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    The Sands Casino



    Interesting article by The NY Post dated November 25, 2006 concerning Tracy Ann Roberts.
    http://nypost.com/2006/11/25/atl-cit...angler-victim/

    'Friends of the second victim who saw her autopsy photo, said they are convinced she is a 23-year-old Philadelphia native, who was last seen by her roommate Oct 27.

    “She was real pretty,” said Charles Coles, 40, who lived with the woman in an Atlantic City flophouse at the time she vanished. “Her and Kim were friends.”'


    Later:

    'The last time Coles saw the women was on Oct. 27 – which was a big night in the gambling mecca because the Sands casino was shutting down. He said that night, a trick went bad for the sex-world newcomer and she wound up going to an emergency room after a beating.

    “A john punched her in the throat,” Coles said. “She was spitting blood and she had just gotten out [when he saw her]. She looked OK.”'


    First off I'm going have to call Mr. Coles on his recollection of dates. In every report I've read it was Nov 8th that Ms. Roberts checked into a hospital so the Oct. 27th date doesn't cut it. Also The Sands Casino closed on Sat. Nov 11th and yes, I agree, it was a big deal that it was closing.

    To a lot of folks, myself included, The Sands was their favorite casino. It was grungy enough but had a certain Rat Pack feel about it. The bartenders wore purple pork-pie hats and sometimes did those flips with the bottles that Tom Cruise did in that movie Cocktail. So it was sad when it was announced that it was closing.

    Rumor had it that the slots were paying off big because they had to move the machines and that the dealers didn't care how much anyone won because they were headed to the unemployment line anyway. Rumors of course but it would be a lot more crowded than usual.

    So, if the time-line is adjusted to fit known facts I could see Mr. Coles meeting up with Ms. Roberts on Friday the 10th of Nov. If she disappeared on that day it might be a bit longer than the Medical Examiners determination of her being in the ditch 'up to a week'. If it was that day then it would be 10 days.

    As always, just my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cynical_1 View Post


    Interesting article by The NY Post dated November 25, 2006 concerning Tracy Ann Roberts.
    http://nypost.com/2006/11/25/atl-cit...angler-victim/

    'Friends of the second victim who saw her autopsy photo, said they are convinced she is a 23-year-old Philadelphia native, who was last seen by her roommate Oct 27.

    “She was real pretty,” said Charles Coles, 40, who lived with the woman in an Atlantic City flophouse at the time she vanished. “Her and Kim were friends.”'


    Later:

    'The last time Coles saw the women was on Oct. 27 – which was a big night in the gambling mecca because the Sands casino was shutting down. He said that night, a trick went bad for the sex-world newcomer and she wound up going to an emergency room after a beating.

    “A john punched her in the throat,” Coles said. “She was spitting blood and she had just gotten out [when he saw her]. She looked OK.”'


    First off I'm going have to call Mr. Coles on his recollection of dates. In every report I've read it was Nov 8th that Ms. Roberts checked into a hospital so the Oct. 27th date doesn't cut it. Also The Sands Casino closed on Sat. Nov 11th and yes, I agree, it was a big deal that it was closing.

    To a lot of folks, myself included, The Sands was their favorite casino. It was grungy enough but had a certain Rat Pack feel about it. The bartenders wore purple pork-pie hats and sometimes did those flips with the bottles that Tom Cruise did in that movie Cocktail. So it was sad when it was announced that it was closing.

    Rumor had it that the slots were paying off big because they had to move the machines and that the dealers didn't care how much anyone won because they were headed to the unemployment line anyway. Rumors of course but it would be a lot more crowded than usual.

    So, if the time-line is adjusted to fit known facts I could see Mr. Coles meeting up with Ms. Roberts on Friday the 10th of Nov. If she disappeared on that day it might be a bit longer than the Medical Examiners determination of her being in the ditch 'up to a week'. If it was that day then it would be 10 days.

    As always, just my opinion.
    Wait, who is charles coles?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kellyd View Post
    Wait, who is charles coles?

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    I see now... I went back... very interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kellyd View Post
    I see now... I went back... very interesting.

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    Does LE know he's Muslim?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kellyd View Post
    I see now... I went back... very interesting.

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    Sometime I get a bit long-winded so I apologize for any confusion. My last post about the Sands casino was not so much an effort to point a finger at Charles Coles but more to place Tracy Ann Roberts at the Sands on a Friday.

    Why I think that may be relevant is that earlier today I responded to a post by Muttley about delivery trucks and the soup kitchen. Somehow I think the soup kitchen is a focal point because it's mentioned in a lot of reports that I've read. It also might fit a religious fanatic type of involvement.

    Anyhow, I made reference to a Food Bank that possibly makes daily deliveries to the kitchen from The Trump Taj Mahal. If it is the one I pointed out then it also happens to make deliveries from The Sands Casino on Fridays. Hopefully this will clarify a bit and again I apologize for any confusion.

    I do think that Mr. Coles does know a lot more about what happened then he's ever let on about though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cynical_1 View Post
    Sometime I get a bit long-winded so I apologize for any confusion. My last post about the Sands casino was not so much an effort to point a finger at Charles Coles but more to place Tracy Ann Roberts at the Sands on a Friday.

    Why I think that may be relevant is that earlier today I responded to a post by Muttley about delivery trucks and the soup kitchen. Somehow I think the soup kitchen is a focal point because it's mentioned in a lot of reports that I've read. It also might fit a religious fanatic type of involvement.

    Anyhow, I made reference to a Food Bank that possibly makes daily deliveries to the kitchen from The Trump Taj Mahal. If it is the one I pointed out then it also happens to make deliveries from The Sands Casino on Fridays. Hopefully this will clarify a bit and again I apologize for any confusion.

    I do think that Mr. Coles does know a lot more about what happened then he's ever let on about though.
    No worries, I think I had him confused with Stallworth. I added him to my notes as I am very curious to know if LE knows he is Muslim, do you know?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kellyd View Post
    No worries, I think I had him confused with Stallworth. I added him to my notes as I am very curious to know if LE knows he is Muslim, do you know?

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    Actually I believe his full name is Charles Ismail Coles and I do believe that authorities questioned him because he is Muslim. That and his close relationship with two of the victims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cynical_1 View Post
    Actually I believe his full name is Charles Ismail Coles and I do believe that authorities questioned him because he is Muslim. That and his close relationship with two of the victims.
    Yes, he goes by just ismail coles on FB, last post was 10/9/16, he has an older page using charles ismail coles (2013).

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    You must've posted at the same exact time I sent that link... Lol

    Anyway, at least we're all on the same page

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rachel1 View Post
    You must've posted at the same exact time I sent that link... Lol

    Anyway, at least we're all on the same page
    Thank goodness we are!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kellyd View Post
    Yes, he goes by just ismail coles on FB, last post was 10/9/16, he has an older page using charles ismail coles (2013).

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    And goes by Ish on yet a third.

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