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    Bacharach's Daughter Commits Suicide

    Oh this makes me so sad - he's a music great for all times.

    Evidently, Nikki had Asperger's Disorder - poor Angie, too. Nikki was 44.

    http://www.music.msn.com/music/artic...46904&GT1=7702

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    Aspergers Syndrome--reading about it---AS symptoms include extensive logical non-emotional thinking such as Spock from Star Trek--Socially and emotionally inappropriate behavior with interpersonal interactions, "Thinking out loud", lack of empathy for other human beings,emotionless,as known as "mind blindness"--Clumsy uncoordinated motor movments---Cause is unknown---Unlike Autism, not diagnosed il puberty--Also AS sufferers are of normal or above average in intelligence----those are some symptoms--Poor Nikki,I used to remember Angie Dickinson talking proudly about her a long time ago--Nikki just couldn't take living with this condition it seems,its a tragedy--Feel sorry for both parents--Bacharach is a musical genius,truly gifted songwriter,world famous and yet he had daughter that suffered--such a terrible thing for parents to lose their children---

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    Oh, it makes me sick - surely there was some pharmaceutical that would helP? Maybe she shouldn't have lived alone.

    I always get this mixed up with Tourette's syndrome, in which they can act really weird and suddenly strike out and be violent. I don't really understand them well, except my daughter did work with an autistic child for a while, but I never have really.

    I just feel so sad when people are "lost", and can't get help, especially as wealthy as they must have been - Maybe it was hard living with a "perfect" father? I suspect so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Hamilton
    Aspergers Syndrome--reading about it---AS symptoms include extensive logical non-emotional thinking such as Spock from Star Trek--Socially and emotionally inappropriate behavior with interpersonal interactions, "Thinking out loud", lack of empathy for other human beings,emotionless,as known as "mind blindness"--Clumsy uncoordinated motor movments---Cause is unknown---Unlike Autism, not diagnosed il puberty--Also AS sufferers are of normal or above average in intelligence----those are some symptoms--Poor Nikki,I used to remember Angie Dickinson talking proudly about her a long time ago--Nikki just couldn't take living with this condition it seems,its a tragedy--Feel sorry for both parents--Bacharach is a musical genius,truly gifted songwriter,world famous and yet he had daughter that suffered--such a terrible thing for parents to lose their children---
    My nephew has Aspergers. He does NOT have a lack of empathy nor is he emotionless. They are socially inappropriate, but they are aware of it. He is very aware that he is different and tries very hard to "fit in". What they lack is an ability to access the social situation, they miss social cues and have a hard time with sublities. They need things explained.
    Intelligence is not an issue, which can make it more difficult, because they want to be like everybody else.
    There is a great movie called "Mozart and the whale" about a man with AS and his life.

    I am truly sorry to hear about this. My thoughts are with her family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by csds703
    My nephew has Aspergers. He does NOT have a lack of empathy nor is he emotionless. They are socially inappropriate, but they are aware of it. He is very aware that he is different and tries very hard to "fit in". What they lack is an ability to access the social situation, they miss social cues and have a hard time with sublities. They need things explained.
    Intelligence is not an issue, which can make it more difficult, because they want to be like everybody else.
    There is a great movie called "Mozart and the whale" about a man with AS and his life.

    I am truly sorry to hear about this. My thoughts are with her family.
    Just to add to that csds... when you look up a syndrome- any - and trust me there are plenty out there - they will cite anything that has EVER been recorded or documented from those who live with and address these unfortunate conditions - it does not mean, and in fact is rarely the case that any one person diagnosed with any given condition will exhibit all recorded behaviours. I was comforted with this knowledge when my son was diagnosed with his syndrome and it has stuck with me - so thought I would share with everyone who is not so familiar with this information.

    That said though, social cues and boundaries are a very difficult aspect of many and most syndromes that I know of and that in itself is what makes our special kids stand out from the norm...very hard to demonstrate to them the difference too- even when they so longingly want to just "fit in" and be accepted.

    JMHO....thanks for listening.

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    csd703, that's interesting information about your nephew--internet says most people with AS are able to live a relatively normal life--Sadly, Nikki wasn't one of them

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    I know that Nikki was a much wanted child. I happened to have the same gyn/ob doctor that Angie Dickinson had. And there was a letter of thanks to him from them on his wall, hanging proudly.

    This is very sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mimi
    Just to add to that csds... when you look up a syndrome- any - and trust me there are plenty out there - they will cite anything that has EVER been recorded or documented from those who live with and address these unfortunate conditions - it does not mean, and in fact is rarely the case that any one person diagnosed with any given condition will exhibit all recorded behaviours. I was comforted with this knowledge when my son was diagnosed with his syndrome and it has stuck with me - so thought I would share with everyone who is not so familiar with this information.

    That said though, social cues and boundaries are a very difficult aspect of many and most syndromes that I know of and that in itself is what makes our special kids stand out from the norm...very hard to demonstrate to them the difference too- even when they so longingly want to just "fit in" and be accepted.

