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    I would suspect that Sonoma authorities will extraditie John Karr back to California sometime in the next few days or next week. Unlike Colorado, thier case against John Karr is there waiting, put on hold for five years when Karr left.

    Will the coverage of the John Karr case in California continue on the JonBenet board, or will a new board be created for that case? I suspect that there are many, including myself, that will be interested in following this to it's conclusion, hopefully with a conviction and prison sentence in California.
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    LOVED The Karr Debacle article! I was sitting and reading those emails late last night then came to my senses and realized what I was doing. I will admit I was a *tad* upset at the outcome becuase there hasn't been a case I've been into in awhile. But, now Warren Jeffs has finally been aprehended and I can't wait to hear about hte book being thrown at that sicko!


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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Mark_Karr#Career
    In 1996, about the time the powerwurks.com website was created, multiple posts were made to various Usenet newsgroups by a John Karr. In one post Karr described himself as a 31 year old with 3 young children, and that he planned to attend college and major in elementary education. One post purported to be from a 23-year-old woman named Lara, which coincided in both name and age to Karr's then-wife Lara. The posts were made to newsgroups dedicated to topics like "parents-teens", "personals", and groups frequented by students from elementary through high school. The posts contained references to the powerwurks.com website, and some described the purpose of the site.

    1996 - March 9 - Karr accessed the alt.support.loneliness newsgroup talking about powerwurks.com

    1996--August–September 1996: Karr served as a substitute teacher at Hamilton Elementary School. In September 1996, Karr was fired from a substitute teaching job in Alabama after parents complained about his classroom etiquette. "Things he would say in my opinion were not needed to be said in a classroom of elementary students," said Marion County School Superintendent Bravell Jackson.

    1996 fall, John Mark Karr begins attending Bevill State Community College, in Hamilton, Alabama

    During that time he also ran a used car business, according to Marion County Probate Judge Annette Bozeman, who often saw Karr in her office working on car titles

    1996 - Gary Williams, assistant superintendent of Alabama's Franklin County School System, confirmed to TIME that John Mark Karr worked as a substitute teacher there on December 17, 18 and 19, of 1996.. He continued as a substitute teacher until May of 1997. While there, the elementary-school principal reprimanded Karr for behaving inappropriately with students. "She suspected some things and confronted him," said Williams. "He made corrections."

    1996 – family Christmas in Atlanta

    1997 – John Mark Karr also operated a Day Care Center in northwest Alabama. The Marion County Department of Human Resources issued a license for Karr to begin operating a day care out of his home in June 1997. Under the license, Karr was allowed to care for as many as six children at a time, ranging in age up to 14 years old.

    2000 - March, Karr's mother died in a rest home in PA

    2000 – summer, John Mark Karr moves family to Petaluma, CA---John Mark Karr raised the hackles of his wife at the time and three sons when he diverted to Boulder and dumped them in a motel for the day so he could troll around town doing "research" for a book on the JonBenet Ramsey murder, says a member of Karr's church in California.
    "He got a feel for the place and observed it all for his book," Dennis Melfa, 59, said Sunday as he recalled what Karr told him five years ago.

    That daylong excursion could have given Karr the knowledge he professes to have about the Ramsey home and local landmarks.

    2000 - John Karr received a bachelor of science degree in liberal arts from Regents College, now Excelsior College, in 2000, spokesman Bill Stewart said Thursday.

    2000 - After settling in Petaluma, CA a few weeks later JMK met Dennis Melfa, 59, attending Rite of Christian Initiation classes at St. Vincent De Paul Catholic Church. Melfa was a real estate broker, and JMK asked Melfa about buying the house where Polly Klaas had been kidnapped.

    2000 - December, through March 2001, he worked in the Petaluma, Old Adobe, Liberty and Wilmar elementary districts as a substitute school teacher.

    2001 – early in year, John Mark Karr contacts Wendy Hutchens re: Richard Allan Davis

    2001 – April 13: Karr was arrested on five misdemeanor counts of possession of child pornography, the Sonoma County sheriff's office said

    2001 - - April 17: Karr pleaded not guilty to the charges, according to court documents

    2001 – April 19, Karr's wife Lara filed for divorce

    2001 – Oct. 5: After a series of court hearings, Karr was released from jail, but was ordered to report to a probation officer and avoid child pornography, children and places where children congregate, such as schools, beaches and parks. The court records in the case were sealed.

    The way Karr presented himself impressed the group, the San Francisco Cable Car Chorus, as much as his voice. "He was the kind of guy who was always, like, on a performance, so they loved him," Melfa said.--->>

    Karr drove a Jaguar, Melfa said, a fairly new model, and dressed "like he had money." However, court records of the Karrs' 2001 divorce show his wife brought in the bulk of the family's earnings.--->>

    Melfa visited (JMK in jail) twice, once bringing novels to Karr.

