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    Stun Gun

    Okay, bear with me. But I have a question re the stun gun and I have read all the pros and cons. One con I read was that the marks would have been red. However, my son brought to my attention a video he saw on stun guns and the marks they left were black and the spacing looked similar to JB's marks.

    So help me out here and tell me what you think. Thanks, Solace

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    Except, as Cutter has shown, the spacing was all wrong.
    I'm as mad as HELL and I'm NOT gonna take it anymore!.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperDave
    Except, as Cutter has shown, the spacing was all wrong.
    Okay, I guess I have to read about it again. As I recall, the spacing is off also. But they do look similar.

    Do you have any ideas as to what the marks were?

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    Has it been determined that the amount of spacing between the points on stun guns is universal??? Or, does it vary with the make/model of the stun gun?

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    There was NO STUN GUN. The ME noted the marks were ABRASIONS not burns. A stun gun leaves burns, not abrasions. There is NO expert who believes the marks were made by a stun gun. Even that idiot Dobson that Tracey/Smit payed off to say they were stun gun burns contradicted himself in that crockumentary because he previously stated publically that you couldn't tell what the marks were from a photograph, which is all he had to go by.

    EVERY SINGLE EXPERT HAS NIXED THE STUN GUN THEORY... EVERY ONE.

    The whole stupid stun gun theory that Smit came up with is ridiculous on its face as a stun gun does not render a person unconscious, which was the whole POINT to the stun gun theory.

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    "Has it been determined that the amount of spacing between the points on stun guns is universal??? Or, does it vary with the make/model of the stun gun?"

    Pretty standard, julianne.

    "There was NO STUN GUN. The ME noted the marks were ABRASIONS not burns. A stun gun leaves burns, not abrasions. There is NO expert who believes the marks were made by a stun gun. Even that idiot Dobson that Tracey/Smit payed off to say they were stun gun burns contradicted himself in that crockumentary because he previously stated publically that you couldn't tell what the marks were from a photograph, which is all he had to go by."

    He was on CourtTV last night talking about Gerald Boggs. The marks on Boggs were raised and red with greyish centers, just like mine.

    "The whole stupid stun gun theory that Smit came up with is ridiculous on its face as a stun gun does not render a person unconscious, which was the whole POINT to the stun gun theory."

    Right, the stunner works by making the muscles work inefficiently. You wear yourself out.
    I'm as mad as HELL and I'm NOT gonna take it anymore!.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperDave
    "Has it been determined that the amount of spacing between the points on stun guns is universal??? Or, does it vary with the make/model of the stun gun?"

    Pretty standard, julianne.

    "There was NO STUN GUN. The ME noted the marks were ABRASIONS not burns. A stun gun leaves burns, not abrasions. There is NO expert who believes the marks were made by a stun gun. Even that idiot Dobson that Tracey/Smit payed off to say they were stun gun burns contradicted himself in that crockumentary because he previously stated publically that you couldn't tell what the marks were from a photograph, which is all he had to go by."

    He was on CourtTV last night talking about Gerald Boggs. The marks on Boggs were raised and red with greyish centers, just like mine.

    "The whole stupid stun gun theory that Smit came up with is ridiculous on its face as a stun gun does not render a person unconscious, which was the whole POINT to the stun gun theory."

    Right, the stunner works by making the muscles work inefficiently. You wear yourself out.
    Dave,
    I'm just thankful that you've not been this dedicated to any case in which you suspected the use of carbon monoxide poisoning or antifreeze or some untraceable toxin! We NEED and appreciate you around here!!!

    May I ask, when you tested the stun gun, how long were its effects noticable with you?

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    "May I ask, when you tested the stun gun, how long were its effects noticable with you?"

    Well, I didn't time it, but I'd say a few minutes. The idea is for the effects not to be permanent. See, the way it works is by delivering a high voltage but with a low amperage.
    I'm as mad as HELL and I'm NOT gonna take it anymore!.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperDave
    "May I ask, when you tested the stun gun, how long were its effects noticable with you?"

    Well, I didn't time it, but I'd say a few minutes. The idea is for the effects not to be permanent. See, the way it works is by delivering a high voltage but with a low amperage.
    Ahh... Thank you. On a much smaller less 'stunning' scale, similar to the electric fence I touched barefoot, as a child ???... It knocked me senseless and immobile for several minutes!