    JMHO....thanks for listening.
    Mimi, thanks so much for posting. My prayer's will always be with your family. I am positive that there many good times......and also know that you love him dearly. I agree completely about symptoms of many syndromes. They are all different and there all degrees.

    xxxxxxxxxoooooo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mimi
    Just to add to that csds... when you look up a syndrome- any - and trust me there are plenty out there - they will cite anything that has EVER been recorded or documented from those who live with and address these unfortunate conditions - it does not mean, and in fact is rarely the case that any one person diagnosed with any given condition will exhibit all recorded behaviours. I was comforted with this knowledge when my son was diagnosed with his syndrome and it has stuck with me - so thought I would share with everyone who is not so familiar with this information.

    That said though, social cues and boundaries are a very difficult aspect of many and most syndromes that I know of and that in itself is what makes our special kids stand out from the norm...very hard to demonstrate to them the difference too- even when they so longingly want to just "fit in" and be accepted.

    JMHO....thanks for listening.
    I feel compelled to add here that autism and aspergers are typically defined by laymen who really do not understand.
    There was a stigma associated for many many years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Love_Mama
    Mimi, thanks so much for posting. My prayer's will always be with your family. I am positive that there many good times......and also know that you love him dearly. I agree completely about symptoms of many syndromes. They are all different and there all degrees.

    xxxxxxxxxoooooo
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    Thanks Love Mama and yes I do love him dearly and wouldn't know him any other way-he's simply "my boy" and that is enough.


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    The sad part about this is that alot of these children suffer from anxiety and depression from the pressure to be like everyone else. This is truly a tragedy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by csds703
    The sad part about this is that alot of these children suffer from anxiety and depression from the pressure to be like everyone else. This is truly a tragedy.
    I agree csds and it scares the witts out of me and in this case, breaks my heart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mimi
    I agree csds and it scares the witts out of me and in this case, breaks my heart.
    Mimi

    Don't you worry, your son will be fine because you have educated yourself and will help him cope.
    There is more information and better understanding now than when this woman was growing up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by csds703
    Mimi

    Don't you worry, your son will be fine because you have educated yourself and will help him cope.
    There is more information and better understanding now than when this woman was growing up.
    Thanks for your vote of confidence csds- I appreciate it!

    Just to clarify, my son has Williams Syndrome- not Aspergers but my point earlier, which I still stand by is that many with syndromes- no matter what it is feel left out and just want to be one of the gang, you know?

    It honestly breaks my heart when my son (he is 13) calls a "buddy" to come over but they are "too busy"- which I don't blame them for, as they don't understand and shouldn't be expected to either, at this age- but nevertheless, it breaks my heart when his heart is broken... when I pray, I actually pray for a close friend for Drew... it would mean more than a million dollars in the bank to he and us, truly, but seems as far off the mark as winning the lottery is. The hardest part is that his sister who is ten, is perfectly functioning and has oodles of friends, birthday parties, figure skates five times a week etc... and is always on the go and he gets upset wondering why he isn't too.... bottom line is, it is very hard on the social scene for him, as was for this girl and many others who have "differences"... taking care of him physically and for the future is a worry, yes but that can be handled on our end... making him "fit" into society and be accepted by others, equally and finding him a "best friend", unfortunately is out of our control...and that is where my sadness and fear comes in.

    Thanks for all your input...and please don't think we are "down in the dumps" or anything like that- life is good, truly- life just has a few more worries and ups and downs than some others, when you have a special guy like mine, but hey, there are perks too- but that is another thread in itself!

    Thanks for sharing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mimi
    Thanks for your vote of confidence csds- I appreciate it!

    Just to clarify, my son has Williams Syndrome- not Aspergers but my point earlier, which I still stand by is that many with syndromes- no matter what it is feel left out and just want to be one of the gang, you know?

    It honestly breaks my heart when my son (he is 13) calls a "buddy" to come over but they are "too busy"- which I don't blame them for, as they don't understand and shouldn't be expected to either, at this age- but nevertheless, it breaks my heart when his heart is broken... when I pray, I actually pray for a close friend for Drew... it would mean more than a million dollars in the bank to he and us, truly, but seems as far off the mark as winning the lottery is. The hardest part is that his sister who is ten, is perfectly functioning and has oodles of friends, birthday parties, figure skates five times a week etc... and is always on the go and he gets upset wondering why he isn't too.... bottom line is, it is very hard on the social scene for him, as was for this girl and many others who have "differences"... taking care of him physically and for the future is a worry, yes but that can be handled on our end... making him "fit" into society and be accepted by others, equally and finding him a "best friend", unfortunately is out of our control...and that is where my sadness and fear comes in.

    Thanks for all your input...and please don't think we are "down in the dumps" or anything like that- life is good, truly- life just has a few more worries and ups and downs than some others, when you have a special guy like mine, but hey, there are perks too- but that is another thread in itself!

    Thanks for sharing!
    My nephew is 15. He also had a hard time finding friends. I remember having this exact conversation with my sister plenty of times.
    She did some research and was able to find a social group of kids his age with special needs. It is a support group as well. He also participates on a swim team.
    Maybe you can find things like that in your area.
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