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    RN Keywords

    Forgive me for the long post. I'm drawing a conclusion from what I have learned over several years.

    To me there seems to be only six alternatives about who wrote the Ransom Note: an insider to cover-up, an outsider that wanted to make a political statement, an outsider with a personal vendetta against John Ramsay, a wacko pervert outsider who just wants to kill JonBenet, an outsider close to the family that needed to shut-up JonBenet, or a hired gun that took out John Ramsay‘s ability to further his career and buy out the company. I pulled out the essential signal keywords in the RN (might have missed one or two) and am trying to see how they fit together in the various themes. Maybe you have other possible themes? Compare them with the RN Keywords and see how consistent they are.

    I kind of think it was an RDI cover up or personal business vendetta against John. However, if it was a vendetta against John, then how could the perp know and be able to imitate Patsy’s handwriting? Sadly, because I don’t believe anyone would have the brains to imitate Patsy’s handwriting, I once again slide to the RDI side if the fence. I wish I could come up with any ideas that would explain the questions I have raised in the IDI themes below.

    1. RDI cover-up
    2. IDI Foreign Faction Statement
    3. IDI Personal Vendetta on John Ramsay
    4. IDI wacko
    5. IDI shut-up JonBenet
    6. IDI take-out John Ramsay

    1. Theme: RDI cover-up
    Group of individuals; foreign faction - ruse
    $118,000.00 - ruse, deflect and infer suspicion on employee envy about bonus
    Attache - ruse
    Well rested - ? feminine
    Early, early, early - urgency
    Delivery, delivery, delivery, pick-up - urgency
    Two gentlemen - feminine; 2 = ruse
    Stray dog pissing against a lamp post - movie
    She dies , she dies, she dies - movie Ruthless threat
    Scanned, monitor - computer savy
    Grow a brain - movie Speed
    Fat cat - infer envy on John as fat cat
    Victory - saved by the cross
    S.B.T.C - saved by the cross

    Seems consistent with limited movie knowledge of kidnapping, deflection, and inside knowledge.

    2. Theme: IDI Foreign Faction Statement
    Group of individuals; foreign faction - political statement
    $118,000.00 - ?; 1900 bills?, why the mystery of $118k?
    Attache - political statement
    Well rested - ?
    Early, early, early - urgency or reference to Norm Early head of Security for Lockheed?
    Delivery, delivery, delivery, pick-up - urgency
    Two gentlemen - feminine; 2 = ruse
    Stray dog pissing against a lamp post - movie
    She dies , she dies, she dies - movie Ruthless threat
    Scanned, monitor - computer savy
    Grow a brain - movie Speed
    Fat cat - fat cats control power and politics
    Victory - this is a win for the Foreign Faction
    S.B.T.C - Stop Bombing Thirdworld Countries

    Okay, poltical activist fits with younger person who watches kidnap crime movies. But how would the perp know that this would become a public attention getter? How would the perp get inside knowledge? Why the need to express kidnap crime movie references? This is supposed to be a political action; not pulp fiction. Doesn’t work for me.

    3. Theme: IDI Personal Vendetta on John Ramsay
    Group of individuals; foreign faction - ruse
    $118,000.00 - envy about $118k bonus; insider knowledge
    Attache - ruse
    Well rested - ?, feminine?
    Early, early, early - urgency
    Delivery, delivery, delivery, pick-up - urgency, delivery business?
    Two gentlemen - feminine; 2 = ruse
    Stray dog pissing against a lamp post - movie
    She dies , she dies, she dies - movie Ruthless threat
    Scanned, monitor - computer savy
    Grow a brain - movie Speed
    Fat cat - envy John as a fat cat
    Victory - this is a vendetta
    S.B.T.C - ?, Small Business Technical Coalition?

    This could be a vengeful person with inside knowledge of $118k bonus, who is young enough to be obsessed with kidnap crime movies and is related to John by business. Could be female. Has some consistency.

    4. IDI wacko
    Group of individuals; foreign faction - ruse
    $118,000.00 - why mention this?, inside knowledge?
    Attache - ruse
    Well rested - ?, perverse
    Early, early, early - urgency
    Delivery, delivery, delivery, pick-up - urgency, delivery business?
    Two gentlemen - feminine; 2 = ruse
    Stray dog pissing against a lamp post - movie
    She dies , she dies, she dies - movie Ruthless threat
    Scanned, monitor - computer savy
    Grow a brain - movie Speed
    Fat cat - envy fat cat
    Victory - why a victory?
    S.B.T.C - ?

