, but didn't find a rule out list.

    To be honest, I don't feel confident enough to call that possible match in because English is not my native language. So, any volunteers?
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    There's another thread about this UID here: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48407 where "Lady Stardust" mentions a possible match of Mae Gebhard. I would be surprised if these two weren't already compared based on the close proximity of date and location, but stranger things have happened. I couldn't find an email address for Santa Clara County Medical Examiner or Mountain View PD and I'm really not comfortable calling, would anyone with more cojones be willing to call about it?
    Last edited by KateB; 04-26-2015 at 11:04 AM. Reason: repair url tag.

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    She's still NOT in NamUs.
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