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    WI - Ronald Wick, 20, & Carl Stolz, 23, Madison, 21 Feb 1961

    http://www.madison.com/wsj/mad/top/i...=93243&ntpid=1

    Dane County sheriff's divers hope that in the next few days, the mucky bottom of Lake Waubesa will finally surrender the remains of two young men who vanished on a late-winter night 45 years ago.


    They are looking for Ronald Wick who were reported missing to Madison police on Feb. 22, 1961. Wick was 20 and Stolz 23 at the time. The break in the very cold case came when a recreational diver happened upon Wick's gray, 1950 Ford coupe in 35 feet of water on July 22.

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    I hope they find them for the families sake.Its been so long.

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    Update: Bones Found

    http://www.madison.com/tct/news/inde...=93462&ntpid=1





    Divers from the Dane County Sheriff's Office were hoping to be able to gain entry today to the 1950 Ford Coupe on the bottom of Lake Waubesa to check the interior for further signs of the remains of two Madison men who went through the ice more than four decades ago.

    Small human bones have been found outside the car as divers carefully try to remove silt that has accumulated around the car. Also discovered was a piece of cloth that may have come from clothing worn by Ronald Wick, 20, or Carl Stolz, 23, the night of Feb. 21, 1961, when they plunged through the ice.

    The items found outside the car "are believed to have come from the vehicle," said Dane County Sheriff's Office public information officer Elise Schaffer, who said there is a hole on the driver's side of the vehicle through which the bone fragments and cloth could have passed.

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    http://www.madison.com/tct/news/inde...=93572&ntpid=3



    Law enforcement officials said today they are confident human remains found in a car at the bottom of Lake Waubesa are those of Carl Stolz and Ronald Wick, two young men who disappeared 45 years ago after a night on the town followed by a drive on the lake.

    "Sufficient evidence has been recovered at this time that we are able to make a tentative identification of Carl Stolz and Ronald Wick as being the occupants of the vehicle," Dane County Coroner John Stanley said this morning.

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    Also:

    http://www.wkowtv.com/index.php/news/story/p/pkid/24590

    Carl Stolz' young wife was pregnant when he disappeared. Jeff Higgins is the son he never met. Higgins said he never bought theories that Stolz and Wick may have taken off to start new lives.

    ''From what I understood about him as a person, he was responsible and respectful of my Mother and I really didn't think that was a possibility.'' Higgins said.

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    Father Found After 45 Years

    Jeff Higgins does not remember his biological Father. He couldn't - Because Higgins was not even born yet the night Carl Stolz apparently went ice fishing, and never returned.
    ''I thought I'd regret it if I didn't come down here.'' Higgins said at the Lake Waubesa Boat landing, where Dane County Divers have recovered what appear to be bone fragments from the bottom of the Lake.
    Jeff's Father - 21 year old Carl Stolz, and 19 year old Ronald Wick vanished late one February night in 1961.

    ''You know, A lot of emotions are going on inside at the time. You don't know if you should really be sad about it, or if its kind of a sense of relief, and I think over the last few days, with communications with family and friends, I think everyone is OK with putting a closure on this and putting a lot of ideas to rest.
    When the two men disappeared 45 years ago, some speculated they took off to start new lives, but Stolz had a wife, a young son and another (Jeff) on the way.
    Higgins says, he never believed his Father abandoned the family. ''From what I understand, he was responsible and respectful of my Mother and I really didn't think that was a possibility.''


    http://www.wkowtv.com/index.php/news/story/p/pkid/24584

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    WI - Ron Wick, 19, & Carl Stotz, 21, Madison, Feb 1961

    Can anyone recall a case where a vehicle went into a lake or river on a winter evening sometime in the early 1960's, possibly 1961? I believe that the two male occupants were related, either brothers or cousins. I have been unable to come up with any leads and would appreciate any help.

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    I failed to mention that the vehicle was discovered and both the bodies of the men were recovered with the vehicle. This probably happened within the last 10 years or so.

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    A Similar Story....

    In the Spring of 1958, Delia Mae Parker Young and her friend Susie Roberts went missing after visiting a roadhouse near Gainsville, GA. In November of '59, human remains were discovered by a fisherman near a bridge over nearby Lake Lanier. The remains went unidentified until 1990.
    In that year, construction workers working on the same bridge discovered a 1950 Ford, tires still inflated and the ignition and radio in the "on" position, containing human remains. Dubbed "the Lady of the Lake", the remains were determined to be those of Susie Roberts. The indentification of Susie led to the identification of the eariler recovered remains to be Delia Young.

    http://archive.gainesvilletimes.com/...s/175868.shtml

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    Found It!

    In August of 2006, a recreational diver exploring Madison, WI's Lake Waubesa discovered a 1950 Ford coupe in 35 feet of water, which contained the skeletal remains of two men. In February of 1961, 19 year old Ron Wick and 21 year old Carl Stotz disappeared after a night of bar-hopping. The vehicle, upside-down and covered in a thick layer of silt and mud, still had Wick's license plate attached.
    Authorities speculate the two had been driving on the lake when they broke through.

    http://www.weau.com/home/headlines/3539221.html
    http://www.channel3000.com/news/9612479/detail.html
    http://www.weau.com/news/headlines/3472806.html



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