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    Some Personal Info re NO after Katrina

    This came from an email that was forwarded to a friend of mine from NO from someone we both knew back in NO who works for the paper of record there.
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    "They may have downplayed the violence that happened here but happen it did. Charmaine Neville was raped on the roof of her shelter. Later stole a bus and took as many away from that shelter as she could. A N.O. Saint who lived in the east personally saw a man shot in the head for his car. and those special ops forces were brought in just to deal with the gangs. They had one order - exterminate. And they did. 2 gangs had joined forces and were so well organized they had walkie talkies and a complete blue print of the areas they were going to hit. The special forces got to them first and not one person who knows about this regrets it or feels sorry for them."

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
    This came from an email that was forwarded to a friend of mine from NO from someone we both knew back in NO who works for the paper of record there.
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    "They may have downplayed the violence that happened here but happen it did. Charmaine Neville was raped on the roof of her shelter. Later stole a bus and took as many away from that shelter as she could. A N.O. Saint who lived in the east personally saw a man shot in the head for his car. and those special ops forces were brought in just to deal with the gangs. They had one order - exterminate. And they did. 2 gangs had joined forces and were so well organized they had walkie talkies and a complete blue print of the areas they were going to hit. The special forces got to them first and not one person who knows about this regrets it or feels sorry for them."
    I'm not sure how much of Charmaine Nevilles story I believe. She says she personally escorted two women with no legs in wheel chairs to higher safer ground through water filled with dead babies and alligators plus led dozens of other people to higher ground, all the while she's saving these other woman in the water and says the people shooting at helicopters were only trying to get their attention, not out of anger or anything. She may have been raped but I'm still pondering the other things she has said.

    Her story actually reminds me of that teenaged boy who stole a school bus, gathered folks on the way to houston, only to be denied entrance to the shelter there then arrested for stealing the bus!

    The special ops mentioned were just plain ol reserve units. They may be thinking of the security group BATS, Bodyguard And Tactical Services, from Alabama that is a private security firm brought in by a big cat, Quinn, over federal contracts. But that wasn't right after Katrina. The ones there with guns were national guard units. And yes, they shot people, but these people had assault rifles and ak47s. I'd shoot too! They reported the shoot outs.

    The gangs haven't left either. There are some areas you don't even drive through. LaPlace being one that is being over run with Mexican gangs now. They pay illigeals to come in and work. I have personally seen at least one whole block that looks like something out of a movie set with houses that are half finished with about 10 or more living in one house, garbage everywhere, debris like waterlogged cars sitting everywhere and shootings nearly every night. There is a drag queen gang on Magazine street, still, and I feel in my bones that MS-13 has a presence there.

    While folks talk about signs...yippee!, there are some areas so blighted that even hard core residents refuse to even consider going there in the daytime.

    Traffic is a joke! Takes over an hour to cross the causeway, street signs are still down, regardless of what they are saying, corruption is rampant with contractors bringing in mexicans to work for them and either stealing the money, the supplies or both and leaving. The mexicans then have no place to go, no job and not enough of a business presence alive to hire them. Contractors stealing money from people only to change their names and do it again in a new area. House prices are just sickening. I have family that can't even afford to come back to school because they can't afford rent.

    It's just a huge mess. Yes, it's only been a year with most of it taken up with removing debris from 30,000 homes and businesses and I understand that it will take years before it gets better, but the in fighting in the government and with FEMA esp needs to stop!

    It just stinks! On one hand, we need the tourist money so I understand why the French Quarter is up and running, slowly, on the other, we have a hard time finding simple things like food on a reg basis unless we go out of the city and who wants to go 90 miles to Baton Rouge for groceries? My husband stood in line the other night at wal mart for over 2 hours for three items of food. It's like that every minute of the day there. Sigh

    My husband and his co workers have been in FEMA trailers since Jan. We are trying to find a house, but the others are fighting to get their houses fixed. They never left, have been working on co workers homes yet can't get the money to fix their own. It's like they paid insurance for no reason. Yet others come in and claim false claims and get checks in 3 weeks! Crazy I tell ya! Sorry, didn't meant to highjack your thread.

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    I have a friend whose dog was attacked and eaten by a displaced gator during the flood, so I don't discredit anything from the Neville family, some of whom lived in my old neighborhood. I also know someone whose sister's best friend (a doctor who volunteered) was raped in the Astro Dome ladies room within a hour of arriving there to help.

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    I'm not saying those things didn't happen. We both know worse than that happened. I'm not going to debate if she's a hero to the world or just plays one in her mind.

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    BhamaMama -

    Over two years later after Hurricane Charley hit here, the groundbreaking ceremony for the SCHOOLS was yesterday.

    Affordable housing?! FEMA threatens with eviction dates on the trailors right up until the last possible second and then gives another extension.

    Nothing looks or feels the same - but everything is brand new and we are alive so there's my

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    I agree it could be worse.

    I haven't found any affordable housing within 2 hours of New Orleans. Not sure what we are going to do but something has to give. I have 6 kids at home and I'm tired of being apart from my husband.

    There is a house we want in Mandeville, needs lots of work, but I don't care at this point. We know how to fix things and we'll be together. Course the toll into the city everyday hurts and the causeway itself not being my favorite is a con, again, I don't care.

    Everything will work out, it has so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BhamMama
    I agree it could be worse.

