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    Apology To The Ramseys?

    I have been watching in silence. When this news first broke, I assumed they had matched this guys DNA. Not so, although I applaud Mary Lacy for getting this guy off the streets and putting him behind bars where he belongs. He certainly fits the profile of a “sick puppy”. Just when I was ready to dismiss him as a nut case, the yearbook appears. What are the odds of that? Or could this all just all be a coincidence? As if this case could get any weirder. But here’s my take on the whole thing. As we continue to watch this “side show” are we missing the bigger picture? Should we all be watching the actions of John Mark Karr, or the non-actions of John Bennet Ramsey? Does anyone else find it odd that after 10 long years a suspect comes forward claiming to have murdered this child and John’s response was “Don’t be too quick to judge, let the justice system take its course.” and “all I want to do is to be able to register my son for college. If the media doesn’t stop bothering me I won’t ever talk to them again.”

    HMMMMM…. Sounds like John Ramsey would just like this all to go away. A little too close for comfort? One mention of Polly Klaas’ name, Mark Klaas is right back on TV. WHERE IS JOHN RAMSEY????

    And if I hear one more time from Niki woman on Court TV that all of her colleagues should join her in extending an apology to the Ramsey’s I think I will hurl. In one statement she said we shouldn’t be quick to judge John Mark Paul and in another she apologies for how she treated the Ramsey’s. HELLO?!!!!! This case is FAR from being solved. And WHO said just because a man steps forward claiming to have been with JonBenet the night she died exonerates either parent from this crime?????

    I MAKE NO APOLOGIES TO THE RAMSEY’S AND NEITHER SHOULD ANYONE ELSE.

    1.) Even IF this freak IS the murderer, both of the Ramsey’s hindered the investigation from the start by REFUSING to cooperate with police. They took the focus OFF the intruder theory by NOT cooperating, which forced the investigators to take a closer look at them. They WASTED time and obviously were not very concerned about this killer hurting any other child. THIS SHOULD BE A HUGE WARNING SIGN PEOPLE.
    2.) If this guy is just out for attention, then he got what he wanted. But what about the evidence that still points towards the Ramsey’s???? Patsy’s fibers on the garrote? John’s fibers on the underpants of JonBenet? Burke’s statement that JonBenet was awake and walked in the home carrying presents contracting the parents statements? Patsy not being excluded as the author of that ransom note. The knowledge of John’s bonus that year. The pineapple left out with only Patsy and Burke’s prints on the bowl which was the last substance found in Jon Benet’s small intestine? Burke’s knife used to cut the rope? The flashlight that just happened to be the exact same one John Andrew bought for the family which mysteriously disappeared. The list goes on and on.

    So who is running the show here? John Mark Karr, or John Bennet Ramsey? Pay close attention to the man behind the curtain. Pay close attention to what John Ramsey says or does not say.

    As for Pam Paugh. God SHUT UP ALREADY. What a fricken embarrassment she is to the family. Talk about wanting to be the center of attention. You didn’t love JonBenet, “I” loved JonBenet. I bet John Ramsey is wanting her to shut the ## up!

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    great post Nedthan

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    Right smack on Ned!

    Excellent post..........particularly about keeping an eye on John Ramsey.

    And NO.....the Ramsey's need no apology at all. As someone said on another thread......if anyone else's child was murdered they'd spend the rest of their life to find the killer! Didn't happen in this case because the Ramsey's knew who it was!

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    Wonderful points!

    While, admittedly, being extremely confused when it comes to this case, I have to applaud Nedthan for this post. I'm not 100% on either side of the fence and I won't profess to have investigated as well as many on this board.
    But I am wondering where John and even Burke are when it comes to this arrest. I would have been in that man's face the minute he was on US soil asking him WHY? or IF? he murdered my daughter. I would definitely be speaking out and pushing LE to confirm his presence in CO that night. I see how many other's victims families act when a suspect is arrested and wonder why JR isn't acting the same.
    "The greatest crimes do not arise from a want of feeling for others but from
    over-sensibility for ourselves and an over-indulgence to our own desires."
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    Nice to see you Ned!