    Although consistent with obsession and perversion with kidnap crime movies, why the wacko's $118k insider knowledge and why a victory? This doesn’t work for me.

    5. IDI shut up JonBenet
    Group of individuals; foreign faction - ruse
    $118,000.00 - why mention it and draw attention to Insider knowledge
    Attache - ruse
    Well rested - feminine
    Early, early, early - urgency
    Delivery, delivery, delivery, pick-up - urgency
    Two gentlemen - feminine; 2 = ruse
    Stray dog pissing against a lamp post - movie
    She dies , she dies, she dies - movie Ruthless threat
    Scanned, monitor - computer savy
    Grow a brain - movie Speed
    Fat cat - why envy fat cat
    Victory - why a vendetta
    S.B.T.C - ?

    Why would the perp want to draw attention to someone close to the R’s when they are trying to sut-up JonBenet? Doesn’t work for me.

    6. IDI take-out John Ramsay
    Group of individuals; foreign faction - ruse
    $118,000.00 - why mention it and draw attention to insider knowledge?
    Attache - ruse
    Well rested - ?
    Early, early, early - urgency
    Delivery, delivery, delivery, pick-up - urgency
    Two gentlemen - feminine; 2 = ruse
    Stray dog pissing against a lamp post - movie
    She dies , she dies, she dies - movie Ruthless threat
    Scanned, monitor - computer savy
    Grow a brain - movie Speed
    Fat cat - envy fat cat
    Victory - why a victory
    S.B.T.C - ?

    A hired take-out would not write all this stuff. Doesn’t work for me.


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    Very Impressionable Perp

    Whether the perp turns out to be male or female or other, at least we know the perp is extremely IMPRESSIONABLE, right?

    If they could remember so much about movies, and knew the Ramseys well enough, received Christmas letters, maybe, isn't it maybe possible the perp could imitate Patsy's style, something like comedian impersonators sounding just like some famous character, so we'd all recognize without being told, who the impersonator is imitating?

    I'd have to read through your post again to go any farther. This is just elementary, it seems to me, that the RN could be a form of IMPERSONATING.

    Some people simply have an uncanny talent for it.

    So far, we don't know if any of the Rs' friends or acquaintances had this ability. They'd have recognized such a person, immediately, from the note. (Remember I'm neutral, haven't chosen sides. Interested in all points of view, not defending or accusing anyone.)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle1
    Whether the perp turns out to be male or female or other, at least we know the perp is extremely IMPRESSIONABLE, right?

    If they could remember so much about movies, and knew the Ramseys well enough, received Christmas letters, maybe, isn't it maybe possible the perp could imitate Patsy's style, something like comedian impersonators sounding just like some famous character, so we'd all recognize without being told, who the impersonator is imitating?

    I'd have to read through your post again to go any farther. This is just elementary, it seems to me, that the RN could be a form of IMPERSONATING.

    Some people simply have an uncanny talent for it.

    So far, we don't know if any of the Rs' friends or acquaintances had this ability. They'd have recognized such a person, immediately, from the note. (Remember I'm neutral, haven't chosen sides. Interested in all points of view, not defending or accusing anyone.)
    Well, if it was an intruder, then maybe we should look for someone who could impersonate Patsy's writing. That sounds like stretching it, but it does make some sense if you're searching for an intruder. SH went to prison for forging and John did not want to pay her and her husband the $36k. Split two ways that's $18k as someone suggested. I can't imagine anyone cunning enough to do that, unless of course they wanted to take away his daughter and then make him suspicious of his wife to boot. Another employee SS might have gotten more letters from Patsy.

    I think it's stretching it. Either Patsy wrote the RN or someone concidently had writing like hers.


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    <<Either Patsy wrote the RN or someone concidently had writing like hers>>

    If you come to the conclusion that PR wrote the note-why?
    To cover her butt, or someone elses?

    I can't quite come at PR writing that note by herself ...the way it prattles on is PR all over though...the use of the word attache, would she be so stupid?
    That gets me that word.


