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  1. #1
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    Who were the House Guests?

    Does any know anything about the house guests staying at the Whites the night that JonBenet died?

    I've always thought it strange that the Ramseys would want Burke to go to a neighbor's home where there were strangers staying.

    In our neighborhood, over 10 years ago, there was a kidnapping (child of 8), and you better believe all of our neighbors made it a point to know EVERYBODY who was new or strange to our block.
    Everything I submit on this subject is my own personal opinion. I am basing my opinion on nothing other than the known facts in this case.

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    These guests were at the Whites' house the night before, so I'm sure they weren't strangers to the Ramseys...

    Besides, the Ramsey's knew Burke was safe from the bad guys....
    He's guilty. Get over it.

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    Interesting point...would not dismiss this...JMO

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    I think the R's should have been more worried about the FF Kidnappers, who were watching the Rs and who were dangerous enough to threaten beheading, without worrying about the White's house guests....

    jmo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Betsy
    Besides, the Ramsey's knew Burke was safe from the bad guys....
    But how did they know that?

    Obviously these kidnappers knew a good bit about the Ramseys...wouldn't you think they would also know a bit about the Whites, seeing as how they're the closest friends of the Rs? How did J & P know for sure that Burke would be safe leaving their house and going over to the W's house? How did they know the kidnappers weren't there after seeing the Whites arrive at the Rs house (because they were watching the R house - so they had to know the Whites arrived.) Perhaps if there had been a police escort, but there wasn't. I have wondered why the Ramseys didn't request one if they felt they needed to send Burke elsewhere while the drama unfolded. The only answer I can see is that John and Patsy knew Burke would be fine because there was no kidnapper. Same thing with when they sent him back to school - under the questionable lax Burke Watch.

    They knew he was safe from the bad guys because there weren't any.
    Where is Trenton Duckett?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuisanceposter
    But how did they know that?

    Obviously these kidnappers knew a good bit about the Ramseys...wouldn't you think they would also know a bit about the Whites, seeing as how they're the closest friends of the Rs? How did J & P know for sure that Burke would be safe leaving their house and going over to the W's house? How did they know the kidnappers weren't there after seeing the Whites arrive at the Rs house (because they were watching the R house - so they had to know the Whites arrived.) Perhaps if there had been a police escort, but there wasn't. I have wondered why the Ramseys didn't request one if they felt they needed to send Burke elsewhere while the drama unfolded. The only answer I can see is that John and Patsy knew Burke would be fine because there was no kidnapper. Same thing with when they sent him back to school - under the questionable lax Burke Watch.

    They knew he was safe from the bad guys because there weren't any.
    Yep. Exactly.
    He's guilty. Get over it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by i_dont_chat
    Does any know anything about the house guests staying at the Whites the night that JonBenet died?

    I've always thought it strange that the Ramseys would want Burke to go to a neighbor's home where there were strangers staying.

    In our neighborhood, over 10 years ago, there was a kidnapping (child of 8), and you better believe all of our neighbors made it a point to know EVERYBODY who was new or strange to our block.
    The houseguests were the Whites family and the Ramseys had no problem with Berke going because the killer was in the Ramsey home and was not planning on killing Berke and they knew it.

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    I think that in addition to family, there were many friends of the Whites in attendance. Some of these friends came in from out of state to attend the party.

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    The guests were Priscillas two sisters and their husband/boyfriends. I also believe Priscillas parents were present.

    One of the male guests was sleeping in the family den, watching the movie, "Nick of Time" starring Johnny Depp. Depp plays a father who's five-year-old gets kidnapped by a couple who want Depp to kill the Governor of California who is up for re-election.

    Priscilla and her sisters stayed awake until 2am that night talking.
    ...We have said to ourselves, look, there is never going to be a victory in this, there is no victory...John Ramsey: 6/24/98

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    Main Point Re Guests

    Yes, the two guys from California were with some FW relatives, but the question is, why would the women choose men who belonged to a Kali cult?

    If we're going to discuss them, that's a very big point that can't be overlooked. If one googles Kali, you find she's supposed to be a goddess of DEATH, etc. It's impossible to ignore all that, whatever it may or may not mean. If circumstantial evidence is used against one side it's only fair to do the same to the other side. Would Sherlock Holmes give them an automatic pass?


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    Kali = Time

    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle1
    Yes, the two guys from California were with some FW relatives, but the question is, why would the women choose men who belonged to a Kali cult?

    If we're going to discuss them, that's a very big point that can't be overlooked. If one googles Kali, you find she's supposed to be a goddess of DEATH, etc. It's impossible to ignore all that, whatever it may or may not mean. If circumstantial evidence is used against one side it's only fair to do the same to the other side. Would Sherlock Holmes give them an automatic pass?
    A stone that was never really turned over in my mind. "Kali" also means "Time". Kali is also the goddess of time as well as death. The RN refers to "time" alot and repetitively. "early, early, early, between 8 and 10".

    Did both men belong to the Kali cult? Was it that they were just into Martial Arts? Perhaps MA led them to Kali.

    Just in case IDI.

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    "Would Sherlock Holmes give them an automatic pass?"

    I'm not touching that one.
    I'm as mad as HELL and I'm NOT gonna take it anymore!.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle1
    Yes, the two guys from California were with some FW relatives, but the question is, why would the women choose men who belonged to a Kali cult?

    If we're going to discuss them, that's a very big point that can't be overlooked. If one googles Kali, you find she's supposed to be a goddess of DEATH, etc. It's impossible to ignore all that, whatever it may or may not mean. If circumstantial evidence is used against one side it's only fair to do the same to the other side. Would Sherlock Holmes give them an automatic pass?
    I'm interested in where you get the info that these guys were in a Kali cult.

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    Sources

    "Back when" we all discussed the Kali cult, I forget how many years ago, when we googled it no "goddess of time" was mentioned that I KNOW OF. Is this something new that has been added? You have a source, Rupert?

    Seeker, sorry, I couldn't possibly remember who first introduced that info or where THEY got it, so long ago. Don't know if you're one of Jams' members and if she might still have something about it archived. I've never been a member there so I'm not too familiar with the site.

    I think I hear you thinking this could be one of those rumors we've believed. Right? Would think you'd remember it. Who else do we have that might know?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle1
    "Back when" we all discussed the Kali cult, I forget how many years ago, when we googled it no "goddess of time" was mentioned that I KNOW OF. Is this something new that has been added? You have a source, Rupert?

    Seeker, sorry, I couldn't possibly remember who first introduced that info or where THEY got it, so long ago. Don't know if you're one of Jams' members and if she might still have something about it archived. I've never been a member there so I'm not too familiar with the site.

    I think I hear you thinking this could be one of those rumors we've believed. Right? Would think you'd remember it. Who else do we have that might know?
    No, I've never been a member over there, never wanted to be either, but esp after the way she posted (more than once) a posters real life info so everyone could see it and harassed that posters employer as well.

    I think whoever introduced that info was simply speculating based on some mind twisted theory of theirs that it was FW and his house guests that killed JBR and that they were pedophiles. I do remember some whacked out theory like that. Didn't pay it much mind because first of all cults don't provide a members list of names.

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