Only in this crazy case...I think that's one of the reasons that so many people think it was an inside job followed by a bizarre cover-up.librazone said:of a pedophile kidnapping a child for ransom.As far as I know real kidnappers and pedophiles have completely different MOs.
librazone said:of a pedophile kidnapping a child for ransom.As far as I know real kidnappers and pedophiles have completely different MOs.
Amraann said:I think if you look throught history there has always been the first.
Jack the ripper? Eileen Weurnos, ...
A pedophile is a describtion of one who has sexual interest in children it does not exclude him from also being a kidnapper anymore then it excludes a priest from being a pedophile.
Unfortunately it seems that the cover up is mainly the work of the Boulder DA's office...and by the looks of it they are going to continue with their obfuscation.southcitymom said:Only in this crazy case...I think that's one of the reasons that so many people think it was an inside job followed by a bizarre cover-up.
NO, but that means little as I am not nearly as knowledgable as many here.librazone said:But you cannot think of a particular case.
Anyway this guy Karr appears to have been checked out by the FBI 5 years ago and they knew then he was a bit of a flake.
If you google kidnapping and pedophile there are a number of specific cases.librazone said:But you cannot think of a particular case.
Anyway this guy Karr appears to have been checked out by the FBI 5 years ago and they knew then he was a bit of a flake.
windovervocalcords said:If you google kidnapping and pedophile there are a number of specific cases.
When you include ransom note there are fewer.
True, but they don't typically leave a ransom note is I think the distinction.bulletgirl2002 said:You see kids who are kidnapped by mom's bf who turns out to be a pedophile all the time...
Only Jonbenet Ramsey.librazone said:Couldn't find any with a ransom involved. But of course I could have missed some.
southcitymom said:I think the real distinction in the Ramsey case is that she wasn't kidnapped at all. That note seems like an enormous red herring to me. Most pedophiles who kidnap don't intend to return the child. Kidnappers are motivated by money or revenge. Pedophiles are motivated by sex.
windovervocalcords said:Only Jonbenet Ramsey.
I just posted a link to Mark Mclish's work on statement analysis of the JBR ransom note on the other note thread.librazone said:Absolutely thats my whole point pedophiles and real kidnappers have different MOs. This case could have been cleared up years ago if the DA's office had acted on the handwriting expert's and FBI's reports which both pointed to Patsy Ramsey.
The police and the FBI knew from the start that a family member committed this crime. Law enforcement agency whether the police or the FBI have dealt with thousands of cases... this is their job and they usually have a good idea of who the perpetrator is within the first 24 hours of the investigation.
No, but it was implied this was a kidnapping gone wrong.librazone said:She wasn't kidnapped.
librazone, out of five handwritng analusts, grading on a scale of 0 to 5, with 5 being complete exclusion, four analysts scored Patsy a 5, and the fifth analyst scored Patsy a 4.5, so, so such for a conviction on handwriting analkysis. The Boulder Plolice suffered from myopia in this case, and in focusing on the Ramseys, and refusing to consider other possibilities, they made total *sses iut of themsleves. Having suspicions is one thing, but the BPD took it way past that, and that has been proven again, and again.librazone said:Absolutely thats my whole point pedophiles and real kidnappers have different MOs. This case could have been cleared up years ago if the DA's office had acted on the handwriting expert's and FBI's reports which both pointed to Patsy Ramsey.
The police and the FBI knew from the start that a family member committed this crime. Law enforcement agency whether the police or the FBI have dealt with thousands of cases... this is their job and they usually have a good idea of who the perpetrator is within the first 24 hours of the investigation.
And you have the names of these analysts and their reports?Buzzm1 said:librazone, out of five handwritng analusts, grading on a scale of 0 to 5, with 5 being complete exclusion, four analysts scored Patsy a 5, and the fifth analyst scored Patsy a 4.5, so, so such for a conviction on handwriting analkysis. The Boulder Plolice suffered from myopia in this case, and in focusing on the Ramseys, and refusing to consider other possibilities, they made total *sses iut of themsleves. Having suspicions is one thing, but the BPD took it way past that, and that has been proven again, and again.
The 41-year-old American was being held at a Bangkok immigration detention center. He faces charges in the United States of first-degree murder, kidnapping and sexual assault on a child, said Ann Hurst, a Department of Homeland Security attache in Bangkok.librazone said:She wasn't kidnapped.
Buzzm1 said:librazone, out of five handwritng analusts, grading on a scale of 0 to 5, with 5 being complete exclusion, four analysts scored Patsy a 5, and the fifth analyst scored Patsy a 4.5, so, so such for a conviction on handwriting analkysis. The Boulder Plolice suffered from myopia in this case, and in focusing on the Ramseys, and refusing to consider other possibilities, they made total *sses iut of themsleves. Having suspicions is one thing, but the BPD took it way past that, and that has been proven again, and again.