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    FL - Leesburg, BlkFem 405UFFL, 16-18, bound & gagged in Lake Harris, Oct'78

    http://doenetwork.org/cases/405uffl.html

    Unidentified Black Female

    • The victim was discovered on October 8, 1978 in Lake Harris in Tavares, Lake County, Florida
    • Estimated Date of Death: 3-5 days prior to the discovery of the body
    • State of Remains: Partialy decomposed
    • Cause of Death: Drowning


    Vital Statistics

    • Estimated age: 17 - 18years old
    • Approximate Height and Weight: 5'2 - 5'4; 110 lbs.
    • Distinguishing Characteristics: Black hair; brown eyes. Pierced ears.
    • Dentals: Not Available
    • Fingerprints: Available


    Case History
    The nude body of a young black female was located in Lake Harris in Tavares, Lake County, Florida on October 8, 1978.
    Her hair was close-cropped and her fingernails and toenails were clipped very short with red nail polish.
    According to the autopsy report, the victim had not had any dental work done.
    Also, the victim had never given birth to a child.
    When the victim was found, she was bound on her wrists and ankles with white wire coat hangers. She had been gagged with two bandanas, one blue and whilte, the other yellow and blue.

    Last edited by CarlK90245; 04-01-2013 at 02:30 AM. Reason: updated doe network link

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    there have been a number of African American females who have disappeared from Florida mostly in the 70s and 80s. I wonder if this case could be connected

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    Exclamation

    Here are the African American females missing from the 70's and 80's:



    http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/1106dffl.html
    Margaret Dash, 1974

    http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/1753dffl.html
    Lillie Miller, 1981

    http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/512dffl.html
    Retha Hiers, 1982

    http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/1737dffl.html
    Donyelle Johnson, 1989

    http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/1376dffl.html
    Michelle Harley, 1989

    http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/1938dffl.html
    Shiela Williams, 1988

    http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/1949dffl.html
    Margie Phillips, 1986

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    The original link was outdated.

    http://doenetwork.org/cases/405uffl.html


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    is it just me or does the reconstruction in the doe network link Donjeta provided look male to anyone else?

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    here is the Namus profile for this UID. no rule-outs listed:

    https://identifyus.org/cases/6029

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    The only person who kind of looks like this jane doe is Denise El-Mansura. Here is her Doe Network page.

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/3345dfla.html

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    I wish we could get a much better recon!
    Happy New Years

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    I wonder if this UID was ever looked at as being possibly related to the Lake Mann murders. I just realized this case looks pretty similar to them and I think there could be a connection, based on the limited info we have.
    The two Lake Mann murders were confirmed to be related. One of the girls in that case was identified a few months ago as Nancy Grace Daniel, but the other girl remains unidentified.

    http://doenetwork.org/cases/727uffl.html
    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/728uffl.html - Nancy Grace Daniel
    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...ly-ID-d-Jan-77

    The similarities I see:
    - All were teenagers
    - All were African-American
    - All had the same general description (5'2 - 5'6, slender, black hair, etc)
    - All found in lakes
    - The timeline is pretty close. The first body was found in Lake Mann in January 1977, the second just two months after that, and then this girl in Leesburg about 1 1/2 years after
    - The murders are estimated to have taken place around the same time of year. The first girl found died around August, the second girl between September and November, and the Leesburg girl in very early October
    - Leesburg is about 45 miles from Lake Mann

    There are a few inconsistencies, though:
    - The Leesburg girl was bound and gagged, the Lake Mann girls weren't (as far as we know)
    - She was also nude, while the Lake Mann girls were clothed

    The CoD for the two Lake Mann girls is undetermined, so I can't really draw any connections based on that.


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    NCMEC has released a new reconstruction of this Jane Doe.

    Attachment 98983
    Who was Walker County Jane Doe?




    John Doe - February 9, 1968 - Facebook Page, Websleuths Thread
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    Quote Originally Posted by webrocket View Post
    is it just me or does the reconstruction in the doe network link Donjeta provided look male to anyone else?
    That close-cropped style was quite popular with black women in the 70's into the 80's. My DIL's grandmother still wears hers like that.


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    Much better recon!



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