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    Thumbs down Michael "Kramer" Richards - a racist?

    http://www.tmz.com/2006/11/20/kramer...aught-on-tape/

    I'm a Seinfeld fan, but this will taint the show forever. What a shame...

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    wow, it sounds like he kind of lost it.

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    Wow. That's pretty creepy to watch.

    The N word is so powerful. I recently came off of a jury trial that involved lots of wire taps of the Defendant's phone conversations. They used the N word constantly and affectionately in their private discussions with each other - they were all black men and close friends.

    At one point during deliberations, we were reading transcripts of some of the phone conversations and I had to read aloud in front of other black jurors these conversations with the N word in it. I felt very uncomfortable even though I knew my fellow jurors knew I was just reading someone else's words.

    I can't remember the first time I heard that word, but I knew right away that it was vile.

    I don't have any problem that many black people today have taken it back over for themselves - I find that empowering.

    But certainly, in this video, it was crazy and unnecessary. I think he was flustered by being heckled and wanted to hurt his hecklers - which most stand-up comedians abhor. I don't know if he is a racist or was just going for the jugular and thought it might turn out funny. Either way, it's not a choice I would have made.
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    WoW, is all I can really say at the moment.

    I read lots of the commments too some of those were pretty scary to read.

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    Well, I'm a Seinfeld nut, or used to be--we don't watch the reruns anymore too much---Well, this looks more inexcusable behavior, more racist comments from another rich entertainer--He needs to publicly apologize and then enter rehab...any kind of rehab lol

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    The jerks a racist pig. I don't have patience for this nonsense.

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    I was happyto see so many people walking out. Guess that will be the end of Richard's career.

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    Totally inexcusable. Period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacobi
    http://www.tmz.com/2006/11/20/kramer...aught-on-tape/

    I'm a Seinfeld fan, but this will taint the show forever. What a shame...

    i agree 100%. mr. izzyB and i adored this show, but how can we ever look at it in the same light knowing what we now know about michael richards?

    jerry seinfeld is to be on one of the late night talk shows tonite, monday...maybe letterman??? i wonder if this will be mentioned?!

    what a complete shame. if this is really how he feels i hope show biz is through with him b/c he contributes nothing to society with that type of attitude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by izzyB
    i agree 100%. mr. izzyB and i adored this show, but how can we ever look at it in the same light knowing what we now know about michael richards?

    jerry seinfeld is to be on one of the late night talk shows tonite, monday...maybe letterman??? i wonder if this will be mentioned?!

    what a complete shame. if this is really how he feels i hope show biz is through with him b/c he contributes nothing to society with that type of attitude.
    Jerry Seinfeld has already responded:

    http://www.tmz.com/2006/11/20/seinfe...irade-im-sick/
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    I never did like "that show" anyways......

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    I can't get the video to load. Maybe that's a good thing.

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    He used very poor judgement in trying to shut a heckler up, certainly.

    HOWEVER - The heckler can't talk anymore - he shouted racist names back.

    If you're going to claim to be offended by a behavior, you can't do it yourself.


    That said: Everyone ELSE in the audience that was TRUELY offended - who simply got up and left - who never heckled to begin with - I feel terrible for them and their evening being ruined.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GlitchWizard
    He used very poor judgement in trying to shut a heckler up, certainly.

    HOWEVER - The heckler can't talk anymore - he shouted racist names back.

    If you're going to claim to be offended by a behavior, you can't do it yourself.


    That said: Everyone ELSE in the audience that was TRUELY offended - who simply got up and left - who never heckled to begin with - I feel terrible for them and their evening being ruined.
    Amen!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mabel
    I can't get the video to load. Maybe that's a good thing.
    Short version:

    Heckler being rude.
    Kramer guy over reacting - handles it poorly.
    He tries to impromptu make it funny by handling it even more poorly.
    Uses the "N" word. The heckler continues to heckle. Becomes a shouting match between the two. The "N" word is spouted, the word "Cracker" is spouted, and then the heckler starts to use the "F" word. Back and Forth - just like the fights you saw back in high school, only without the shoulder to shoulder circling.

    It's clear the show is over. Some people leave. Kramer dude leaves.
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