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    Here is my John Karr did it theory. whaddya think?

    Here is my theory.
    I belive his inspiration for this crime began with the Polly Klaas case in 1993. There weren't that many high profile stories about men breaking in and kidnapping and killing little girls at that time. That is why they suspected the Klaas dad even though others girls were witnesses. The crime was unusual. Girls were kidnapped off the street, but not many high profile ones of this type. I believe he fantasized about kidnapping a little girl or at least breaking into a home in a brazen fashion. His wife said he began a disturbing fascination with the Klaas case. I believe he was fascinated with "the idea" of what Richard Allen Davis did. The crime he committed. Breaking into a home in a bold and brazen fashion and taking what he desired, with people right there in the home. I believe he thought, "what Davis did was so amazing, I could probably do that." Davis became a hero.

    I believe he began an obsession with movies involving ransom/kidnapping plots and researching other kidnapping cases in order to live some of these fantasy ideas through without actually doing it.

    I believe he was in there during the open house and came back at 5. He was in boulder for some reason, either for work, or friends/family. When he first saw jonbenet, she was perfect and he had to act. It was an opportunity he couldn't pass up. Maybe he really wanted to kidnap but couldn't (too risky so he decided against it? or he didn't have a home and vehicle to transport because he didn't live in colorado) and just wrote the ransom stuff to live out part of the fantasy. He had a lot of time to burn and it was a long wait. Maybe he just liked the idea of breaking in molesting and killing a girl, but he didn't have enough guts, like davis, to pull off the kidnapping part.

    I belive he took a few things with him. Duct tape and possible a polaroid camera and possibly other things. I believe he took a cute and playful pictures of her posing in the basement. She posed for photographers many times in the past. I think Karr may have acted as photographer in the basement. She thought he was just some friend of santa or something. That is why they questioned Patsy if she ever took "cutsey photos" of her in the basement. He either left one behind on purpose or dropped it. I believe Karr may have emailed Tracy one of these pictures that is similar to the photo they have. This could be the secret information only the police have seen and know about. They tried to ask Patsy about it without really telling her about it.

    I also believe they have the goods on this guy being in colorado too.

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    What open house? On the 23rd? There were no strangers at that party.

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    Wenchie, there was an open house before the Christmas party.

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    I personally don't think he's ever been inside the Ramsey house....at a party, or hiding under the bed.

    I do think he's sick...and he was fascinated with Polly and what happened with her. I think he's fantasizing that he was involved with both...but he wasn't involved with either girl. I do think this is all in his mind...and he's having a hard time distinguishing between fact and fiction.


    But I guess time will tell. Don't they have 72 hours to charge him? They have to have some evidence besides his "confession." I do think he should reconsider his choice of attorneys. Those two gals who are speaking for him are doing a terrible job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrsMush99
    Wenchie, there was an open house before the Christmas party.

    Maybe "Open House" has a different definition in Colorado.

    Typically, it does not mean that total strangers can just walk into your house and join the party.

    "Open House" means that it's an open-ended party; informal - like, "drop in any time between x and x. Stay for a long time or a short time. No RSVP required."

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    I thought the Open House was to showcase the Christmas decorations? I also thought that during the Open House, the Ramsey family stayed in a hotel?

    When would he have met JonBenet?

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    Theories...

    I have another theory. I think John Karr was at the end of his rope. His teaching certificate was revoked in the US, he was arrested for child porn, his wife divorced him and he lost his children. Along with that, he was conflicted about his own sexuality, lusted after children and obsessed over dead children. Last, he was broke. A total loser. I think he figured he had nothing left to lose.

    Confessing to the murder mystery of the century could very well put money in the pockets of his family and pay for the education of his children. They are already talking about writing books and making movies. He could never accomplish this on his own. Also, it could give him the notoriety he has always craved. All of a sudden, a nobody is a somebody and his family is enriched by his insanity...

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    Quote Originally Posted by wenchie
    Maybe "Open House" has a different definition in Colorado.

    Typically, it does not mean that total strangers can just walk into your house and join the party.