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    "Ahh... Thank you. On a much smaller less 'stunning' scale, similar to the electric fence I touched barefoot, as a child ???... It knocked me senseless and immobile for several minutes!"

    I wouldn't doubt it! Although, the fence may have had a higher amperage than my stunner does. You're lucky you weren't hurt worse than that!
    I'm as mad as HELL and I'm NOT gonna take it anymore!.


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    There was no stun gun...

    ...this is not rocket science folks....The more you apply the Occam's Razor theory of solving crimes to this case, the easier it gets...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cappuccina
    ...this is not rocket science folks....The more you apply the Occam's Razor theory of solving crimes to this case, the easier it gets...
    True,and another thing that makes it easier is to read DOI as well as look at what the R's say,esp JR.Whenever he talks,everything starts to make sense if you look at it the opposite way,which is why I think the head wound came first.(JR says it came last).It seems they both want things to appear so differently from what probably actually happened.

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    I have to agree with the opposite idea, JMO8778. I think anytime the Rs support anything is when they know it's not the case, such as with the stun gun. They back up the stun gun theory as hard as they do because they know no stun gun was used and it's nothing but advantageous to them to get others to believe it was. Same with the EA strangulation situation - they back that up because they know that isn't what happened, but it sure helps them look like they didn't do it if people believe it did. Same thing with the head wound coming after the strangling.
    Where is Trenton Duckett?

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    The Stun Gun is another Lou Smit fairy-tale.

    I always imagined him and John meeting at his house, exchanging pleasantries, then getting down to business.

    Lou Smit: John how are we going to move forward on this case?

    John Ramsey: Well Lou there is a killer out there, we need help in finding him.

    Lou Smit: John you reckon we should pray to the Good Lord, and ask for guidance?

    John Ramsey: Sure Lou thats a great idea.

    Hands clasped, heads bowed.

    Lou Smit: I'm hearing a voice that says Intruder.

    John Ramsey: Yeah Lou thats what I've always felt.

    Lou Smit: A Crazy, someone with no Christian principles.

    John Ramsey: Sure Lou, a sick guy with no morals, definitely not a churchgoer.

    Lou Smit: I sense this is a deviant, someone who will not be among those blessed with salvation when Christ walks with us again.

    John Ramsey: I agree Lou, a pervert type, he must have some kind of fetish to use ropes, and do the stuff he did.

    Lou Smit: I have a feeling he came armed, maybe with a gun as well as a knife etc.

    John Ramsey: Of course Lou, how about a stun gun, do those crazy types go for stun guns, I remember reading about them in some catalog?

    Lou Smit: Sure John, could be, maybe thats what those marks are on JonBenet's body?

    John Ramsey: Praise The Lord Lou, it kinda fits, a crazy type with a stun gun, How you reckon he got in?

    Lou Smit: Maybe he snuck in, while you were out at the White's.

    John Ramsey: Lou you are a genius, you reckon we might do a Press Release on this, someone out there might know a psycho who has a thing about ropes?

    Lou Smit: Sure John, just give me some time to fill out this Intruder theory a little.

    John Ramsey: OK Lou, I feel something working through us, must be the power of prayer, you are blessed with grace.

    Lou Smit: I read from the Good Book each day, thats all. To finish off, lets offer up a prayer for JonBenet?

    John Ramsey: Thats so thoughtful Lou, lets do that ...

    Dear Lord ...


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    Just in case one of the fine posters at WS still thinks there was a stun gun involved I would ask you to read right here.

    http://www.forumsforjustice.org/foru...ead.php?t=4708

    Please keep in mind when John Ramsey was asked by Barbara Walters why he did not exhume JonBenet to do more tests to prove the stun gun theory he said he just wanted to let "JonBenet Rest."

    Two things.

    First...if your child was murdered and by exhuming her you would help move forward the investigation wouldn't you do it? You wouldn't hesitate for a moment would you.

    Second...if John and Patsy are true Christians then they know JonBenet is not in the grave. She is not "resting" there. It is her shell.

    There is only one reason why John and Patsy did not want to exhume JonBenet....they knew there was no stun gun.

    Better to keep floating the stun gun rumor than to have it disproved by exhumation.
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