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    If Karr was innocent....

    ....I was sort of hoping/thinking that maybe the real killer, especially if it was a family member, would come out and confess to avoid sending someone they knew was innocent to jail. No such luck, though. Maybe if they drug Karr through the process a while longer, someone would have broken?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Knight
    ....I was sort of hoping/thinking that maybe the real killer, especially if it was a family member, would come out and confess to avoid sending someone they knew was innocent to jail. No such luck, though. Maybe if they drug Karr through the process a while longer, someone would have broken?
    I doubt it. The real killer has held this to their chest for a very long time. The real killer does not care if someone goes to jail in his/her steed because, first and foremost, the real killer does not want to get caught.

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    If Karr was innocent....

    Karr knew his DNA wouldn't match - in fact, he said there probably wouldn't be a match. I wonder what he would have done if the DA had just said it was a match. I'll bet he would have changed his tune and fast! I doubt the guilty party would come forth to save an innocent person, if they can do that to a child.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Knight
    ....I was sort of hoping/thinking that maybe the real killer, especially if it was a family member, would come out and confess to avoid sending someone they knew was innocent to jail. No such luck, though. Maybe if they drug Karr through the process a while longer, someone would have broken?


    Nope. Wasn't gonna happen and never will. Patsy can no longer confess and John? Last I heard he would never speak to the media again and he was heading out of the country.


    Dark Knight The above is just my opinion of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jubie
    Nope. Wasn't gonna happen and never will. Patsy can no longer confess and John? Last I heard he would never speak to the media again and he was heading out of the country.


    Dark Knight The above is just my opinion of course.
    I guess I was primarily hoping John would come out and say something, especially if he knew it was Patsy, who can no longer go to jail. Maybe it wasn't her. Dunno.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Knight
    I guess I was primarily hoping John would come out and say something, especially if he knew it was Patsy, who can no longer go to jail. Maybe it wasn't her. Dunno.
    You know if John Ramsey was involved, there is no way he is going to come clean - even after his wife's death. If he's involved, most of the last ten years of his life has been devoted to a cover-up of the highest order. I think he'll ride that wave to the grave.

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    Scumdogs of the Universe... which is the title of an album by the rock band, Gwar.

    Far be it from me to use the term to describe the Ramseys and their lawyer, Lin Wood.

    I never knew anybody who thought Karr was guilty. Anybody. We simply couldn't believe that the DA's office could even bring this under the spotlight without some kind of solid evidence. But they did.

    While Karr and Ramsey will be under close scrutiny for some time to come, for now, we are back to the JonBenet case officially being a 'mystery'. Yep... Gee, who coulda done it, y'all?

    I have always tended to agree that this is a case of money talks, and a poor couple would have been hauled through the mill a thousand times, and not been pampered and humored and allowed to get away with an infinity of questionable comments and actions.

    What was the song now... "If you're 100% sure John Ramsey is innocent, clap your hands..."

    (Dead silence)

    My point exactly.

    Karr is well on his way to his first million. Lin Wood has just made another packet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Knight
    I guess I was primarily hoping John would come out and say something, especially if he knew it was Patsy, who can no longer go to jail. Maybe it wasn't her. Dunno.
    If Patsy did it, John wouldn't confess. He has too much at stake after 10 years of insisting that they've been unfairly accused.

    Also, he could be still be tried and convicted of Obstruction of Justice and with the high profile in this case, he'd get a stiff jail sentence. Can you imagine JR in jail?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bronte Nut
    Scumdogs of the Universe... which is the title of an album by the rock band, Gwar.

    Far be it from me to use the term to describe the Ramseys and their lawyer, Lin Wood.

    I never knew anybody who thought Karr was guilty. Anybody. We simply couldn't believe that the DA's office could even bring this under the spotlight without some kind of solid evidence. But they did.

    While Karr and Ramsey will be under close scrutiny for some time to come, for now, we are back to the JonBenet case officially being a 'mystery'. Yep... Gee, who coulda done it, y'all?

    I have always tended to agree that this is a case of money talks, and a poor couple would have been hauled through the mill a thousand times, and not been pampered and humored and allowed to get away with an infinity of questionable comments and actions.

    What was the song now... "If you're 100% sure John Ramsey is innocent, clap your hands..."

    (Dead silence)

    My point exactly.

    Karr is well on his way to his first million. Lin Wood has just made another packet.

    Do not adjust your set...
    I cannot argue with anyone who quotes Gwar, LOL!


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    Just walked by the TV where some person was theorizing that the real killer's mind might be "twisted" by the thought of someone else (Karr) getting all the attention and fame for HIS crime. I don't think this is a typical killer, though. That would be more of a serial killer, whereas this was a more specific crime, I think.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Knight
    Just walked by the TV where some person was theorizing that the real killer's mind might be "twisted" by the thought of someone else (Karr) getting all the attention and fame for HIS crime. I don't think this is a typical killer, though. That would be more of a serial killer, whereas this was a more specific crime, I think.
    You make a good point, Dark Knight. I agree that a certain TYPE of perp would not want anyone else taking the credit and that could lead to some spilling of the beans. But I don't think a serial killer got to JBR. This crime has always felt tremendously personal in nature.

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    If Karrs family had said he went missing that christmas do you think he would still be under suspicion even though the DNA didn't match? I think he would be still arrested. I dont think it was just the dna.

    I personally do think it was worth bringing him in to check all this stuff out with the evidence they had on him - he could have been the killer.

    The thing that pauzzles me the most is that the killer was so careful with dna and evidence - yet wrote such a goofy ransom letter. The whole case is just so bizarre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by southcitymom
    You make a good point, Dark Knight. I agree that a certain TYPE of perp would not want anyone else taking the credit and that could lead to some spilling of the beans. But I don't think a serial killer got to JBR. This crime has always felt tremendously personal in nature.
    Yeah, this was very specific and personal. Sure wish the Karr situation would have flushed someone out, though, somehow.

    I half expect the DA to just give up and say, "I've decided this was just a very elaborate suicide, case closed!" lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by lily
    If Karrs family had said he went missing that christmas do you think he would still be under suspicion even though the DNA didn't match? I think he would be still arrested. I dont think it was just the dna.

    I personally do think it was worth bringing him in to check all this stuff out with the evidence they had on him - he could have been the killer.

    The thing that pauzzles me the most is that the killer was so careful with dna and evidence - yet wrote such a goofy ransom letter. The whole case is just so bizarre.
    I think your last point is why some people theorize there were 2 people involved.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Knight
    ....I was sort of hoping/thinking that maybe the real killer, especially if it was a family member, would come out and confess to avoid sending someone they knew was innocent to jail. No such luck, though. Maybe if they drug Karr through the process a while longer, someone would have broken?
    How very sweet of you Dark Knight, to think that people have a conscience and they will tell the truth in the end. John Ramsey will be another that will take this secret to the grave, sorry to say. We can't see how people can live with themselves but some can, very sad.

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