    "Open House" means that it's an open-ended party; informal - like, "drop in any time between x and x. Stay for a long time or a short time. No RSVP required."

    it is my understanding their lavishly decorated home was on a "tour of homes", and the way that is done where i live is that tickets are sold (usually benefitting some group) and that practically anyone can buy one and then tour the home.

    also, there are usually "stewards" that are to monitor the people going through the house so just this type of thing does not happen (ie someone goes off an explores the house unsupervised).

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    Quote Originally Posted by izzyB
    it is my understanding their lavishly decorated home was on a "tour of homes", and the way that is done where i live is that tickets are sold (usually benefitting some group) and that practically anyone can buy one and then tour the home.

    also, there are usually "stewards" that are to monitor the people going through the house so just this type of thing does not happen (ie someone goes off an explores the house unsupervised).

    Okay. The home tours was a guided tour through the house - the family was not home at the time.


    To the OP:

    In spite of what the Ramseys tried to lead people to believe, there was a huge investigation.

    You can be sure that anyone who came to the house tour/open house/whatever you want to call it, was thoroughly and completely investigated.

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    I'm from New Jersey as well - 1/2 my life there and 1/2 my life in the south - and open house in Collingswood, NJ - means the whole neighborhood is invited - and there were often people that didn't know each other.


    Georgia - well life is an open house in GA - there are no strangers in the south (the south that's in the east)!


    I think it a great theory Juliet. Well thought and it makes sense. As long as you keep an open mind.


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    Quote Originally Posted by T Broodwater
    I'm from New Jersey as well - 1/2 my life there and 1/2 my life in the south - and open house in Collingswood, NJ - means the whole neighborhood is invited - and there were often people that didn't know each other.


    Georgia - well life is an open house in GA - there are no strangers in the south!


    I think it a great theory Juliet. Well thought and it makes sense. As long as you keep an open mind.

    Don't those strangers usually come because they live in the neighborhood and want to introduce themselves to their neighbors? I've never heard of a stranger just walking into an open house, having something to eat, and then leaving.

    Anyway..........howdy, neighbor: I'm about 8 miles from Collingswood.....in Voorhees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T Broodwater
    I'm from New Jersey as well - 1/2 my life there and 1/2 my life in the south - and open house in Collingswood, NJ - means the whole neighborhood is invited - and there were often people that didn't know each other.


    Georgia - well life is an open house in GA - there are no strangers in the south (the south that's in the east)!


    I think it a great theory Juliet. Well thought and it makes sense. As long as you keep an open mind.
    Well, TB, I'm from Mt Ephraim, and the twenty yrs I lived there the only people who showed up at an open house was people invited by word of mouth. Down yonder here in florida, show up at an open house, they try to sell it to you. LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall
    Confessing to the murder mystery of the century could very well put money in the pockets of his family and pay for the education of his children. They are already talking about writing books and making movies. He could never accomplish this on his own. Also, it could give him the notoriety he has always craved. All of a sudden, a nobody is a somebody and his family is enriched by his insanity...
    That's something I hadn't thought about...but it makes sense. He's told a lot of different stories (like taking his family to the party at the R's) and some of these will be able to be verified. Eventually, I think they will find that he wasn't the killer.

    I really hadn't thought of it from this angle...but it could be. He'll walk on this, and then he'll sell his story. As you pointed out, there are already deals in the works.

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    I wouldn't know, honestly - I guess I attribute faces I don't know with the people they are talking to - you know you assume they are with the so and so's. Those things are so often a blur to me.

    I guess if maybe I thought they were from Vorhees I might get suspicious..

    HAHa That's a joke! Howdy back, neighbor! I read someone saying "You'se" earlier and I was wondering...

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    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall

    Confessing to the murder mystery of the century could very well put money in the pockets of his family and pay for the education of his children. They are already talking about writing books and making movies. He could never accomplish this on his own. Also, it could give him the notoriety he has always craved. All of a sudden, a nobody is a somebody and his family is enriched by his insanity...
    I thought about the money issue also. That he'd go free and make a fortune - if he's a krank.

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