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    Comedian Impersonaters

    Quote Originally Posted by Rupert
    Well, if it was an intruder, then maybe we should look for someone who could impersonate Patsy's writing. That sounds like stretching it, but it does make some sense if you're searching for an intruder. SH went to prison for forging and John did not want to pay her and her husband the $36k. Split two ways that's $18k as someone suggested. I can't imagine anyone cunning enough to do that, unless of course they wanted to take away his daughter and then make him suspicious of his wife to boot. Another employee SS might have gotten more letters from Patsy.

    I think it's stretching it. Either Patsy wrote the RN or someone concidently had writing like hers.
    All of us have seen comedians impersonate famous people, we recognized from the voice and characteristic mannerisms. (Hope my spelling is close enough that you get my drift.) Hollywood stars are usually the ones imitated, like Bette Davis, James Stewart, James Cagny, etc.

    Could it happen that someone is cunning enough to impersonate someone's handwriting and habitual manner of writing, as well as the other usual things that have to be viewed? Why not? It'd be a useful tool in crimes,going to be pinned on someone else, would it not?

    Thank you for being unbiased so we can consider both sides of the question. I'm thinking the note writer is just as much a show-off as Patsy, or even more so, being male, and goes farther, even to killing.

    But if all the friends belonged to some satanic cult as well as to some church, the Ramseys certainly could have been involved, may have considered it just good business, and rationalized that JB was always sedated and wouldn't be permanently emotionally harmed. Did Bette Davis have a unique writing style? Doesn't everyone?


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    [Rupert]Well, if it was an intruder, then maybe we should look for someone who could impersonate Patsy's writing. That sounds like stretching it, but it does make some sense if you're searching for an intruder.
    But why should an intruder take the trouble to learn about Patsy's handwriting in order to imitate it in a ransom note, only to ask for a measly sum of $118,000 from this multimillionaire family?
    Occcam's razor applied: Patsy Ramsey wrote the note. The similarities between her handwriting and the note are striking:

    http://www.acandyrose.com/02182003dh911motion.pdf


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    Quote Originally Posted by rashomon
    But why should an intruder take the trouble to learn about Patsy's handwriting in order to imitate it in a ransom note, only to ask for a measly sum of $118,000 from this multimillionaire family?
    Occcam's razor applied: Patsy Ramsey wrote the note. The similarities between her handwriting and the note are striking:

    http://www.acandyrose.com/02182003dh911motion.pdf
    There is no intruder. It was Patsy.

    IMO.


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    Maybe I Can Answer That

    Quote Originally Posted by rashomon
    But why should an intruder take the trouble to learn about Patsy's handwriting in order to imitate it in a ransom note, only to ask for a measly sum of $118,000 from this multimillionaire family?
    Occcam's razor applied: Patsy Ramsey wrote the note. The similarities between her handwriting and the note are striking:

    http://www.acandyrose.com/02182003dh911motion.pdf

    Mindset of the "Intruder" friend or whatever, showing off his POWER to (1) "monitor" them, (2) impersonate them almost perfectly, (3) kill their child with impunity, (4) ) have them hounded about it the rest of their lives.never being able to do anything about it even if they know or suspect who did it or caused it to be done,(5) Amount was also sarcasm, and to show that he knew how much the bonus was, didn't really need money, etc. Whole thing a showing-off, that he had immunity and power over these people. He was also showing off that he did not need ransom money. Cruel as the devil himself. He'd probably flattered the R's in some way to get close to them. Awfully prideful himself, he probably figured the R's were prideful and needed his "humbling", which would stay with them the rest of their lives.

    " If" Patsy wrote the note, so what, she had no choice but to try to cover up what may have really been going on with "the friends". "If" she wrote the note it still doesn't prove she killed JonBenet, and the thrush (mouth?) infection may indicate oral sex by a male was being forced on the probably-sedated child. Nobody's proved that anybody did it, so far. Appearances can be deceiving. So deceiving.

    Remember the Valerie Plame or Plume thing, which just may have all been staged to remind Americans that we can't expose a secret agent?

    I'm thinking it's "The Spy Who Came in from the Cold", meant to google that and see what it's about, just borrowing the title.

    According to some crime shows on MSNBC Sunday night, serial killers get high on killing just like on heroin, are motivated by POWER, and have to soon have another.

    But we haven't heard of this exact m.o. in any other case unless Danielle Van Dam, if that guy who's in prison for it was just a fall guy. I forget his name. Westerfield? They were showing that Rampage killers are motivated differently from serial ones, typically have moved far from home for a job, leaving their support system behind, and it all falls through, so they may decide to kill a thousand people, usually are stopped before 25, kill themselves. There should maybe be a profile for this type of killer, like Adam Walsh's killer, but not enough is known about them yet, must be few and far between. They met him in Houston? Just a tentative theory that would explain some things, correctly or not.