    "I wanted to try and figure out whether he was guilty or not, and I couldn't really tell," Melfa said. He recalled that Karr "was frightened" and insistent that he had been set up by Hutchens because he had been pressuring her to put him in touch with Davis.--->>

    After Karr was released from jail in October, he began attending the 5 p.m. Saturday Mass at St. Vincent De Paul's. He hitchhiked or took a bus from Santa Rosa where he had arranged to trade labor for rent, Melfa said.

    Karr stayed at the Bennett Valley home of Herb Willsmore, 60. Willsmore said a friend at the church had referred Karr to him.

    "He crawled under the house and put in a water line; it was pretty good work," said Willsmore, who is disabled. "He was always wanting to talk.--->>

    At dinner, Melfa said, Karr also said he was thinking about starting a church in San Francisco fashioned after "one those those Jim Bakker, great big revival type things."

    "He figured with all those homeless, and all those lost souls in San Francisco, that he could lead them and really become something big doing that," Melfa said

    2001 – November: A judge issues a restraining order, compelling Karr to stay 100 yards away from his wife and three children for three years. Divorce is finalized.

    2001 – December: A warrant was issued for Karr's arrest after authorities said he violated the terms of his supervised release.

    2002 - April: California Commission on Teacher Credentialing suspended Karr's certification. No specific reason was given, but automatic suspensions are authorized when a complaint, information or indictment is filed in court alleging the teacher has committed an offense specified in the Education Code.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Leila
    Will the coverage of the John Karr case in California continue on the JonBenet board, or will a new board be created for that case? I suspect that there are many, including myself, that will be interested in following this to it's conclusion, hopefully with a conviction and prison sentence in California.
    JMK has had his 15 minutes of fame. The only thing I want to hear about him is that he was found guilty and is serving the appropriate time in prison on the charges.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Leila
    I would suspect that Sonoma authorities will extraditie John Karr back to California sometime in the next few days or next week. Unlike Colorado, thier case against John Karr is there waiting, put on hold for five years when Karr left.

    Will the coverage of the John Karr case in California continue on the JonBenet board, or will a new board be created for that case? I suspect that there are many, including myself, that will be interested in following this to it's conclusion, hopefully with a conviction and prison sentence in California.
    Great question, Leila! I, too, would like to follow this to it's conclusion.


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    The difference is, he'll be found guilty of the child porn and have to go be Bubba's "lil woman" (although he might like it, come to think of it)....but in CO he was living out a fantasy knowing the DNA wouldn't match.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky
    Can we fly parents in from Bangkok of children he raped and murdered?

    Doesn't the more serious charges come first in the International court of law?
    Good question. I'm not sure the international court of law you refer to really exists. I think he'd have to be a genocidal murderer or something.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CaliKid
    JMK has had his 15 minutes of fame. The only thing I want to hear about him is that he was found guilty and is serving the appropriate time in prison on the charges.
    he will get 5 years parolled in 2 and a slap on the hand in California.

    I want him sent back to Bangkok to stand trial for the little girl he killed.


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    I looked into this sick freaks head...

    the true crime will be letting this man be punished for child porn and not any of his real crimes...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky
    he will get 5 years parolled in 2 and a slap on the hand in California.

    I want him sent back to Bangkok to stand trial for the little girl he killed.
    I didn't hear about the little girl, but if it's true, sounds fair to me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky
    he will get 5 years parolled in 2 and a slap on the hand in California.
    The pornography charges were misdemeanors, but I imagine they'll throw additional charges at him for fleeing to escape prosecution. Maybe those will be felonies and they can keep in in jail longer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cricket
    The pornography charges were misdemeanors, but I imagine they'll throw additional charges at him for fleeing to escape prosecution. Maybe those will be felonies and they can keep in in jail longer.
    CA has a change in the law going through the CA legislature right now; it will change some pedo charges, that were formerly misdemeanors, to felonies.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzzm1
    CA has a change in the law going through the CA legislature right now; it will change some pedo charges, that were formerly misdemeanors, to felonies.
    Unfortunately it's too late to treat Captain Highpants with the new law!


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    "He figured with all those homeless, and all those lost souls in San Francisco, that he could lead them and really become something big doing that," Melfa said


    Appears, he has been trying to do something big forever!


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    Quote Originally Posted by LaMer
    "He figured with all those homeless, and all those lost souls in San Francisco, that he could lead them and really become something big doing that," Melfa said


    Appears, he has been trying to do something big forever!
    We CA folks are hoping that after Bubba, and his friends, give JMK a big sendoff in 3, or 4, years,, that he will decide that Alabama, or Georgia, are far safer places for him, to loiter.


