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  1. #31
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    All of the women found in the ditch were blonde apparentley.

    http://www.nbc10.com/news/10392137/detail.html

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    I read on CNN that 3 of the 4 were blonde. This has to be a serial killer and the ditch is his dumping ground. He must be very active for so many bodies to be found and not skeletal remains.

    Also they were placed without shoes and facing in the same direction. Very odd. Has to be the work of one killer IMO. As to the direction they were facing I wonder if he wanted them facing away from where he lives, maybe he lives nearby.

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    The Lineup had a great spot on this case tonight and I learned a few things

    In the Christian, Islamic and Moslem faiths they traditionally bury their dead with faces to the east.

    They don't think the no shoes or socks is involved in his reason for killing - Dern, I forgot the word she used. It began with an R. Anyway, they are still performig rape kit tests on these ladies, but they are badly decomposed having been killed over the last 2 months. So far there is no evidence of sexual involvement on his part, like cutting of breasts or her vaginal area as there often is she said.

    They think he is creating his own burial ground out of a religious fantasy. Wild, isn't it? Positioning the heads and then with the feet, it could be a reverence of some sort as many religions take off their shoes before entering a place of worship.

    I heard one was killed 2 months ago, then another one month ago, one 2 weeks and the last a few days up to a week. Looks like he is accelerating in his passion to fill that graveyard.

    Here is the coup d'etat: A prostitute contacted LE saying she was sure she had spent 12 hours with this guy recently, and says she knows who he is. He is white, scruffy with a pot belly, late 40's, doesn't want sex, only to be held. Now they are wildly searching other murders to see if this religious/no sex just holding matches any other crimes, as he might have moved around a bit.

    There is one thing that was said at the very end, They agreed he will kill again. Just a matter of when, right?


    Scandi

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    It's interesting too that even though they all were bare footed they all had their clothes on. You would think that if they had been raped he wouldn't have bothered to dress them.

    Odd that no one found them sooner as they were behind a motel. I guess no one goes behind the motels.

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    Thanks Scandi, I am closely following this one because of the similarities with the ones committed in Harford County and yes you know me I already sent LE info. The suspect they are holding in those cases seems like very flimsy evidence and more of a tactic to quiet that community. As I've said I'm from that area and plenty of upper class residents would be screaming over that, my brother lives up there. Interesting part to me is the area in NJ that was described in this case sounds exactly like the route 40 area that those victims in Harford county frequented for drugs and prostitution. I asked my brother about it and one valuable piece of info he gave me was that where the bodies were placed the maniac had to know the area well.

    I picked up on the heads facing east right away because they made it a point to report it but also knew it a had religious meaning and a poster here was kind enough to see it and pm'd me and explained in more detail and also the bare feet are significant to that aspect as well. I do not remember which case it was, probably read it on ctv's crime library but there was one that I recall that washed the victim's feet as part of their ritual.

    At any rate Scandi you sure gave me info that falls in line with something else that had struck me as a possibility from what little info has been released about the perp.

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    Did anyone recall seeing something about the identified victim being seen getting into a vehicle w/ out of state plates by the person who was last known to see her (a dinner owner in the early morning hours ---he saw her get in the car and she was wearing the same clothing she was found in)?

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    No I didn't see that lilsister, did you? TV, newspaper?

    I think if what the prostitute said about the hugging guy being a possibility then I'm more inclined to think the barefeet are more indicative of someone with a foot fetish. I'd bet he's known to many but moves around.

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    I did see it but i am killing myself trying to remember exactly, but it was definately on TV...maybe Foxnews...i will check...

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    Quote Originally Posted by strach304
    No I didn't see that lilsister, did you? TV, newspaper?

    I think if what the prostitute said about the hugging guy being a possibility then I'm more inclined to think the barefeet are more indicative of someone with a foot fetish. I'd bet he's known to many but moves around.
    re: no shoes...yeah like he keeps them as trophies of the crimes he has committed...major serial killer trait...

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    Lilsister, you really have me wondering if they were Md. or PA. tags the man at the diner may have seen. I had it mapped out as two hours drive time in-between the site at NJ and the one in Md. plus the infamous rt. 40 being a key area involved with both cases and then if you look at the map 95 would be the quickest and makes me wonder about the Philly area. The timing of Md. arresting a suspect and TOD that's reported for these victims are too coincidental to ignore. The first two in MD. found were found just feet apart and different TOD so dumped same place but different times. After they were discovered the next two same thing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by scandi
    The Lineup had a great spot on this case tonight and I learned a few things

    In the Christian, Islamic and Moslem faiths they traditionally bury their dead with faces to the east.

    They don't think the no shoes or socks is involved in his reason for killing - Dern, I forgot the word she used. It began with an R. Anyway, they are still performig rape kit tests on these ladies, but they are badly decomposed having been killed over the last 2 months. So far there is no evidence of sexual involvement on his part, like cutting of breasts or her vaginal area as there often is she said.