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    According to some crime shows on MSNBC Sunday night, serial killers get high on killing just like on heroin, are motivated by POWER, and have to soon have another.

    But we haven't heard of this exact m.o. in any other case
    Correct on both counts.
    Vae Victus! (May the conquered suffer!)
    Celerem vindictam manu! (Swift hand of vengeance!)


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    He's Simply a Show-Off

    Quote Originally Posted by rashomon
    But why should an intruder take the trouble to learn about Patsy's handwriting in order to imitate it in a ransom note, only to ask for a measly sum of $118,000 from this multimillionaire family?
    Occcam's razor applied: Patsy Ramsey wrote the note. The similarities between her handwriting and the note are striking:

    http://www.acandyrose.com/02182003dh911motion.pdf
    Why would he take the trouble to learn Patsy's style? Because he could, and enjoyed fooling people.

    I think he's the same one who kept phoning PR according to The Patricia Letters, evidently trying to get more attention than JonBenet, jealous of her, and the same one who slept in JonBenet's bed at Charlevoix. The length of the RN also is because of his wanting attention w/out revealing who he is or taking responsibility for anything. Psych question would be, was he deprived in childhood of a normal amount of parental attention, something like Karr, or was he a spoiled brat, malicious because why? Some people seem to have a genius for evil. Why? Not that there's any excuse.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle1
    Why would he take the trouble to learn Patsy's style? Because he could, and enjoyed fooling people.

    I think he's the same one who kept phoning PR according to The Patricia Letters, evidently trying to get more attention than JonBenet, jealous of her, and the same one who slept in JonBenet's bed at Charlevoix. The length of the RN also is because of his wanting attention w/out revealing who he is or taking responsibility for anything. Psych question would be, was he deprived in childhood of a normal amount of parental attention, something like Karr, or was he a spoiled brat, malicious because why? Some people seem to have a genius for evil. Why? Not that there's any excuse.
    The note was addressed to John. No mention of Patsy, yet she was the mother. The practice note was addressed to "Mr. and Mrs. I", the "I" could have been the downstroke of an "R". Regardless, why would the author not include the mother?

    Well, if it was an intruder, then it seems at first hand to have been a personal vengeance towards John. But to include the impersonation of Patsy's writing, then the perp would have to have planned it.

    The timing does fit with a possible motive of jealous vengeance towards John: the $1 billion sales, $118k bonus, "Esprit" business award (remember the heartdrawn magazine). Perhaps the perp was comparing himself to John. But why the girl? Perhaps he was a pedophile too and needed to shut her up. So maybe that's why he planned it.

    I wonder why Foster went from being first convinced that PR did not write it to being so convinced she did. I also wonder if Foster ever considered a forgerer, someone imitating PR. I gathered from Foster's final statements that there are many things (more than just the basics) that led him to believe Patsy wrote the note. Perhaps in his mind Foster ruled out any forgery as well.

    So where are we? Either an RDI coverup or an IDI with peculiar ability to imitate Patsy's writing.

    On one hand, you could ask why would Patsy write such a long incriminating note? Well, perhaps to make it look like a kidnapping, but that is so overboard. Well, perhaps she was overboard with some obvious vengeance towards John. Or perhaps they wrote it together and just threw in everything they could think of to make it look like it was a personal vengeance with multiple suspects.

    On the other hand, perhaps it was an intruder jealous of John and a pedophile to boot. He wrote a long note to express his anger and frame the Ramsays. Perhaps he imitated Patsy's writing to disguise his own and planned that ahead.

    It just seems like a tall order for an intruder to plan ahead and imitate Patsy's writing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by rashomon
    But why should an intruder take the trouble to learn about Patsy's handwriting in order to imitate it in a ransom note, only to ask for a measly sum of $118,000 from this multimillionaire family?
    Occcam's razor applied: Patsy Ramsey wrote the note. The similarities between her handwriting and the note are striking:

    http://www.acandyrose.com/02182003dh911motion.pdf
    IA,it has her earmarks all over it.
    I don't think the whole note is hard to figure out,as far as the remarks made and things referred to.$118,000=amt of JR's bonus;R's trying to frame LHP using the note=knowing she could have likely seen something in the house ref. to his bonus and assumed he would have that amt available as petty cash.$118,000 isn't a lot of money,but for someone needing and asking to borrow $2500,it IS a lot,and the R's knew that.
    "Good southern common sense"..inside family joke,knowing LHP could have overheard that(again, R's trying to frame her).
    I could go on but I think the point is made.As far as movie quotes,those were pretty common lines we've all heard in action films;PR being the overdoer that she was,like ST said,it was a 'HollyWood-ized ransom note'.Same with the 911 call...kidnapping, ransom note...the drama's pretty far out there for real life.I think she realized that for a moment when she made the call...she started to say,'we have a ran....' and stopped...then said 'there's a note left and our daughter is gone'.But I caught that first, and then only later in the call did PR say it was a ransom note. I think for a moment there,she knew it wouldn't sound beleiveable.
    She obviously started to say,'we have a ransom note'.
    Listen to the 911 call again if you didn't catch that.
    Last edited by JMO8778; 11-10-2006 at 01:29 PM.
    something to ponder:

    When the corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and the mortal have put on immortality, then shall we be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

    O death, where [is] thy sting? O grave, where [is] thy victory?

    The sting of death [is] sin; and the strength of sin [is] the law.
    But thanks [be] to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
    1 Corinthians 15:54-57


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rupert

    It just seems like a tall order for an intruder to plan ahead and imitate Patsy's writing.
    I agree;I think that's overthinking it.I think an intruder would have brought the note with him,already written so he could simply leave it out to be found.
    And how would he know if he would even have time to write one?
    something to ponder:

    When the corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and the mortal have put on immortality, then shall we be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

    O death, where [is] thy sting? O grave, where [is] thy victory?

    The sting of death [is] sin; and the strength of sin [is] the law.
    But thanks [be] to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
    1 Corinthians 15:54-57


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    True. But a Lot to Carry

    Evidently whoever did it, IDI or RDI, he KNEW rope would be available in the house, right? And a yellow legal pad, and whatever else. Why carry anything with him that might fall out of his pocket or duffle bag or backpack on the way, or that might be discovered if he were stopped for any traffic violation, tail light not working or something like that? People have been caught that way.

    Sure, his having the uncanny ability to imitate PR so well is pretty far-out, but he's a unique kind of perp, or he'd have been caught. PR having the uncanny ability to think of such a note just because she was desperate is just as iffy, it seems to me.

    I always enjoy Rupert's posts, the consideration of both sides. And the replies after.

    I'm still fishing for a reaction about a perp wanting to "be" JonBenet, or PR, as I guess all actors in theater have to be while onstage. His sleeping in JonBenet's bed and trying to replace JBR in Patsy's affections during the Grand Jury which was evidently making him nervous really brings home to me that's what he was doing, trying to get attention that rightfully belonged to someone else, without revealing his actual ID. Picture it; certainly could and evidently did happen. Many say they haven't read the Patricia Letters, probably available at ACandyRose.

    FWIW, I just "may" personally know someone like I'm describing, so please consider it. During the many re-airings of assassinations documentaries, they've said all kinds of nuts infiltrate gov't agencies. I think that makes sense. "Hence" his bragging about being able to monitor and study this family, especially Patsy. Maybe wanted to be a woman??? And/Or a little girl star like JonBenet? Was he obsessed with what might have been if he'd really been born female? And even the omission of the wife/mother in the RN is very familiar to me, a fairly recent phenomenon in some church bulletin mailings. He flatters men, especially leaders, but may behind their backs accuse and get them assassinated, I gather from Holy Writ predictions about the abuse of technology, he's obviously so proud of.

    This Nov. 22nd will be another anniversary of the JFK assassination, when we sometimes get something new in the documentaries.

    One thing I've never heard emphasized, all the assassination victims were accused posthumously of sexual affairs. JFK had such a bad back, he couldn't duck down in that parade car because of his back brace, and the recordings of Dr. King, "monitoring" him, could have been made in his own home with his own wife but we're supposed to believe it was adultery. Same m.o.'s and number of distractions as in the JonBenet case?

    Some of the books said there were 2 to 4 Oswalds. We have at least that many potential suspects about the Ramsey case. Just one of my rambling open-minded opinions. I'll bet you there's some connection.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Solace
    There is no intruder. It was Patsy.

    IMO.
    This deserves to be repeated because no trueer words have been spoken.


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