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    False Confessions
    Why did John Mark Karr claim he killed JonBenet Ramsey? And why did prosecutors arrest him on such flimsy evidence?

    Newsweek
    Updated: 4:03 p.m. PT Aug 29, 2006
    Aug. 29, 2006 - Trip DeMuth was extremely concerned. When the former Boulder, Colo. prosecutor who investigated the 1996 JonBenet Ramsey murder case learned last week that suspect John Mark Karr had been arrested only five days after investigators learned his name, DeMuth was afraid the whole case was based on Karr’s own confession. But confessions aren’t very reliable unless they contain inside information only known to a killer, and DeMuth also knew that virtually all the evidence had leaked to the public—and to someone who falsely claimed to be the killer. “I concluded back then that there was no way to trust a confession,” DeMuth told NEWSWEEK last Friday.

    DeMuth was right: Karr’s own statements were all prosecutors had. On Monday afternoon, Boulder District attorney Mary Lacy announced that she wouldn’t file charges against Karr for the brutal December 1996 killing of 6-year-old JonBenet. After 12 days of a media circus that started with Karr’s arrest in Bangkok August 16 and finished with Karr a prisoner in a Boulder jail cell, Lacy conceded that she found no meaningful evidence linking Karr to the murder. “His DNA does not match that found in the victim’s blood in her underwear,” Lacy wrote in a motion to overturn Karr’s arrest. Prosecutors, she wrote, “would not be able to establish that Mr. Karr committed this crime despite his repeated insistence that he did.”


    Dennis Schroeder / AP-pool
    DA Lacy: ‘There was a real public safety concern here’
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    Karr certainly looked like a promising suspect. In court filings released this week, Lacy confirmed that the hunt started in April with increasingly suspicious email exchanges between an anonymous man calling himself “Daxis” and University of Colorado journalism professor Michael Tracey, who has produced three television documentaries on the case. The emails led to 11 phone calls between Tracey and Karr, which were eventually traced to Bangkok. On August 3, investigators arranged with Tracey for him to ship a photo of JonBenet to a Mail Boxes Etc branch in Bangkok in order to learn his identity. Thai police traced him to an apartment building, and investigators finally learned the identity of Tracey’s correspondent on August 11. They arrested him five days later.

    Karr’s confessions ranged from the emails to police interviews whose contents remain unknown. But he famously implicated himself talking to reporters in Bangkok shortly after his arrest. He said then that he’d been with the Ramsey child when she died, that her death was an accident.


    http://msnbc.msn.com/id/14575118/site/newsweek/


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    Post Karr Ordered Back To Bay Area To Face Child Porn Charges

    POSTED: 6:00 pm PDT August 29, 2006
    UPDATED: 7:36 pm PDT August 29, 2006


    SANTA ROSA -- A Colorado judge on Tuesday ordered John Mark Karr sent to Sonoma County to face child pornography charges, while local authorities said they would re-examine his computer for more illicit images.

    The extradition order came a day after prosecutors in Colorado abruptly dropped their case against Karr in the slaying of JonBenet Ramsey, saying DNA tests failed to put him at the crime scene despite his insistence he sexually assaulted and strangled the 6-year-old beauty queen.Karr is being held in a Boulder jail until he can be sent back to Santa Rosa to face five misdemeanor child pornography charges.

    District Judge Roxanne Bailin in Boulder ordered Karr sent to California by Sept. 13, saying he had violated terms of his bond in that state by failing to show up for a hearing on the pornography charges.

    Meanwhile, at a Sonoma County court hearing, a prosecutor and a lawyer for the sheriff's department called the Karr investigation "ongoing," and said deputies have asked for a new warrant to search Karr's hard drive because technology has advanced in the five years since the original probe.If convicted, Karr could get a year in prison on each count.

    But authorities may want to push for more jail time if investigators turn up new evidence from Karr's computer.New information also came to light Tuesday about the sharing of information about Karr between California and Colorado.

    Sonoma County sheriff's officials have said they forwarded information about Karr to Boulder authorities back in 2001 because of his apparent fascination with the 1996 murder of JonBenet. While he stopped short of confessing, they said he made "uncertain allusions to placing himself in the killer's role," arousing their suspicions.

    However, Tom Bennett, chief investigator for the Boulder County district attorney's office disputed that Tuesday, saying he didn't learn of Karr's possible connection to JonBenet until earlier this month. more at link:http://www.ktvu.com/news/9759188/detail.html
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    Is there any truth to another posters comments a out a child in Thailands death.anyone hear have any info?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzzm1
    We CA folks are hoping that after Bubba, and his friends, give JMK a big sendoff in 3, or 4, years,, that he will decide that Alabama, or Georgia, are far safer places for him, to loiter.
    If he makes it out of jail....
    I bet alot of people are going to just love to see him....