    They think he is creating his own burial ground out of a religious fantasy. Wild, isn't it? Positioning the heads and then with the feet, it could be a reverence of some sort as many religions take off their shoes before entering a place of worship.

    Scandi
    Hi scandi,

    As you know I live in Middle East - I posted here earlier - and stopping short for fear of a racial debate, decided to contact this police dept right after that post - yes from out here! Asked no questions, simply provide insight into Muslim custom & burials to see if this might be worth looking into.

    There's a reason the heads face east.

    Also, Muslims bury the dead within 24 hours and usually close to one of the 5 prayer times throughout the day. They're also not "bound", per se - but wrapped in a humble shroud. Pics on TV covering the Iraq war, Lebanon crisis, Afghanistan, etc - show bodies wrapped, not bound, in these plain, bland, humble old cloths. The heads are turned to the east as they are laid on the ground, not before. Shoes come off before prayer, outside Mosques and bodies dont have them...

    I mentioned gambling (Casinos), adultery & prostitution (plus drugs, alcohol) are strictly forbidden in (staunch) Islam. Some countries still give the death sentence for these offences. (Recall the plight of the Nigerian woman a few years ago that fell preg out of wedlock; sentenced to be stoned to death when her baby was weaned - well ... prime example).

    The above background was well received.

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    Profile of killer

    http://www.stalkinc.com/profile.html


    S.T.A.L.K., Inc. Home Page


    Note: As new information becomes available we will update this profile!






    Atlantic City Serial Killer

    (Partial Profile of "The Eastbound Strangler")



    This lethal predator is a local male, who is very familiar with the Atlantic City area, and the disposal site of his victims. He has a very organized personality which influences his personal and everyday activities, including his work. He is very rigid and structured in his everyday life. "A place for everything and everything in its place" would be his motto. He has read (and reads) book on serial killers and he has some knowledge of crime scenes and crime investigations. He has an extreme foot fetish and has a collection of women's shoes and the shoes of his victims. He has not killed every prostitute he has come in contact with. There are prostitutes who know him for the sexual gratification he gets from their feet. He is nonsocial and likes to keep to himself. He is narcissistic (everything revolves around him), and he is also very concerned with making himself look good in all aspects. He is also extremely opinionated. If criticized or disagreed with, he would become extremely angry or agitated. Although at times, when he wants to, he can be very charming. In his pre-offense mode, he may have spoken about the sinful nature of prostitution, or he may have voiced economic concerns about prostitutes destroying Atlantic City's value or reputation. In his post-offense mode, he would says things like "They got what they deserved" or "Good riddance." He follows the news of his killings in the media. His hobbies would include art and photography, and his obsessive fantasies would compel him to search for sexually graphic and/or violent pictures in all media. He probably has a prior record of sexual or physical abuse or sexual harassment toward women. He may have recently suffered a setback in his work or in a relationship. This predator is probably detached from his father and was abused as a child. This person has also killed before these recent victims were found, and he will be compelled to continue his murderous ways in the future.


    If you have any information, please call the Atlantic City Police Department at 609-926-4051.


    Brian Thompson spoke with John Kelly of STALK, Inc which stands for Systems To Apprehend Lethal Killers. He said there are probably more victims out there already, and the killer is likely to try and strike again. Read his profile of the killer on his Web site, stalkinc.com.

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    One of the links about this story mentioned a woman who works at a nearby motel, and she said that there are lots of prostitutes in that area working and many are barefooted. I suppose this would only be in the warmer months, but the dad of one of the victims was interviewed on Katherine Krier Live today and said that as far as he knew his daughter was not a prostitute. She had attended culinary school and was working as a cook at a motel on the boardwalk.

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    http://www.nypost.com/seven/11262006...ni_gittens.htm

    At the motel, he paid her in phone cards, food and drugs.



    She said he appeared to be in his late 40s, husky, about 5-foot-8 with a beer belly, dark hair, a baseball cap and "cheap, thick sunglasses."

    I wonder if he didn't let them have their shoes so they couldn't run from him.

    Hmmmm I find it interesting he paid in Phone cards.
    As if he may not need them , I wonder why?
    Why not just money. Unless he lost his job recently.

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    Hmmmmm, I was thinking he was a Moslem, but since they don't do drugs and he offered drugs to this Kim, that settles that, right?

    I would think by now they have pinpointed him with all they know about him, and are watching him. If another girl is missing then maybe he has a new grounds for burying. I heard Pat Brown, profiler, say about the Baseline killer that because there was a gap in the killings in Pheonix she thought the killer had moved because of learning about the case in the media. This guy might have done the same and he might not have much money to work with.

    Scandi

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