    Yes, a great post. Very well stated. I'm not jumping on this bandwagon! Time will tell, we have to wait, JMK is looking like a nutcase! And whatever the Ramseys have had to endure, is no one's fault but their own.

    Has JR left the country yet?

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    Agree, no apologies on this end of the computer even if they could be innocent..


    This post is my opinion only, and is subject to making me look totally confused

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    [QUOTE=LaMer]Nice to see you Ned!

    Yes, a great post. Very well stated. I'm not jumping on this bandwagon! Time will tell, we have to wait, JMK is looking like a nutcase! And whatever the Ramseys have had to endure, is no one's fault but their own.

    Has JR left the country yet?[/QUOTE]


    Maybe that's why we haven't heard a thing from him since the first day. Has he left? Burke is supposed to be starting classes this week @ Purdue. Maybe John has left already.
    "The greatest crimes do not arise from a want of feeling for others but from
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    This thread is a new low point.
    Please assume anything in my posts that is uncredited is my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guppy
    This thread is a new low point.

    I agree. I have never understood the hatred directed at John and Patsy Ramsey.

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    Poco....and other's here needing case information

    Quote Originally Posted by Pocono Sleuther
    While, admittedly, being extremely confused when it comes to this case, I have to applaud Nedthan for this post. I'm not 100% on either side of the fence and I won't profess to have investigated as well as many on this board.
    But I am wondering where John and even Burke are when it comes to this arrest. I would have been in that man's face the minute he was on US soil asking him WHY? or IF? he murdered my daughter. I would definitely be speaking out and pushing LE to confirm his presence in CO that night. I see how many other's victims families act when a suspect is arrested and wonder why JR isn't acting the same.
    Poco....if your not real familiar with this case, be sure and check out Tricia's thread here which is called.....

    "The JBR forum is just a wee bit different than the rest"


    Read everything in it, including all links that Tricia provides.

    You'll be simply amazed! .........and it will catch you up on the case.
    Xxxxxxoooooo
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    Debann and Guppy

    This has NOTHING to do with hatred. This has to do with following the evidence in this case and paying CLOSE attention to the father of this VICTIM. Here many of you are jumping to conclusions regarding John Mark Karr when there is NO concrete evidence yet that links him to this crime. I just want to remind everyone of the evidence that points to the Ramsey’s and remind you all that they are STILL under the umbrella of suspicion. Once again we have ODD comments on behalf of John Ramsey. It speaks VOLUMES when he wants to be LEFT ALONE when after 10 years a man comes forward claiming he murdered his daughter.

    Keep watching…..

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    Sure, I will apologize for my distrust of them but it will always be with the caveat that they brought it on themselves by the way they acted.

    I can understand that they were worried that the police would crucify them. However, that's reality and that is the police you have to deal with. Flying off the same day to Atlanta because you don't like the way you were treated is not acceptable in my opinion. That doesn't take the focus off you and put it onto other possible suspects, it makes everyone focus that much more on you.

    So if Karr really did it or rolls over on the person who does, then yes the Ramseys are owed an apology by some. But had they done the right things day 1, they would have faded into history as a victim family like John Walsh, Mark Klass, and Mr. Lunsford.

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    I am waiting for the Boulder DA to provide evidence, convincing enough for an actual conviction before a jury of 12 people, that Karr is guilty of JonBenet's murder. Until then, I'm on the fence.

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    Has anyone ever checked M. Tracy's

    whereabouts for that night? Here we have a person with an obsession for this case, who like some perps, seems to have interjected himself in the case, who is certain that the Ramseys are innocent and has corresponded with someone for four years whom he has recently reported as a suspect. This is what, the third time he has accused someone of this crime? Helgoth, some other poor sap and now this guy. His behavior is beginning to look a little suspect to me.

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    How about if the RAMSEYS apologize to all of the innocent people they pointed the finger at (to get the heat off of themselves)?

    As for "getting this sicko off the street"......why?

    This is America. There is no law against being a weirdo. There's no law against having a perverse interest in particular murders......or getting a sex change......or exchanging weird emails.

    They say that he was busted with child porn on his pc in California. Apparently, in California this is a misdemeanor.

    Other than that, he was just as much a right to be on the streets as you or I.

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