    I haven't found any affordable housing within 2 hours of New Orleans. Not sure what we are going to do but something has to give. I have 6 kids at home and I'm tired of being apart from my husband.

    There is a house we want in Mandeville, needs lots of work, but I don't care at this point. We know how to fix things and we'll be together. Course the toll into the city everyday hurts and the causeway itself not being my favorite is a con, again, I don't care.

    Everything will work out, it has so far.
    then when you find an affordable house you will have to struggle to pay your energy bill(since there will be a 30% increase even though Entergy said there would be no increase if the Louisiana recover associatin would give them some money. they gave them 2billion), homeowners insurance and your property taxes. then you have to pay for private school for your kids (then norm in N.O. b/c of the horrid conditions of the public schools). Did I miss anything? People wonder why N.O. isn't recovering and why places on the Northshore are booming. PIcayune, MS has seen it population triple since katrina. The electricity thing I don't get, in MS we had just as many, if not more power lines down ( the night or 08/29/05 the entire state was dark) the companies lost just as much, yet we haven't seen a rate increase. this summer out power bill was the same as pre katrina. I can't understand why LA is sucha bunch of crooks, people wonder why i don't live there anymore.

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    I don't know how much longer the people I know will be able to remain in NO. Most still have their homes, but well over half no longer have jobs. The thought of having to deal with the inherently corrupt LA government plus the traditionally incompetent NO city government under dire circumstances would be enough to make me move if I was still living there. As it was, that was what made me decide to pack it up 15 years ago, after a decade spent living in the city.

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    Apparently comic/juggler/magician & long time French Quarter resident & business owner, Harry Anderson, has finally reached the same conclusion I did back in 1992. His comments re the city and the people running it are fairly astute.

    http://www.nola.com/rose/t-p/index.s...290.xml&coll=1

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    I thought I either read somewhere or saw on TV an interview that New Orleans is going to be developed for the rich.

    As in Donald Trump is going to build in NO.


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    The city of New Orleans re-elected MaYOR Nagin for a new term so it is hard to give the city any respect. Mayor Nagin is not totally responsiable for the hardship but he is not helping. I live in Atlanta now and I will never go back.

    One question.
    How much are you paying for those FEMA homes?

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    How very sad. The corruption and ineptness just goes goes on and on. Perhaps many people will actually be better off somewhere else, though, as has been said: "There's no place like home."

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    what,, so the rich can all drown next time there's a major hurricane....???

    hhhhmmm.. i guess anything is worth the all-important "waterfront view"....

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    Quote Originally Posted by reb
    what,, so the rich can all drown next time there's a major hurricane....???

    hhhhmmm.. i guess anything is worth the all-important "waterfront view"....

    The rich lived in the high ground part of town..as always...

    The best model for the recovery of NO is Galveston. It came back, alright. But mostly as a tourist resort. There are a few hardcore, wealthy BOI (Born on the Island) people, a few middlin' BOI, and a lot of poverty for the rest. The Island is booming with construction and tourist type jobs, but that's about it.

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    We are use to paying high power bills and even higher gas bills. That much won't change sadly. We are renting so no homeowners insurance or property taxes. I homeschool so no public schools for us. I'm not even sure we'd need flood insurance.

    I'm not sure about the increases either. Much of what is going on baffles me. It's very frustrating to deal with.

    We signed for the house on Northshore today and will be back down there all together by the 2nd week of Nov. We are renting because we know for sure that in 2 years we will be leaving for either Beaumont, Texas or Tampa, Florida. That's just the nature of my husbands job. As many times as we've had to deal with the whole moving thing, this has been the hardest and most disorganized ever. Not on our part. We knew they wanted us back fulltime since Feb, I've been packed and waiting since March. Dh's company is just now getting machinery. The red tape to do anything has really been the hardest thing. You hurry up and wait and the left hand has no clue what the right hand is doing and will deny it if confronted with the truth.

    Somebody asked how much for the FEMA trailers, I wouldn't call them homes, we paid nothing. It sits on my husbands job in the parking lot. It is not ours but for anyone in the company that didn't have a home. There are 10 of them total. They are not hooked up to water but do have electric, they are not tied down but resting on blocks and these metal things that stabilize it. At one time there were 3 men to each trailer and they had others for whole families. In Jan of this year there were 62 trailers, now down to these last 10. FEMA comes and gets the ones they no longer need when the company tells them they have no need for it. A new guy from Tampa will take my husbands place when we get moved in.

    We were lucky in that I have my whole family in Alabama and always had a place to go, no matter how tired I get of it, we've been very blessed.


    Quote Originally Posted by 2sisters
    then when you find an affordable house you will have to struggle to pay your energy bill(since there will be a 30% increase even though Entergy said there would be no increase if the Louisiana recover associatin would give them some money. they gave them 2billion), homeowners insurance and your property taxes. then you have to pay for private school for your kids (then norm in N.O. b/c of the horrid conditions of the public schools). Did I miss anything? People wonder why N.O. isn't recovering and why places on the Northshore are booming. PIcayune, MS has seen it population triple since katrina. The electricity thing I don't get, in MS we had just as many, if not more power lines down ( the night or 08/29/05 the entire state was dark) the companies lost just as much, yet we haven't seen a rate increase. this summer out power bill was the same as pre katrina. I can't understand why LA is sucha bunch of crooks, people wonder why i don't live there anymore.

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