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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzzm1
    SONOMA JUDGE WON'T UNSEAL KARR ARREST DOCUMENTS
    08/29/06 5:15 PDT
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    A Sonoma County Superior Court judge refused this afternoon to unseal documents regarding the 2001 arrest of John Mark Karr in Sonoma County on five misdemeanor charges of possession of child pornography.

    The documents were sealed earlier this month after Karr became a suspect in the murder of JonBenet Ramsey. He is no longer being prosecuted in Colorado for the 6-year-old beauty pageant contestant's murder in December 1996.

    Judge Cerena Wong denied a motion by Bay Area media outlets to unseal documents in support of a search warrant and Karr's arrest. Rachel Matteo-Boehm, attorney for the media, said unsealing the documents does not mean Karr can't get a fair trial and that the California standard for sealing the documents is "exceedingly high.''


    Matteo-Boehm said the public and the press have a First Amendment right to know what is in the documents that support Karr's arrest.

    The judge made her ruling after viewing the documents during a closed hearing with Sgt. Robert Giordano of the Sonoma County Sheriff's Department and Deputy County Counsel Anne Keck.

    It was disclosed during the court hearing that the Sheriff's Department has re-opened its investigation of Karr on the pornography charges. Giordano would not comment on the scope of the re-opened investigation.

    Chief Deputy District Attorney Joan Risse said new technology has allowed a more thorough examination of Karr's computer on which the pornography was allegedly found five years ago.

    Wong said the overriding considerations to support keeping the documents sealed include Karr's and the prosecution's right to a fair trial before an impartial jury and Karr's presumption of innocence. Wong also cited the ongoing investigation by the Sheriff's Department.

    Matteo-Boehm also argued that names of alleged underage victims and witnesses in the documents could be redacted to shield their identity before the documents were unsealed. Wong said her review of the documents showed that was not possible and the identities could still be discerned.


    http://cbs5.com/localwire/localfsnew...urces_bcn_html
    The final paragraph states that "Matteo-Boehm also argued that names of alleged underage victims and witnesses in the documents could be redacted to shield thier identity before the documents were unsealed. Wong said her review of the documents showed that was not possible and the identities could still be discerned.

    I was under the impression that the child pornography charges were in regards to photos found on Karr's computer. I wasn't aware that there were "underage victims and witnesses." Does anyone know what Karr allegedly did in Sonoma County that would include victims?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kazzbar
    Is there any truth to another posters comments a out a child in Thailands death.anyone hear have any info?
    I think its a joke that he would even try fighting it-what a total loser-and some think he is simply a mental case-how can he just be a victim of his own life and then fight extradition for charges he knows he is guilty of or could have that proven - why would he want to stay in boulder but not return to his other charges..loser-loser-loser..they need to look at every possible loophole to charge him with to extend his time in jail.
    I am pretty sure he can get 6 years for his charges and at least one year for fleeing..even if u are found innocent u cannot flee in the first place and get no charges.
    They need to give him any jail time possible -he is such a loser.
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    >>>>"I was under the impression that the child pornography charges were in regards to photos found on Karr's computer. I wasn't aware that there were "underage victims and witnesses." Does anyone know what Karr allegedly did in Sonoma County that would include victims?"<<<<

    The children depicted in the child porn photos ARE victims.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Leila
    The final paragraph states that "Matteo-Boehm also argued that names of alleged underage victims and witnesses in the documents could be redacted to shield thier identity before the documents were unsealed. Wong said her review of the documents showed that was not possible and the identities could still be discerned.

    I was under the impression that the child pornography charges were in regards to photos found on Karr's computer. I wasn't aware that there were "underage victims and witnesses." Does anyone know what Karr allegedly did in Sonoma County that would include victims?
    yes, I would like to know also.Were they pictures of students he had taken or poor day care victims he looked after.This is all murky.II also heard the victims were clothed. heard the pictures were deleted and on the hard drive of his laptop.
    What about witnessess.I figured they were just nasty photos of anonomous victims off the Netbut this is not correct.
    Did he take these ugly pictures?


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    I wonder if Karr's mental state will have an impact on sentencing charges in CA. (The charges are also only misdemeanors.) A good attorney could certainly use his fixation with JB to prove he wasn't competent.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky
    Can we fly parents in from Bangkok of children he raped and murdered?

    Doesn't the more serious charges come first in the International court of law?



    There are no charges waiting for him over there. He just has to serve his time in Calif and he is back on the streets again. At least if he returns to Bangkok the schools are all aware that he is a pervert and why he has lost every job in every school that he has ever taught in.


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